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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
January 14 2015 01:40 GMT
#7841
On January 14 2015 06:14 Alabasern wrote:
With the recent overhaul to improve quality of life for players Blizzard should allow players to purchase items from the garrison Trading Post in quantity and not click by click, same goes for the Raw Beast Hide Scraps ~ 20 clicks for each stack of 200...

I know Blizzard wants me to farm in Nagrand and skin to obtain complete Raw Beast Hide one to two at a time, but fuck it I farm quicker out in the Shivering Trench outside the Garrison.

Am i missing something? You can buy in bulk by shiftclicking.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 14 2015 05:45 GMT
#7842
Yeh demo is an absolute joke now, lol.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 08:47:33
January 14 2015 08:47 GMT
#7843
Rofl god forbid warlocks don't completely shit on every other dps for once. That just couldn't stand. DPS of an arcane mage with better aoe and mobility, weeeee
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
January 14 2015 09:41 GMT
#7844
Legacy
Blackrock Caverns
Rom'ogg Bonecrusher's Skullcracker ability should now correctly deal damage to Angered Earth elementals, allowing the achievement Crushing Bones and Cracking Skulls to be completed.

For real this time? Cata dungeon meta achievement thing, here I come!
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
January 14 2015 10:08 GMT
#7845
On January 14 2015 10:40 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 06:14 Alabasern wrote:
With the recent overhaul to improve quality of life for players Blizzard should allow players to purchase items from the garrison Trading Post in quantity and not click by click, same goes for the Raw Beast Hide Scraps ~ 20 clicks for each stack of 200...

I know Blizzard wants me to farm in Nagrand and skin to obtain complete Raw Beast Hide one to two at a time, but fuck it I farm quicker out in the Shivering Trench outside the Garrison.

Am i missing something? You can buy in bulk by shiftclicking.


I tried to shift+left or right click with both addons on and off, and still can't buy in bulk with the normal shift-click I use elsewhere, idk anymore but it's driving me to use addons to manage this minor annoyance.
Support your esport!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 11:25:03
January 14 2015 11:24 GMT
#7846
On January 14 2015 02:45 Teoita wrote:
Holy shit i just witnessed a wipe in LFR. Fuck yeah imperator!


I wiped on Twins LFR to enrage timer (or hit enrage timer and almost wiped maybe, i can't remember if we all died or not :D)

Yea this balancing is a bit of a rollercoaster, i don't remember how damage splits are but that's a huge buff single target. I mean, 28% to two main abilities, even if they do pretty low %'s of your total damage (they're no Obliterates, but they probably do a fair amount of damage considering you're hitting them most gcd's) it'd be big. I need to see how frost performs with their buffs, too
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
January 14 2015 11:52 GMT
#7847
What frost buffs? Those are unholy strikes only aren't they?
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 12:41:31
January 14 2015 12:24 GMT
#7848
On January 14 2015 20:52 Teoita wrote:
What frost buffs? Those are unholy strikes only aren't they?


The hotfixes from yesterday


The Haste stat is now 11.1% more effective. For example, characters at level 100 now receive a 1% increase per 90 Haste (up from 1% per 100 Haste).

Classes

Death Knight
General
Blood Boil’s damage has been reduced by 33.3%.
Frost
Icy Talons now causes the Death Knight to gain 20% (up from 5%) more of the Haste stat from all sources.


Haste is now 11.1% more effective for unholy and 27% more effective for frost, relative to pre-hotfix, if i'm doing the math correctly. I don't know a good source for weights, but Noxxic (whatever way they calculate them) says that makes Haste by far the best stat for 2h frost, while previously it was the third best secondary stat (@666 ilvl).

I didn't expect blizzard to be so aggressive with class changes, i thought maybe on the next raid tier release (t18) unholy AOE would be brought down some but they just (probably, not sure how much of a nerf it is) wrecked it 1/3'rd of the way into tier 17 and increased DK single target DPS
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
January 14 2015 12:49 GMT
#7849
Good thing Ive been stacking Haste like mad..
Stop procrastinating
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
January 14 2015 13:50 GMT
#7850
On January 14 2015 21:24 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 20:52 Teoita wrote:
What frost buffs? Those are unholy strikes only aren't they?


The hotfixes from yesterday

Show nested quote +

The Haste stat is now 11.1% more effective. For example, characters at level 100 now receive a 1% increase per 90 Haste (up from 1% per 100 Haste).

Classes

Death Knight
General
Blood Boil’s damage has been reduced by 33.3%.
Frost
Icy Talons now causes the Death Knight to gain 20% (up from 5%) more of the Haste stat from all sources.


Haste is now 11.1% more effective for unholy and 27% more effective for frost, relative to pre-hotfix, if i'm doing the math correctly. I don't know a good source for weights, but Noxxic (whatever way they calculate them) says that makes Haste by far the best stat for 2h frost, while previously it was the third best secondary stat (@666 ilvl).

I didn't expect blizzard to be so aggressive with class changes, i thought maybe on the next raid tier release (t18) unholy AOE would be brought down some but they just (probably, not sure how much of a nerf it is) wrecked it 1/3'rd of the way into tier 17 and increased DK single target DPS


Yes it's your best stat, not by far, noxxic is still bad don't use it. Use this instead

Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 14:29:01
January 14 2015 14:19 GMT
#7851
^Thanks. The singletarget fixes are right on point but if it's worse for AOE, i think i can unspec Unholy as a DPS DK (:

Most of it's not loading, but some good info. Guess i'm gonna try to get rid of all of my Mastery ASAP (if i was trying to get world class dps logs, i would be quite annoyed with the extent of these changes 1/3'rd into tier o.~) into haste > multistrike > versatility. Vers doesn't seem as bad as i remembered it, especially at higher gear levels (660-690 as opposed to 630)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 14 2015 14:24 GMT
#7852
On January 14 2015 21:49 padfoota wrote:
Good thing Ive been stacking Haste like mad..

I love being a disc priest who has no use for the stat :p
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 14 2015 14:49 GMT
#7853
But it is still "ok" for you Drazerk because you can just save up some holy gear where Haste Multistrike is bis stats. But yeah i know what you mean xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 14 2015 15:25 GMT
#7854
Always funny to do LFR and suddenly there's a guy doing 32k single target dps on kargath out of nowhere in the group.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 14 2015 15:27 GMT
#7855
On January 15 2015 00:25 Noocta wrote:
Always funny to do LFR and suddenly there's a guy doing 32k single target dps on kargath out of nowhere in the group.

LFR is good gold
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
January 14 2015 16:05 GMT
#7856
My guess is today lots of decently geared people are running LFR because they are only a few stones away from getting the ring, and want to complete the quest before raid time
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 17:12:08
January 14 2015 16:31 GMT
#7857
On January 15 2015 01:05 Teoita wrote:
My guess is today lots of decently geared people are running LFR because they are only a few stones away from getting the ring, and want to complete the quest before raid time


I did it today for ring, i was hitting those 30k numbers easily even though some from my guild can do 1.5x my damage~ Then again some stuff was dieing VERY fast (1m 20s butcher)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Azuzu
Profile Joined August 2010
United States340 Posts
January 14 2015 17:38 GMT
#7858
On January 14 2015 21:24 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 20:52 Teoita wrote:
What frost buffs? Those are unholy strikes only aren't they?


The hotfixes from yesterday

Show nested quote +

The Haste stat is now 11.1% more effective. For example, characters at level 100 now receive a 1% increase per 90 Haste (up from 1% per 100 Haste).

Classes

Death Knight
General
Blood Boil’s damage has been reduced by 33.3%.
Frost
Icy Talons now causes the Death Knight to gain 20% (up from 5%) more of the Haste stat from all sources.


Haste is now 11.1% more effective for unholy and 27% more effective for frost, relative to pre-hotfix, if i'm doing the math correctly. I don't know a good source for weights, but Noxxic (whatever way they calculate them) says that makes Haste by far the best stat for 2h frost, while previously it was the third best secondary stat (@666 ilvl).

I didn't expect blizzard to be so aggressive with class changes, i thought maybe on the next raid tier release (t18) unholy AOE would be brought down some but they just (probably, not sure how much of a nerf it is) wrecked it 1/3'rd of the way into tier 17 and increased DK single target DPS


This might sound crazy but is it better to be in unholy stance as frost 2h now? It seemed like I got a very good butcher parse (for me at least) using it and I at least didn't seem to lose anything on imp. The increased cost on frost strike doesn't seem so bad given runic conversion is per runic power spent so you can actually dump runic power faster. Of course, you're also losing the 20% generation bonus but with the extra haste you should be generating more as well. Also, the runspeed bonus is nice for small speed boosts when stance switching doesn't make sense.

Also: thanks for the 2h frost DPS tips a month and 50 pages ago! (It's in spoilers on page 341 I think) When you wrote that I was no where near the competency to be looking at my swing timer and strategically holding onto runes waiting for procs but I finally feel like I've been able to incorporate those into my rotations. Still haven't gotten a scabbard because it's 100k on my server.
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
January 14 2015 17:50 GMT
#7859
On January 15 2015 00:25 Noocta wrote:
Always funny to do LFR and suddenly there's a guy doing 32k single target dps on kargath out of nowhere in the group.


We went to get the last stones for the ring quest with some mates, 3 30K+ dps kill the bosses so fast god damn.
The ring is dope by the way, too bad it's a very random PPM proc like the metagem in MoP :<
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-14 18:04:40
January 14 2015 17:59 GMT
#7860
On January 15 2015 02:38 Azuzu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 21:24 Cyro wrote:
On January 14 2015 20:52 Teoita wrote:
What frost buffs? Those are unholy strikes only aren't they?


The hotfixes from yesterday


The Haste stat is now 11.1% more effective. For example, characters at level 100 now receive a 1% increase per 90 Haste (up from 1% per 100 Haste).

Classes

Death Knight
General
Blood Boil’s damage has been reduced by 33.3%.
Frost
Icy Talons now causes the Death Knight to gain 20% (up from 5%) more of the Haste stat from all sources.


Haste is now 11.1% more effective for unholy and 27% more effective for frost, relative to pre-hotfix, if i'm doing the math correctly. I don't know a good source for weights, but Noxxic (whatever way they calculate them) says that makes Haste by far the best stat for 2h frost, while previously it was the third best secondary stat (@666 ilvl).

I didn't expect blizzard to be so aggressive with class changes, i thought maybe on the next raid tier release (t18) unholy AOE would be brought down some but they just (probably, not sure how much of a nerf it is) wrecked it 1/3'rd of the way into tier 17 and increased DK single target DPS


This might sound crazy but is it better to be in unholy stance as frost 2h now? It seemed like I got a very good butcher parse (for me at least) using it and I at least didn't seem to lose anything on imp. The increased cost on frost strike doesn't seem so bad given runic conversion is per runic power spent so you can actually dump runic power faster. Of course, you're also losing the 20% generation bonus but with the extra haste you should be generating more as well. Also, the runspeed bonus is nice for small speed boosts when stance switching doesn't make sense.

Also: thanks for the 2h frost DPS tips a month and 50 pages ago! (It's in spoilers on page 341 I think) When you wrote that I was no where near the competency to be looking at my swing timer and strategically holding onto runes waiting for procs but I finally feel like I've been able to incorporate those into my rotations. Still haven't gotten a scabbard because it's 100k on my server.


I'm.. not actually sure, but if it's even close it'd be worth using for the movement speed sometime. I think that google docs link above had a comparison, but it wouldn't load because there was too many people looking at it(?)

will look into that and try out some stuff! np~ i will post a pic of how my swing timer is set up but i think i want to get a dedicated addon for it, it's important and i don't like the one on Quartz that much. Get Sabbard unless you're going to spam tectus/brackenspore and use all of your bonus rolls on one of the two of those, like mass-killing them on normal to use multiple bonus rolls per week. It's too good, it adds 15 maybe even 20k damage to obliterate crits

FP vs UP is in the doc, but i'm not sure how to read it. Singletarget at least it was ~2.6% gap in favor of frost presence
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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