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Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
January 13 2015 10:54 GMT
#7801
On the topic of Ko'ragh does it make sense to make a warrior tank over a DK ? I just joined a guild and the warrior insists on tanking the adds when all I gotta do is herp de derp bloodboil spam and I get aggro by accident.

How do your guilds tank them and who? Those suppressing fields hurt a fuckton.
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 13 2015 10:55 GMT
#7802
We abuse Mocking Banner, pull them into fields with aoe death grip and kill them while Tanks use a CD.
WriterXiao8~~
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22609 Posts
January 13 2015 10:56 GMT
#7803
On January 13 2015 19:54 Advocado wrote:
On the topic of Ko'ragh does it make sense to make a warrior tank over a DK ? I just joined a guild and the warrior insists on tanking the adds when all I gotta do is herp de derp bloodboil spam and I get aggro by accident.

How do your guilds tank them and who? Those suppressing fields hurt a fuckton.

Block makes the warrior take less damage and can leap to the silence zone after gathering the adds. Tho if healers can keep you alive a DK is better, easier aoe threat and deathgrip.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 10:58:19
January 13 2015 10:58 GMT
#7804
Yeah we use a Blood DK for the adds
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 12:52:33
January 13 2015 11:18 GMT
#7805
Unholy just got DESTROYED lol, blood boil damage reduced by a factor of 1.5x while also simultaneously buffing frost again

Death Knight (Forums / Skills / Talent Calculator)

General
Blood Boil’s damage has been reduced by 33.3%.
Frost
Icy Talons now causes the Death Knight to gain 20% (up from 5%) more of the Haste stat from all sources.


Yea i can't wait for this to go live. 2h frost will still probably not beat unholy on stuff like tectus but it will take a sizeable lead on less than four simultaneous targets i think.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 12:13:59
January 13 2015 11:48 GMT
#7806
Oh god they've made aff the best lock spec again. Why do they insist on making the most boring specs the best :\

Wait, they buffed demo by a 33% multiplier for mastery? LOLOL hahaha welcome back demo overlords, I've missed you since tot rofl.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 13 2015 14:49 GMT
#7807
Is the Disc change even going to matter with the PoM change?
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
January 13 2015 14:58 GMT
#7808
Hooray for no Rogue hotfixes~!
Support your esport!
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 13 2015 15:24 GMT
#7809
On January 13 2015 20:48 bo1b wrote:
Oh god they've made aff the best lock spec again. Why do they insist on making the most boring specs the best :\

Wait, they buffed demo by a 33% multiplier for mastery? LOLOL hahaha welcome back demo overlords, I've missed you since tot rofl.

They put in a minor buff to haste, but buffed the 2 non-aff specs. Don't get where the aff hate is coming from.
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
January 13 2015 15:40 GMT
#7810
On January 14 2015 00:24 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2015 20:48 bo1b wrote:
Oh god they've made aff the best lock spec again. Why do they insist on making the most boring specs the best :\

Wait, they buffed demo by a 33% multiplier for mastery? LOLOL hahaha welcome back demo overlords, I've missed you since tot rofl.

They put in a minor buff to haste, but buffed the 2 non-aff specs. Don't get where the aff hate is coming from.


Do you mean why people say it's boring? Probably because you drain soul 70% of the time in a single-target fight
The_Masked_Shrimp
Profile Joined February 2012
425 Posts
January 13 2015 17:38 GMT
#7811
You rarely hit more than 4 spells with any class in raid anyway. What I don't get is why you even define specific specs boring when they really all are, for every class.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 13 2015 17:42 GMT
#7812
Some specs are more fun to play then others though, Combat is extremely boring wheras Subletly is quite fun and challenging to push maximum dps. CoP dotweaving when having to handle movement and multiple targets is quite fun too.
WriterXiao8~~
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 13 2015 17:42 GMT
#7813
On January 14 2015 00:40 Vallelol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2015 00:24 deth2munkies wrote:
On January 13 2015 20:48 bo1b wrote:
Oh god they've made aff the best lock spec again. Why do they insist on making the most boring specs the best :\

Wait, they buffed demo by a 33% multiplier for mastery? LOLOL hahaha welcome back demo overlords, I've missed you since tot rofl.

They put in a minor buff to haste, but buffed the 2 non-aff specs. Don't get where the aff hate is coming from.


Do you mean why people say it's boring? Probably because you drain soul 70% of the time in a single-target fight


More why he said it's the most powerful, it looks like they're going to be pretty close with those patch notes. Affliction is no more boring on single target than destro, though. Just spamming Incinerate all day waiting for that one glorious moment you get to Chaos Bolt. Demo is really the only spec with a super-involved rotation.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
January 13 2015 17:45 GMT
#7814
Holy shit i just witnessed a wipe in LFR. Fuck yeah imperator!
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
January 13 2015 17:45 GMT
#7815
Is there a detailed BIS list for Holy Paladin? I know BiS can be individualized due to stat allocation of the items on your specific gear, but is there a generic BIS list out there? I'm pretty casual these days but my guild is 3/7 Mythic and with so many options on clock/neck/ring/trinkets, I'd like to know what the ideal setup is for these slots.


http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/mugthol/Einwindir/advanced

That's my raider for WoD, I got the Kargath off hand last night, I wonder if it's better than Maw with my current stats since I'm a bit low on crit.

I'm really rusty with knowing anything mechanical. I haven't played seriously since TBC.

Any suggestions on optimization?
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
January 13 2015 17:47 GMT
#7816
Pretty sure you want whatever has spirit in those slots
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 17:57:30
January 13 2015 17:56 GMT
#7817
That's what I thought. There is also a nice article on some healing blog about spirit being = if not > than int in some scenarios. I see a lot of the top raiders without spirit on some of those slots though so I get curious. I'm not sure if it's because a lack of drops or personal optimization or what. Oh well, for now, I'll just keep doing higher ilvl = better. ^_^

I have a 670 spirit ring but I can't imagine it's better than the 691 non spirit ring. I guess I could run some sim crafts with different gear sets.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 13 2015 18:06 GMT
#7818
Its probably like , get x effective spirit then x is satisfied get other stats in those slots. Thats the way it is for priests iirc.
WriterXiao8~~
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-13 18:31:49
January 13 2015 18:31 GMT
#7819
http://holybouch.com/2014/11/26/the-spirit-post-why-holy-paladins-want-it/

Basically since paladins have a really easy time turning extra mana into extra hps very effectively, spirit is king, at least according to that article
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 13 2015 18:41 GMT
#7820
At this point in the expansion and with the way gear works Spirit on items that have it > all other items in that slot. There's like one spirit item for each slot that can have spirit bar trinkets, and the only exception to the rule is the Everburning Candle. By removing Spirit from so many possible slots, Blizzard removed the real decision about how much spirit you actually want, now you just get as much as you can.
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