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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22597 Posts
January 02 2015 23:41 GMT
#7541
On January 03 2015 06:50 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 03:51 Kipsate wrote:
4 phase fights are excellent to finish an instance I feel and the last boss is partially the best designed because of that I suppose. for the final boss multiple phases is really nice but I can see why you can get tired of it.


Well, it's more just with most of the difficulty being in the transition phases and being able to play 20 times and have ~15-18 of those wipes happen between for example 10 and 11 minutes into the fight. When everyone in your raid has done it with the same people 50 times, void zones are not really a thing, the arcane jumps are handled fine, combat resses even exist so it would take some kind of catastrophic failure to bring the whole raid down, so it usually just always happens at the exact same time (second transition phase)

Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 06:06 Kipsate wrote:
They could have build an entire expansion around Lady Vasjh/Kaelthas, instead they wiped 3 major characters in Warcraft in a single expansion.

Granted you could ressurect lady Vasjh for an Azshara/Naga expansion but I am not sure Blizzard would do that as people hated Vasjhir as it was(personally I enjoyed it when I did it once, it was refreshing, daring and innovative but I always did Hyjal in favour of Vashir after that).


I think they need more zones like Vashj'ir

dumping everyone into that frost zone in WOD that i didn't even finish the lore for and can't remember the name of was much more anticlimactic than WOTLK and Cata. The initial introduction event was pretty good but as soon as you hit frost zone and have to build garrison everything went somewhat downhill~ Maybe i'd like the alliance zone more, but i had to either reroll completely or take a server with all of my max level chars that had a 200 to 1 ratio of horde to alliance

Imo Frostfire is a beautiful zone if you see a picture of it. But when you spend hours and hours in it then its terrible, nothing but white snow with distant black mountains.
The Alliance:Horde ratio is pretty meaningless for a non-serious alt so long as your not on a PvP server. The connected AH has solved many of the problems.

And I think Vashj'ir in general is seen as pretty damn terrible. WoW isn't made for underwater combat and while I don't dislike the zone that much myself the general public seems to.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
January 03 2015 00:17 GMT
#7542
Vashj'ir was amazing imo. Better than that shitstain deepholm.

"We need another zone! IDEAS PEOPLE!"

"...Rocks?"

"FUCKING FANATASIC!"
Useless wet fish.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
January 03 2015 00:21 GMT
#7543
I thought all the cata zones were actually pretty ok in their way. Vash'ir sucked if you were trying to rush through levelling, but otherwise it was good.

Deepholm rocks look really pretty
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
January 03 2015 00:23 GMT
#7544
Teoita confirmed to be playing Braille version of WoW. Deepholm rocks pretty. My nutsack is prettier than that zone XD
Useless wet fish.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
January 03 2015 00:25 GMT
#7545
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
January 03 2015 01:23 GMT
#7546
Damn I hated Deepholm, color pallet was extremely depressing for me. The upside was that the sense of scale it offered was great. Vashj'ir I absolutely adored, great sense of scale, stunningly beautiful visuals, good quest flow. Would definitely level chars trough it again. I have no idea why people hated it, imo the mechanics of underwater fighting could have been rafined and it would have made for a great underwater raid to boot.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-03 01:37:08
January 03 2015 01:36 GMT
#7547
On January 03 2015 10:23 Destructicon wrote:
Damn I hated Deepholm, color pallet was extremely depressing for me. The upside was that the sense of scale it offered was great. Vashj'ir I absolutely adored, great sense of scale, stunningly beautiful visuals, good quest flow. Would definitely level chars trough it again. I have no idea why people hated it, imo the mechanics of underwater fighting could have been rafined and it would have made for a great underwater raid to boot.


I could see some interesting mechanics just using the breath bar alone. Last phase of Keal thas / al akir kinda has the same thing as underwater combat and they've been really cool fights.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
January 03 2015 03:37 GMT
#7548
On January 03 2015 08:41 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 06:50 Cyro wrote:
On January 03 2015 03:51 Kipsate wrote:
4 phase fights are excellent to finish an instance I feel and the last boss is partially the best designed because of that I suppose. for the final boss multiple phases is really nice but I can see why you can get tired of it.


Well, it's more just with most of the difficulty being in the transition phases and being able to play 20 times and have ~15-18 of those wipes happen between for example 10 and 11 minutes into the fight. When everyone in your raid has done it with the same people 50 times, void zones are not really a thing, the arcane jumps are handled fine, combat resses even exist so it would take some kind of catastrophic failure to bring the whole raid down, so it usually just always happens at the exact same time (second transition phase)

On January 03 2015 06:06 Kipsate wrote:
They could have build an entire expansion around Lady Vasjh/Kaelthas, instead they wiped 3 major characters in Warcraft in a single expansion.

Granted you could ressurect lady Vasjh for an Azshara/Naga expansion but I am not sure Blizzard would do that as people hated Vasjhir as it was(personally I enjoyed it when I did it once, it was refreshing, daring and innovative but I always did Hyjal in favour of Vashir after that).


I think they need more zones like Vashj'ir

dumping everyone into that frost zone in WOD that i didn't even finish the lore for and can't remember the name of was much more anticlimactic than WOTLK and Cata. The initial introduction event was pretty good but as soon as you hit frost zone and have to build garrison everything went somewhat downhill~ Maybe i'd like the alliance zone more, but i had to either reroll completely or take a server with all of my max level chars that had a 200 to 1 ratio of horde to alliance

Imo Frostfire is a beautiful zone if you see a picture of it. But when you spend hours and hours in it then its terrible, nothing but white snow with distant black mountains.
The Alliance:Horde ratio is pretty meaningless for a non-serious alt so long as your not on a PvP server. The connected AH has solved many of the problems.

And I think Vashj'ir in general is seen as pretty damn terrible. WoW isn't made for underwater combat and while I don't dislike the zone that much myself the general public seems to.


The AH is linked now? Just across factions or across battlegroup etc?

I'm 1; on a pvp server and 2; would join a high level guild so.. yeah
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
January 03 2015 03:57 GMT
#7549
AHs arent linked across faction, theres still the neutral AH in the goblin cities for that. It is linked across connected realms. http://www.wowwiki.com/Connected_Realms
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
January 03 2015 04:25 GMT
#7550
holy shit i just got a 645 bow from garrison missions which came with both crit and multistrike

hit the fucking jackpot, my dps just rocked right up
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
January 03 2015 05:57 GMT
#7551
On January 03 2015 12:57 Warri wrote:
AHs arent linked across faction, theres still the neutral AH in the goblin cities for that. It is linked across connected realms. http://www.wowwiki.com/Connected_Realms


Auction Houses are linked between factions since WoD. The best part is when you are killed by someone in ashran and then have to buy their auctions afterwards
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nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
January 03 2015 08:01 GMT
#7552
Just downed Mythic Kargath in a pug took 9 attempts was really suprised. Kinda funny cause I'm still 6/7N 4/7H.

Rolled a 86 on my helm but a holy pally in my guild rolled a 92... At least it went to a guildie lol.

I really wish my guild would all get back from holidays because I can never get into a good pug imp group without the achievement. The other day I begged my way into a group where I was the only one without the achieve, was given a warning not to fuck up, zero chances. Everything went smooth until the internet randomly decided to shit on me right as I was supposed to pick up the reaver. Needless to say when I logged back in I was no longer in the group... fml.
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 03 2015 14:33 GMT
#7553
On January 03 2015 17:01 nikj wrote:
Just downed Mythic Kargath in a pug took 9 attempts was really suprised. Kinda funny cause I'm still 6/7N 4/7H.

Rolled a 86 on my helm but a holy pally in my guild rolled a 92... At least it went to a guildie lol.

I really wish my guild would all get back from holidays because I can never get into a good pug imp group without the achievement. The other day I begged my way into a group where I was the only one without the achieve, was given a warning not to fuck up, zero chances. Everything went smooth until the internet randomly decided to shit on me right as I was supposed to pick up the reaver. Needless to say when I logged back in I was no longer in the group... fml.

If you want imp done yourself do the following

Make group for imp:
Request 6/7 normal
invite 10 healers to like 9 dps
Enjoy 20 minute imp kill
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
January 04 2015 01:25 GMT
#7554
On January 03 2015 13:25 Targe wrote:
holy shit i just got a 645 bow from garrison missions which came with both crit and multistrike

hit the fucking jackpot, my dps just rocked right up


You could have bought weapon and upgraded it weeks ago if you cared about DPS though, getting a wep to 655 is only 70k or so with whatever stats you want
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 04 2015 02:27 GMT
#7555
Farming mounts is exhausting at times, but seeing results is nice. Got Mimiron's head and the Wind Drake from Alakir this week.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
January 04 2015 02:28 GMT
#7556
On January 04 2015 10:25 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 13:25 Targe wrote:
holy shit i just got a 645 bow from garrison missions which came with both crit and multistrike

hit the fucking jackpot, my dps just rocked right up


You could have bought weapon and upgraded it weeks ago if you cared about DPS though, getting a wep to 655 is only 70k or so with whatever stats you want


Am I the only one who thinks 70k is an absurd amount of money to have? Let alone to spend everything you have on 1 item.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
January 04 2015 03:03 GMT
#7557
i dont have that much money cyro :|
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
January 04 2015 03:06 GMT
#7558
On January 04 2015 11:28 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 10:25 Cyro wrote:
On January 03 2015 13:25 Targe wrote:
holy shit i just got a 645 bow from garrison missions which came with both crit and multistrike

hit the fucking jackpot, my dps just rocked right up


You could have bought weapon and upgraded it weeks ago if you cared about DPS though, getting a wep to 655 is only 70k or so with whatever stats you want


Am I the only one who thinks 70k is an absurd amount of money to have? Let alone to spend everything you have on 1 item.



No. I can hardly think of a scenario where splashing 70k out on a 655 weapon is worth it. If you have a ton of money.. maybe? I'd rather stick with 630/640/645's and just pick up a weapon from normal hm.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 03:12:39
January 04 2015 03:10 GMT
#7559
On January 04 2015 11:28 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 10:25 Cyro wrote:
On January 03 2015 13:25 Targe wrote:
holy shit i just got a 645 bow from garrison missions which came with both crit and multistrike

hit the fucking jackpot, my dps just rocked right up


You could have bought weapon and upgraded it weeks ago if you cared about DPS though, getting a wep to 655 is only 70k or so with whatever stats you want


Am I the only one who thinks 70k is an absurd amount of money to have? Let alone to spend everything you have on 1 item.

70k isnt much if you played at the start of the expansion, when mats were still worth something and just doing 5 minutes garrison per day got you 1k per character/garrison. I havent played for a few weeks now but with savage blood and the treasure follower missions from level 3 inn you can probably still get 1k per day.
What other reason is there to have money though? Repair costs arent really as high as they used to be compared to income and mats for raiding are in abundance. The best feast is basically for free as a side product in the garrison, flasks and potions are really cheap too. So gold just accumulates and other than looking nice in your bags all you can do with it is buy items that you will use for two weeks or so until you get an upgrade.
Edit: although i have to agree, if youre not looking to raid mythic, that item is probably useless anyway. better keep it and try to buy a mythic from bmah when theres one available. those probably go for several hundred k though.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 03:31:16
January 04 2015 03:27 GMT
#7560
On January 04 2015 11:28 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 10:25 Cyro wrote:
On January 03 2015 13:25 Targe wrote:
holy shit i just got a 645 bow from garrison missions which came with both crit and multistrike

hit the fucking jackpot, my dps just rocked right up


You could have bought weapon and upgraded it weeks ago if you cared about DPS though, getting a wep to 655 is only 70k or so with whatever stats you want


Am I the only one who thinks 70k is an absurd amount of money to have? Let alone to spend everything you have on 1 item.


There are several resources that you can farm for ~1-2k per hour that involve killing thousands of mobs that can drop BoE's. If you get a BoE, you'll instantly get ~10-100k gold added to your bank. That's assuming you have no other income or anything like profession/garrison bringing money, etc. I only cleared trash once on mythic Highmaul - that is, killed 1 boss then killed available trash - but we did it with ~10 people, it took like half an hour and the gold income averaged to ~15-20k per person with the four drops.

Several items are just too good to ignore. For 70k, either a Kyanos or a 655 weapon for example - these are huge upgrades, not small. You can literally get 3-5 in a raid and still gain less DPS than you would have from equipping EITHER a kyanos OR a weapon, especially if you're not clearing heroic modes
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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