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On January 04 2015 12:27 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 11:28 Zooper31 wrote:On January 04 2015 10:25 Cyro wrote:On January 03 2015 13:25 Targe wrote: holy shit i just got a 645 bow from garrison missions which came with both crit and multistrike
hit the fucking jackpot, my dps just rocked right up You could have bought weapon and upgraded it weeks ago if you cared about DPS though, getting a wep to 655 is only 70k or so with whatever stats you want Am I the only one who thinks 70k is an absurd amount of money to have? Let alone to spend everything you have on 1 item. There are several resources that you can farm for ~1-2k per hour that involve killing thousands of mobs that can drop BoE's. If you get a BoE, you'll instantly get ~10-100k gold added to your bank. That's assuming you have no other income or anything like profession/garrison bringing money, etc
So at the best farming rate of 2k an hour, you need to farm for 35hours straight to have enough money to buy your weapon. Seems incredibly stupid to me... That's of course assuming you don't get super lucky and find a really good BoE and instantly make bank.
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United Kingdom20318 Posts
On January 04 2015 12:31 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 12:27 Cyro wrote:On January 04 2015 11:28 Zooper31 wrote:On January 04 2015 10:25 Cyro wrote:On January 03 2015 13:25 Targe wrote: holy shit i just got a 645 bow from garrison missions which came with both crit and multistrike
hit the fucking jackpot, my dps just rocked right up You could have bought weapon and upgraded it weeks ago if you cared about DPS though, getting a wep to 655 is only 70k or so with whatever stats you want Am I the only one who thinks 70k is an absurd amount of money to have? Let alone to spend everything you have on 1 item. There are several resources that you can farm for ~1-2k per hour that involve killing thousands of mobs that can drop BoE's. If you get a BoE, you'll instantly get ~10-100k gold added to your bank. That's assuming you have no other income or anything like profession/garrison bringing money, etc So at the best farming rate of 2k an hour, you need to farm for 35hours straight to have enough money to buy your weapon. Seems incredibly stupid to me... That's of course assuming you don't get super lucky and find a really good BoE and instantly make bank.
The BoE drop rates are actually quite high. I got two in my first 6 hours and they were both worth ~30k+. Also i made like 50k from blacksmithing alone, even though i never leveled it past 1 skill (and i didn't have it until a while after expansion) or spent more than 3-5 minutes a day on it
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Killed Poundfist on Stormrage-EU today! Camped for 12 hours(but leveled fishing, listened to audiobook and did yoga while the PC had WoW running) Everyone was pretty happy when it spawned, I think it was after 98 hours or something!
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On January 04 2015 12:27 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 11:28 Zooper31 wrote:On January 04 2015 10:25 Cyro wrote:On January 03 2015 13:25 Targe wrote: holy shit i just got a 645 bow from garrison missions which came with both crit and multistrike
hit the fucking jackpot, my dps just rocked right up You could have bought weapon and upgraded it weeks ago if you cared about DPS though, getting a wep to 655 is only 70k or so with whatever stats you want Am I the only one who thinks 70k is an absurd amount of money to have? Let alone to spend everything you have on 1 item. There are several resources that you can farm for ~1-2k per hour that involve killing thousands of mobs that can drop BoE's. If you get a BoE, you'll instantly get ~10-100k gold added to your bank. That's assuming you have no other income or anything like profession/garrison bringing money, etc. I only cleared trash once on mythic Highmaul - that is, killed 1 boss then killed available trash - but we did it with ~10 people, it took like half an hour and the gold income averaged to ~15-20k per person with the four drops. Several items are just too good to ignore. For 70k, either a Kyanos or a 655 weapon for example - these are huge upgrades, not small. You can literally get 3-5 in a raid and still gain less DPS than you would have from equipping EITHER a kyanos OR a weapon, especially if you're not clearing heroic modes
The issue is that an average 640 pug can do heroic 7/7 just as easy as it is to join LFR and go through that so there really isn't a point in buying any BoEs unless it is mythic.
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how did a name like poundfist ever make it to live
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United Kingdom20318 Posts
On January 04 2015 13:28 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 12:27 Cyro wrote:On January 04 2015 11:28 Zooper31 wrote:On January 04 2015 10:25 Cyro wrote:On January 03 2015 13:25 Targe wrote: holy shit i just got a 645 bow from garrison missions which came with both crit and multistrike
hit the fucking jackpot, my dps just rocked right up You could have bought weapon and upgraded it weeks ago if you cared about DPS though, getting a wep to 655 is only 70k or so with whatever stats you want Am I the only one who thinks 70k is an absurd amount of money to have? Let alone to spend everything you have on 1 item. There are several resources that you can farm for ~1-2k per hour that involve killing thousands of mobs that can drop BoE's. If you get a BoE, you'll instantly get ~10-100k gold added to your bank. That's assuming you have no other income or anything like profession/garrison bringing money, etc. I only cleared trash once on mythic Highmaul - that is, killed 1 boss then killed available trash - but we did it with ~10 people, it took like half an hour and the gold income averaged to ~15-20k per person with the four drops. Several items are just too good to ignore. For 70k, either a Kyanos or a 655 weapon for example - these are huge upgrades, not small. You can literally get 3-5 in a raid and still gain less DPS than you would have from equipping EITHER a kyanos OR a weapon, especially if you're not clearing heroic modes The issue is that an average 640 pug can do heroic 7/7 just as easy as it is to join LFR and go through that so there really isn't a point in buying any BoEs unless it is mythic.
I agree, but that's kinda a game design problem. Gear scaling is pretty extreme (exponential). While some fights can be very very hard at i630 when people are not confident in what to do, by the time you're in i645-660, Heroic can feel undertuned. As you have so many combat resses (~2-3 per fight on ~12-15 man) you're allowed to make a lot of mistakes, so it takes less effort and skill to get to the point where stuff drops dead without major problems or mass wiping. LFR-normal-hc is kinda lumped together in my mind now (just like the achievements for all of them are the same, thanks blizzard) with Mythic standing out as the hard content. I originally thought that a bunch of people would do normal, a bunch more heroic and then some last guys Mythic, but with gear and time it seems like only Mythic stands out as being challenging
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Guild did our first run at mythic tonight Didn't down any bosses sadly, Our raid is average 655 ilevel So hopfully with this next weels lockout it will bump us up enough to give us that edge. We could have killed Kargath but honestly I think people just really don't like moving during fights and that is a staple mechanic throughout all highmaul.
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On January 04 2015 14:42 FinestHour wrote: how did a name like poundfist ever make it to live
I ask myself that every time I kill Thathung in SoO
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Lalalaland34495 Posts
On January 04 2015 17:11 Stancel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2015 14:42 FinestHour wrote: how did a name like poundfist ever make it to live I ask myself that every time I kill Thathung in SoO Ahahaha oh man that name is brilliant
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I just did one of the shadowhunter quests you get at your garnison while lvl 100
There's a cool moment where you get captured by Azuka Bladefury, which is a new character, and she's Warlord of the Burning Blade. She put you in a cage and you assist to a meeting between all the warlords ( Grommash, Killrogg, Blackhand, Kargath and Azuka ) Blackhand talks about the Horde and Alliance assaulting his gates at Blackrock Foundry, which is funny sicne it's not open yet lol
What to take out of that is that they probably had plans to have Highmaul and blackrock foundry available at the same time, because otherwise it makes no sense for Kargath to be here alive. Also, we have another Warlord, Azuka Bladefury, that is brand new. This is the first time we see that character.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Isn't the Apexis Daily (Assault on the Pit?) essentially an attack on the gates of Blackrock Foundry though?
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
On January 05 2015 03:20 Zealously wrote: Isn't the Apexis Daily (Assault on the Pit?) essentially an attack on the gates of Blackrock Foundry though? Pretty much. Hell even the post nagrand quests states they should attack blackrock foundry first and they suggest highmaul second.
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Italy12246 Posts
It is. They never had plans to release both raids at the same time, as evidenced by the different item levels and shitty itemization in highmaul.
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Oh, that might be it, the assault in front of it makes sense.
Well, scrap that part then, but the introduction of Azuka Bladefury is pretty important I think.
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She gets introduced in the first few quests in Nagrand.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Yeah shes around, you kill her lackies in the arena where you get the mining follower.
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Italy12246 Posts
Also you run into her again during another garrison campaign quest
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Well, I must have missed her while powerleveling hard I guess. I didn't expect them to create a brand new Warlord tho.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Makes sense for the Burning Blade to be given a part though, did we ever learn much about that can pre-WoD?
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
I think they were mostly burning legion followers but after a while they basically just became a place to say "here be blademasters"
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