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Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
January 02 2015 17:47 GMT
#7521
On January 03 2015 02:16 Warri wrote:
ugh, you didnt do 25minutes sha of fear did you?

I indeed did not raid this tier
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 02 2015 17:55 GMT
#7522
On January 03 2015 02:38 Kipsate wrote:
Hunters are way worse to face in PvP then DK selfhealing.


Heh, i'm the first to admit 12sec traps are stupid and need to go, but the 4 piece brewmaster is probably the stupidest thing 've seen in the whole expansion so far.
A comp that rely on being unkillable throught dampening isn't something that should exist.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
January 02 2015 17:57 GMT
#7523
On January 03 2015 02:55 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 02:38 Kipsate wrote:
Hunters are way worse to face in PvP then DK selfhealing.


Heh, i'm the first to admit 12sec traps are stupid and need to go, but the 4 piece brewmaster is probably the stupidest thing 've seen in the whole expansion so far.
A comp that rely on being unkillable throught dampening isn't something that should exist.


They needed to remind you that it's a hero class, we missed early WOTLK way too much :>
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 02 2015 17:57 GMT
#7524
On January 03 2015 02:28 Obzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 07:52 Noocta wrote:
I'm doing some pandaria content for fun to discover a bit what happened during that expansion Lore wise, but apparently I can't queue for Scnearios needed to progress the story for the Horde Dominance Foerce. Trying to join " A Dagger in the Dark" by talking to Nazgrim at Domination Point, but it says I " do not meet the requirements for the chosen dungeons"

Is there any fix to this ?
Wowhead and google didn't help me sadly, but I saw other people with the same issue.

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 08:14 Alventenie wrote:
I ran into similar problems as well, it seems that since they removed the scenarios from the Dungeos & Raids interface, I cant queue for any old scenarios. Any new ones are brought on by talking to specific people (ie Gharg for the Coliseum, your garrison adviser for proving grounds, etc)

Unsure how to fix =/.


I think you can solo queue for MoP scenarios at Mogu'shan Palace in Vale of Eternal Blossoms. (Loremasters/Archaeology spot)


Got the same message from the thing that allow you to queue to scenario there.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 02 2015 18:51 GMT
#7525
4 phase fights are excellent to finish an instance I feel and the last boss is partially the best designed because of that I suppose. for the final boss multiple phases is really nice but I can see why you can get tired of it.
WriterXiao8~~
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
January 02 2015 19:17 GMT
#7526
Yeah i agree. It also depends on the boss though; some random ogre emperor isn't that big of a deal compared to Arthas or even Blackhand so i feel like they could have done with one less phase (probably the first one since it's trivial anyway).

All in all i still think Imperator is a cool encounter though.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-02 19:33:36
January 02 2015 19:29 GMT
#7527
Mythic even adds a phase

Edit: Its not neccesarily thats its a random ogre emperor but more like the final boss of the instance I suppose.

WriterXiao8~~
KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
January 02 2015 19:37 GMT
#7528
I dunno, I like imp's lines and character so I don't mind him being a long fight. He's a nice changeup from the ogre announcers in the coliseum.

Also 3/7M! Got brack down yesterday.
Doom Guy
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 02 2015 20:15 GMT
#7529
All in all, Margok is still a pretty cool character, even tho he could have used, him and the Orgre Empire, a bit more backstory.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-02 20:24:40
January 02 2015 20:22 GMT
#7530
Yeah I feel so too, a lot of Nagrand was buildup to the confrontation of Garrosh with very little on the Ogre Empire. If say Gorgrond was more dedicated to Ogres(I know requires a whole different zone I suppose) rather then the stupid flowers everywhere I could see it to be a lot more epic like for example Blackhand most likely will be.

Speaking of which for the love of god NO FLOWER RAID(considering 2 tiers, Grommash plus there has to be a shadow council/Burning Legion Tie-in most likely I think we are safe though, please let us be safe). I already dread having to spend my time in Tanaan Jungle,

yes I hate flowers and Jungle.
WriterXiao8~~
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 02 2015 20:24 GMT
#7531
On January 03 2015 04:37 KingDime wrote:
I dunno, I like imp's lines and character so I don't mind him being a long fight. He's a nice changeup from the ogre announcers in the coliseum.

Also 3/7M! Got brack down yesterday.

Grats dude my followers finally got me my first mythic loot so i'm hoping to actually start mythic sooner or later
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 02 2015 20:30 GMT
#7532
Yea was rather disappointed that the last boss was some random ogre instead of one of the warlords. Also the way they wasted Doomhammer was bad.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
January 02 2015 20:58 GMT
#7533
On January 03 2015 05:30 NotSorry wrote:
Yea was rather disappointed that the last boss was some random ogre instead of one of the warlords. Also the way they wasted Doomhammer was bad.


I've played enough WoW to know that its never too late to resurrect a cool character later on. I wouldn't be surprised if they did it with Ner'Zul and Doomhammer at some point. However it does worry me that they haven't learned their lessons yet, they sort of wasted Anub'Arak as in a 5 man dungeon only to bring him back later, which ultimately makes them look lazy and uninspired.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 02 2015 21:06 GMT
#7534
They could have build an entire expansion around Lady Vasjh/Kaelthas, instead they wiped 3 major characters in Warcraft in a single expansion.

Granted you could ressurect lady Vasjh for an Azshara/Naga expansion but I am not sure Blizzard would do that as people hated Vasjhir as it was(personally I enjoyed it when I did it once, it was refreshing, daring and innovative but I always did Hyjal in favour of Vashir after that).
WriterXiao8~~
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
January 02 2015 21:10 GMT
#7535
On January 03 2015 06:06 Kipsate wrote:
They could have build an entire expansion around Lady Vasjh/Kaelthas, instead they wiped 3 major characters in Warcraft in a single expansion.

Granted you could ressurect lady Vasjh for an Azshara/Naga expansion but I am not sure Blizzard would do that as people hated Vasjhir as it was(personally I enjoyed it when I did it once, it was refreshing, daring and innovative but I always did Hyjal in favour of Vashir after that).

They can bring back Kael thas again. Don't be silly
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-02 21:55:15
January 02 2015 21:50 GMT
#7536
On January 03 2015 03:51 Kipsate wrote:
4 phase fights are excellent to finish an instance I feel and the last boss is partially the best designed because of that I suppose. for the final boss multiple phases is really nice but I can see why you can get tired of it.


Well, it's more just with most of the difficulty being in the transition phases and being able to play 20 times and have ~15-18 of those wipes happen between for example 10 and 11 minutes into the fight. When everyone in your raid has done it with the same people 50 times, void zones are not really a thing, the arcane jumps are handled fine, combat resses even exist so it would take some kind of catastrophic failure to bring the whole raid down, so it usually just always happens at the exact same time (second transition phase)

On January 03 2015 06:06 Kipsate wrote:
They could have build an entire expansion around Lady Vasjh/Kaelthas, instead they wiped 3 major characters in Warcraft in a single expansion.

Granted you could ressurect lady Vasjh for an Azshara/Naga expansion but I am not sure Blizzard would do that as people hated Vasjhir as it was(personally I enjoyed it when I did it once, it was refreshing, daring and innovative but I always did Hyjal in favour of Vashir after that).


I think they need more zones like Vashj'ir

dumping everyone into that frost zone in WOD that i didn't even finish the lore for and can't remember the name of was much more anticlimactic than WOTLK and Cata. The initial introduction event was pretty good but as soon as you hit frost zone and have to build garrison everything went somewhat downhill~ Maybe i'd like the alliance zone more, but i had to either reroll completely or take a server with all of my max level chars that had a 200 to 1 ratio of horde to alliance
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-02 22:10:15
January 02 2015 21:59 GMT
#7537
Kael maybe but any Vashj focused expansion would probably end up with her taking a backseat to Queen Aszhara and her being unceremoniously killed off by the inevitably resurrected illadin.
My only wish for Grom is no fucking Thrall, don't get me wrong Thrall is cool but I'm pretty much done with Green Jesus swinging in to save the day. Hell I wouldn't mind Yrel, Khadgar or Akama saving the day for the inevitable burning legion raid just no more thrall blizzard pls.
On January 03 2015 06:10 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 06:06 Kipsate wrote:
They could have build an entire expansion around Lady Vasjh/Kaelthas, instead they wiped 3 major characters in Warcraft in a single expansion.

Granted you could ressurect lady Vasjh for an Azshara/Naga expansion but I am not sure Blizzard would do that as people hated Vasjhir as it was(personally I enjoyed it when I did it once, it was refreshing, daring and innovative but I always did Hyjal in favour of Vashir after that).

They can bring back Kael thas again. Don't be silly

The final dungeon will be a revived Kael Thas leading zandalari trolls in deadmines.
Also scarlet crusade because we can't have an expansion unless they're involved, scarlet crusader trolls in the deadmines. Nailed it
Glorious SEA doto
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 02 2015 22:33 GMT
#7538
I liked the Scarlet Crusade/Offensive a lot and their end in WOTLK felt.......unsatisfying.
WriterXiao8~~
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
January 02 2015 23:12 GMT
#7539
I played a little bit of the beta, and I got some questions, don't mind to be spoiled. So i will buy the expantion later this month, however i want to ask: Do the saurfangs appear? In the coments "NotSorry" said the way they wasted doomhammer was bad, what did they do with him? Did he met thrall?
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 02 2015 23:28 GMT
#7540
On January 03 2015 08:12 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
I played a little bit of the beta, and I got some questions, don't mind to be spoiled. So i will buy the expantion later this month, however i want to ask: Do the saurfangs appear? In the coments "NotSorry" said the way they wasted doomhammer was bad, what did they do with him? Did he met thrall?


+ Show Spoiler +
We do not see the Saurfang brothers yet.
Doomhammer get killed by Blackhand during the leveling quests because Durotan convinced Doomhammer that the Iron Horde and invading Azeroth was a bad idea.
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