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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
November 30 2013 13:46 GMT
#641
On November 30 2013 17:23 akatama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 14:44 micronesia wrote:
Yea I hate killing three raid bosses and not getting a single drop for the Wratheon quest... it did happen today! I wonder how far into WoD you will need to go in order to get a better cloak than the legendary one from MoP.

6 weeks worth of LFR, flex and Normal, no trinket off Immerseus and only the LFR version of the caster trinket off Dark Shamans (also coining both bosses on Normal every week). But it's ok, you can coin 22 gold as compensation...

my 25man hc guild has 5 immerseus trinkets, of which 3 are from bonus rolls, over 10 ids. They just dont drop for us
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
November 30 2013 15:48 GMT
#642
On November 30 2013 19:39 Masq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 14:44 micronesia wrote:
Yea I hate killing three raid bosses and not getting a single drop for the Wratheon quest... it did happen today! I wonder how far into WoD you will need to go in order to get a better cloak than the legendary one from MoP.


safe to assume theyll limit the proc above lv 90

I have no idea what this means; please someone explain.

Separate: my sister recently tried playing Wow, but she uses her mouse in her left hand (she doesn't use her right hand for things that will strain it such as mouse use) and is putting her right hand on the keyboard. I'm trying to advise her on how to set up her interface, but I'm not sure... currently she's using the arrow keys which is bad because you can't even strafe. Maybe she could bind the six movement commands to her numeric pad (4,6 to turn, 5 for backwards, 7,9 for strafe, 8 for forward) but she still won't have access to most shortcut commands without moving one of her hands; either the hand off the mouse or the other hand away from the movement keys.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
November 30 2013 15:49 GMT
#643
Use IJKL for movement and keys around it. Basically a mirrored WASD.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
November 30 2013 15:51 GMT
#644
What about all the shortcut keys? Just remap them all to nearby buttons?

I know j is normally for the guild window, i is for the dungeon finder, k is for professions, and l is for the log (etc), and most of the other nearby buttons are used for other equally important things! Maybe someone has a map they made that works well and they shared it with the community of left-handed players?
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
November 30 2013 15:53 GMT
#645
You will probally have to remap everything if you want a good setup. WASD isn't an option? You don't really need the right side shortcuts when you are moving/fighting.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 15:55:32
November 30 2013 15:55 GMT
#646
Yeah you can just remap everything. I mean, i have basically every class spell bound between f1-f5 and z-b, i don't see why should couldnt do f6-f9 and b-period (eventually).
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
November 30 2013 15:55 GMT
#647
On December 01 2013 00:51 micronesia wrote:
What about all the shortcut keys? Just remap them all to nearby buttons?

I know j is normally for the guild window, i is for the dungeon finder, k is for professions, and l is for the log (etc), and most of the other nearby buttons are used for other equally important things! Maybe someone has a map they made that works well and they shared it with the community of left-handed players?

That stuff isn't important, she can bind it to the other side of the keyboard.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
November 30 2013 16:43 GMT
#648
I'm a lefty. I just use wasd. ijkl might be a more natural place for your hand, but I am tired of remapping everything for all games and just got used to using wasd. Bind all the important things to the keys around it.

One advantage of ijkl is that if you're used to blind typing, the movement to shift is more natural, but it's pretty easy to get used to hitting shift with your thumb and actually allows more flexibility than with your pinky.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24676 Posts
November 30 2013 16:43 GMT
#649
You guys make it seem like coming up with a plan to 'remap everything' is so easy. I have weeks of playtime on my characters and just now do I finally know most of the default shortcuts lol... no way in hell my sister will have any idea of how to do it herself. If she isn't using the same 'map' as me it's also more difficult for me to provide her help over chat. This isn't a huge problem, but I wouldn't say it "isn't important" either.

SKC: I don't think wasd is an option because it's too far to the left to put your right hand on, without shifting all of your i/o devices a foot to the right.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Railgan
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland1507 Posts
November 30 2013 18:02 GMT
#650
If it helps your remapping problems...

[image loading]

this is the UI i use..

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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 19:50:03
November 30 2013 19:43 GMT
#651
On December 01 2013 01:43 micronesia wrote:
You guys make it seem like coming up with a plan to 'remap everything' is so easy. I have weeks of playtime on my characters and just now do I finally know most of the default shortcuts lol... no way in hell my sister will have any idea of how to do it herself. If she isn't using the same 'map' as me it's also more difficult for me to provide her help over chat. This isn't a huge problem, but I wouldn't say it "isn't important" either.

SKC: I don't think wasd is an option because it's too far to the left to put your right hand on, without shifting all of your i/o devices a foot to the right.


Well, my girlfriend tried playing a bit. She doesn't play computer games, so the whole thing was completely new to her. Most of the time she just clicked the skills with the mouse. She ran around with the arrow keys. When I looked on in amazement and asked her why she didn't use the shortcuts she said that she couldn't remember what did what, and it was easier to just click.

As for moving the IO devices: I play on a notebook, so moving the keyboard isn't an option and wasd works okay. But it's all personal preference. If her hand is simply not comfortable there, then it won't work. The arrow keys aren't the end of the world either. They're easy to find on most keyboards, which is important. Most of the time when it matters I move with the mouse, so maybe have her try that, and use the numpad for hotkeys?

EDIT: as for remapping... if you don't want to remap, wasd is pretty much your only option, because that's the default layout. For a lefty if you want minimal remapping, I STRONGLY recommend to remap jump from spacebar to something else, because spacebar is pretty awkward to hit when you've got your right hand on wasd.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21666 Posts
November 30 2013 20:06 GMT
#652
On December 01 2013 00:48 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 19:39 Masq wrote:
On November 30 2013 14:44 micronesia wrote:
Yea I hate killing three raid bosses and not getting a single drop for the Wratheon quest... it did happen today! I wonder how far into WoD you will need to go in order to get a better cloak than the legendary one from MoP.


safe to assume theyll limit the proc above lv 90

I have no idea what this means; please someone explain.

Separate: my sister recently tried playing Wow, but she uses her mouse in her left hand (she doesn't use her right hand for things that will strain it such as mouse use) and is putting her right hand on the keyboard. I'm trying to advise her on how to set up her interface, but I'm not sure... currently she's using the arrow keys which is bad because you can't even strafe. Maybe she could bind the six movement commands to her numeric pad (4,6 to turn, 5 for backwards, 7,9 for strafe, 8 for forward) but she still won't have access to most shortcut commands without moving one of her hands; either the hand off the mouse or the other hand away from the movement keys.


As for turning/strafing I use the right mouse button for it. Because it moves you with the camera is makes your turn become a strafe if you hold down right mouse button, plus it lets you turn a lot tighter the the keyboard does by moving forward and turning your camera with the right mouse button.

As for more shortcuts. the keypad might be the way but depending on your keyboard setup the ins/home/ect buttons might be nearby aswell.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
November 30 2013 20:45 GMT
#653
I would just rebind the equivalent of A and D to strafe left and right, and it would force her to learn to mouse turn rather than keyboard turn. Fits more with FPS games etc as well.
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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 30 2013 21:30 GMT
#654
On November 30 2013 22:46 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 17:23 akatama wrote:
On November 30 2013 14:44 micronesia wrote:
Yea I hate killing three raid bosses and not getting a single drop for the Wratheon quest... it did happen today! I wonder how far into WoD you will need to go in order to get a better cloak than the legendary one from MoP.

6 weeks worth of LFR, flex and Normal, no trinket off Immerseus and only the LFR version of the caster trinket off Dark Shamans (also coining both bosses on Normal every week). But it's ok, you can coin 22 gold as compensation...

my 25man hc guild has 5 immerseus trinkets, of which 3 are from bonus rolls, over 10 ids. They just dont drop for us


Fuck warri, you still play? Where are you raiding?
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Satire
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada295 Posts
November 30 2013 23:02 GMT
#655
On December 01 2013 01:43 micronesia wrote:
You guys make it seem like coming up with a plan to 'remap everything' is so easy. I have weeks of playtime on my characters and just now do I finally know most of the default shortcuts lol... no way in hell my sister will have any idea of how to do it herself. If she isn't using the same 'map' as me it's also more difficult for me to provide her help over chat. This isn't a huge problem, but I wouldn't say it "isn't important" either.

SKC: I don't think wasd is an option because it's too far to the left to put your right hand on, without shifting all of your i/o devices a foot to the right.


You could get her one of those WarCraft mice with the 1-9 buttons on the side. That way she could still use the arrow keys and the shift/ctrl/alt keys are close enough she could use those to bind the rest of the buttons.

Also obligatory UI post:

[image loading]


PS - the original WoW UI is just dandy actually. I used it pretty much up until MoP. I tried this arrangement because I liked having bigger buttons on my CD spells.
Satire is a lesson, parody is a game.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17982 Posts
November 30 2013 23:50 GMT
#656
On December 01 2013 08:02 Satire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 01:43 micronesia wrote:
You guys make it seem like coming up with a plan to 'remap everything' is so easy. I have weeks of playtime on my characters and just now do I finally know most of the default shortcuts lol... no way in hell my sister will have any idea of how to do it herself. If she isn't using the same 'map' as me it's also more difficult for me to provide her help over chat. This isn't a huge problem, but I wouldn't say it "isn't important" either.

SKC: I don't think wasd is an option because it's too far to the left to put your right hand on, without shifting all of your i/o devices a foot to the right.


You could get her one of those WarCraft mice with the 1-9 buttons on the side. That way she could still use the arrow keys and the shift/ctrl/alt keys are close enough she could use those to bind the rest of the buttons.

Also obligatory UI post:

[image loading]


PS - the original WoW UI is just dandy actually. I used it pretty much up until MoP. I tried this arrangement because I liked having bigger buttons on my CD spells.

If you've never used anything else, the WoW UI is fine, but you really start to notice some little things if you play without UI after doing with. For instance, selling junk and auto-opening AH mails

You'll also notice that using something like Bartender can save you a lot of space on your screen.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
December 01 2013 00:07 GMT
#657
I just recently remapped keybinds for 3 characters, wasn't that bad. Although I would just use WASD even if I were lefty. I had a lefty friend who I played CS with back in the day and he used WASD, granted theres not quite as many hotkeys in an fps but he did well with it.
Jumping on the UI screenshot bandwagon:

[image loading]
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
December 01 2013 00:29 GMT
#658
I use ESDF instead of WASD to have more keybindings, i don't really know why more people dont' do it. I find it super useful.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Makavw
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia165 Posts
December 01 2013 00:42 GMT
#659
I have always been a lefty and in all my games I use num5,1,2,3 as my movement keys and all other keys around it as shortcut. Tried ijkl, but it is the same as wsad - you will need to move your keyboard if you want your hand to be in natural position. I don't have enough space on my table so numpad it is!

So basically I have around 20 free keybinds not counting mouse buttons. It can be a problem for some classes that use unusually high amount of keybinds but for others it is not a problem if you are smart with macros (eg. all your dps CDs in one macro - or targetenemy/targetfriend).

In other games I have no problems at all.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
December 01 2013 00:57 GMT
#660
On December 01 2013 09:29 Teoita wrote:
I use ESDF instead of WASD to have more keybindings, i don't really know why more people dont' do it. I find it super useful.

I know of friends who do this and it makes sense, but it's a simple 'I am more used to WASD' from other FPS + MMORPG games etc. Plus hitting ctrl from resting on ESDF is annoying.
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