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Nausea
Sweden807 Posts
Oh and I would be surprised if this expansions end is not about the burning legion and them returning for the next expansion. As the devs said in a panel "Gul'dan is not happy about his plans not working out...and neither am kil'jaeden" - "they are still on the phone.." | ||
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nimbim
Germany985 Posts
On November 13 2013 03:02 Acrofales wrote: Kinda, but that didn't really happen. It just made it a one-stop optimize shop. I don't like the removal of stuff like hit, dodge or expertise, as it seems like it dumbs down the gear, but reforging was a pretty bad solution as well (as was the system up to Cata, when you just required higher math to solve a knapsack-like problem where you wanted the highest value for other stuff (+dmg, haste, crit, mastery, whatever) while still keeping you at the hit cap. I guess removing that stuff is probably the best thing, as it was badly designed that you desperately needed hit up to a certain number, after which it was entirely worthless (same for expertise). Spell damage, crit, haste and mastery have pretty complicated plots for what is better when, but most of the time if you pick up something with bigger numbers in the stats that you need, it is good. Hit was just a mess in that way: it was generally awesome, but you had to have lots of backup gear to be able to mix and match so you weren't "wasting" points on hit over the cap (although gems worked decently at fixing that). EDIT: I should probably mention that my experience in raiding stopped pretty early in Cata, so if this was all changed in MoP, ignore me! I think there are some exceptions in MoP. Mages and other straight-forward dps classes probably only have 1 best stat. But for example I play a Brewmaster Monk and there I can choose freely how much haste I want, how much mastery I want and how much crit I want according to my playstyle and whether I do 10 or 25hc. Also, with healers you can always choose if you want more spirit or go for the next haste breakpoint, more mastery etc. | ||
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Siggen
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nikj
Canada669 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On November 13 2013 03:16 DCRed wrote: He may or may not be the end boss of the expansion, he's under lot of speculation right now though. Bronze dragons lost their ability to control timelines after Cataclysm, only travel between them with few of them being able to send people back in time. However Kairoz takes Garrosh back in time and creates an alternate timeline and opens way back to Azeroth, this can be seen as opening(and closing) portal which is a feat usually possesed by very powerful characters like Illidan, Khadgar, Kazzak to name a few. If Kairoz isn't a major character in the expansion and was simply a tool to get Garrosh back to create the Iron Horde I guess the epoch stones(items he has you collect on weekly quests) are the reason for his powers. However if he's going to be major player, there's questions like is he actually a bronze dragon or someone under guise of bronze dragon? And what are ultimately his motives, to have orcs rule Azeroth or something beyond that? You know how Kil'Jaedan is the Deceiver? Hehehehehehehehheheheheheehe Just a possibility :D | ||
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HackBenjamin
Canada1094 Posts
Didn't we do this six or seven times already in the Caverns of Time? What's different about Garrosh going back and trying to change the timeline? How is he even able to do this? We know from Blizzcon that a traitor from the Bronze Dragonflight is helping Garrosh bend time. The Bronze Dragonflight, who also lost (most of?) their power after Deathwing, were charged with guarding the timeways on Azeroth, so how can he go back in time to pre-Dark Portal Draenor? More importantly, they mentioned that we are going into an "alternate timeline" that "branches off of ours" and it won't affect the present.. Well then, why the fuck do we care? | ||
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Dismay
United States1180 Posts
On November 13 2013 18:03 HackBenjamin wrote: I'll preface this with saying that I am a bit of a lore nerd. I think the expansion is going to be fun. Lots of cool new stuff (garrisons!), but the lore surrounding it is stupid. Didn't we do this six or seven times already in the Caverns of Time? What's different about Garrosh going back and trying to change the timeline? How is he even able to do this? We know from Blizzcon that a traitor from the Bronze Dragonflight is helping Garrosh bend time. The Bronze Dragonflight, who also lost (most of?) their power after Deathwing, were charged with guarding the timeways on Azeroth, so how can he go back in time to pre-Dark Portal Draenor? More importantly, they mentioned that we are going into an "alternate timeline" that "branches off of ours" and it won't affect the present.. Well then, why the fuck do we care? It won't affect us insomuch as our orcs will not stop being green and the events of our history will not change. However, it will have the very real affect of Garrosh's Iron Horde trying to poke its head into our world. If it helps, think of the branching timelines in Dragonball. In one everyone but Trunks is dead, in the other everyone's alive and Trunks never had to go back in time. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On November 13 2013 18:03 HackBenjamin wrote: I'll preface this with saying that I am a bit of a lore nerd. I think the expansion is going to be fun. Lots of cool new stuff (garrisons!), but the lore surrounding it is stupid. Didn't we do this six or seven times already in the Caverns of Time? What's different about Garrosh going back and trying to change the timeline? How is he even able to do this? We know from Blizzcon that a traitor from the Bronze Dragonflight is helping Garrosh bend time. The Bronze Dragonflight, who also lost (most of?) their power after Deathwing, were charged with guarding the timeways on Azeroth, so how can he go back in time to pre-Dark Portal Draenor? More importantly, they mentioned that we are going into an "alternate timeline" that "branches off of ours" and it won't affect the present.. Well then, why the fuck do we care? Whats different is that those 6-7 times had to happen in a certain way so it doesn't affect our current timeline. Garrosh and his buddy Kairoz(which was spoiled by Kosak) go back in time to an alternate universe. He somehow links our Dark Portal with that universe's portal making them act as one thus connecting both of our universes. Also, we don't know much more about the story other then that so we are just gonna have to wait and see if they release more information about the story or we wait for the expansion to see how the story plays out. I don't know how Kairoz(if what Kosak said is true) did this but maybe he was disappointed that he has become a shell of his former self and is mad at the world and works with the Legion. Hell, I don't know lol Anyways, though, we care because if we don't take of it then the Iron Horde will come through the portal and cause all sorts of mayhem which is what maybe the Legion wants?  You are from universe A, going to parallel universe B 30 years ago. Anything happen in universe B won't affect history of universe A. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On November 13 2013 18:58 FFW_Rude wrote: Speaking of portal (i'm quite out of the subject but) do people know if the portals that are in duskwood (where there was a dragon (i assume it has been remove i never saw him again) are link to that story ? Will there ever be something with those (or maybe i missed something) I didn't know this myself either, so i read something about it. It is home to one of the four portals to the Emerald Dream. The other three portals are in Feralas, The Hinterlands, and Ashenvale. There is also a fifth in Crystalsong Forest in Northrend. http://www.wowwiki.com/Twilight_Grove These dragons were once the lieutenants of Ysera, protecting the Emerald Dream from evil and whatnot. They have, however, also been corrupted by the Nightmare, twisting their powers and turning the dragons into what they once fought. There are four of them, each having emerged from one of the four portals connecting Azeroth to the Emerald Dream. They are found in Duskwood (Twilight Grove), the Hinterlands (Seradane), Feralas (Dream Bough), and Ashenvale (Bough Shadow). Although the portals are inactive, the dragons can be fought and killed, all of them being outdoor raid-bosses. More about Emerald Dream and answer to your question here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Emerald_Dream | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On November 13 2013 19:06 Grettin wrote: I didn't know this myself either, so i read something about it. http://www.wowwiki.com/Twilight_Grove More about Emerald Dream and answer to your question here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Emerald_Dream Ooohhhh thank you  i'm such a noob with that lore I'm not finished reading (just started) but i search for the terms "removed", "got back" etc... and i don't see if they are still in the game. I'm going to read it at lunch  i'll see if i can still fight this sucker or not in the current state of the game. | ||
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On November 13 2013 20:11 FFW_Rude wrote: Ooohhhh thank you i'm such a noob with that lore I'm not finished reading (just started) but i search for the terms "removed", "got back" etc... and i don't see if they are still in the game. I'm going to read it at lunch i'll see if i can still fight this sucker or not in the current state of the game.You cannot. Unless I'm mistaken. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
That's what i thought. But reading this thing made me wonder. In late 2007 blizzard said that they had plans for the emerald dream but they scrapped it for the "greater good" or something. So i read in this very thread that project titan was delayed and that it was in 2007 (can't find where i read it) when they said they wanted to scrap it or something. Titan... Who created the emerald dream ? Titans ! So is project titan a wow expansion and not an entierly new game ? maybe this hypotethis has been mentionned but i found it odd and wanted to share. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22152 Posts
On November 13 2013 20:59 FFW_Rude wrote: That's what i thought. But reading this thing made me wonder. In late 2007 blizzard said that they had plans for the emerald dream but they scrapped it for the "greater good" or something. So i read in this very thread that project titan was delayed and that it was in 2007 (can't find where i read it) when they said they wanted to scrap it or something. Titan... Who created the emerald dream ? Titans ! So is project titan a wow expansion and not an entierly new game ? maybe this hypotethis has been mentionned but i found it odd and wanted to share.Except Blizzard has come out and said project Titan was an entirely new IP not connected to warcraft or starcraft. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On November 13 2013 21:08 Gorsameth wrote: Except Blizzard has come out and said project Titan was an entirely new IP not connected to warcraft or starcraft. I know that they have said that but what if know they are saying : "no, we have to scrap it and take it wow". That's what i was going with. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Which is cool because it is win win for everyone then. People get to play the content without paying for an expansion, and the lore gets resolved. | ||
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HaRuHi
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
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digmouse
China6330 Posts
On November 13 2013 20:59 FFW_Rude wrote: That's what i thought. But reading this thing made me wonder. In late 2007 blizzard said that they had plans for the emerald dream but they scrapped it for the "greater good" or something. So i read in this very thread that project titan was delayed and that it was in 2007 (can't find where i read it) when they said they wanted to scrap it or something. Titan... Who created the emerald dream ? Titans ! So is project titan a wow expansion and not an entierly new game ? maybe this hypotethis has been mentionned but i found it odd and wanted to share.Emerald Dream has been basically axed out lore-wise and probably won't happen in a while if not forever. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On November 13 2013 21:18 Wintex wrote: Wintex#2278 - Alliance - Defias Brotherhood EU OR Horde - Twilight's Hammer EU Added to the list! | ||
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