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Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
August 08 2015 15:14 GMT
#1401
Welp, the big Legion invasion looks like its coming as a WoW expansion.

Or, lol, looks like now they did WC2 as an expansion, it's time for WC3
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 22:15:19
August 08 2015 22:03 GMT
#1402
here's a very long Grubby interview from today http://www.wca-europe.com/en/news/30683-grubby-i-think-this-is-a-golden-age-especially-for-esports

he talks a lot about Wc3

and also back2warcraft interviewed him and the videos are already on youtube
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
August 09 2015 10:15 GMT
#1403
Been watching some of the WCA matches. Really good stuff.

It's very odd to think that HLA is now a husband and father... Dude was young back when he was a solid EU player.

Guys, we're getting old.
I like words.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4165 Posts
August 10 2015 03:36 GMT
#1404
I'm curious for those who followed early on competitive WC3 / early Teamliquid.

What was TL's attitude towards WC3 in the early days? Kinda sucks theres no website with as extensive of a community like TL is for BW.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
August 10 2015 03:42 GMT
#1405
On August 10 2015 12:36 lestye wrote:
I'm curious for those who followed early on competitive WC3 / early Teamliquid.

What was TL's attitude towards WC3 in the early days? Kinda sucks theres no website with as extensive of a community like TL is for BW.


There were a few heavily active WC3 forums. WCreplays and replayers.net were both strong for a long time and I'm sure there were others. They've just died out in the last few years due to the scene only being active in China and EU.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
August 10 2015 07:02 GMT
#1406
On August 09 2015 07:03 3point14 wrote:
here's a very long Grubby interview from today http://www.wca-europe.com/en/news/30683-grubby-i-think-this-is-a-golden-age-especially-for-esports

he talks a lot about Wc3

and also back2warcraft interviewed him and the videos are already on youtube


thanks for linking the interview
nice to see him looking forward to the future of esports while not forgetting his past heritage as a WC3 great.
(unlike certain sellout/s dissing on older games they used to play...)
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
August 10 2015 07:09 GMT
#1407
On August 10 2015 12:42 Amarok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2015 12:36 lestye wrote:
I'm curious for those who followed early on competitive WC3 / early Teamliquid.

What was TL's attitude towards WC3 in the early days? Kinda sucks theres no website with as extensive of a community like TL is for BW.


There were a few heavily active WC3 forums. WCreplays and replayers.net were both strong for a long time and I'm sure there were others. They've just died out in the last few years due to the scene only being active in China and EU.


There were quite a few active WC3 websites. Those two you named, plus GosuGamers, SK-Gaming, MYM's website, and I can also tell you there were a lot of French community websites.

It is what it is though. The game is over ten years old. And while it's still alive, I think this thread is likely one of the most active English-speaking forums for WC3.
I like words.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-10 08:38:19
August 10 2015 08:34 GMT
#1408
On August 10 2015 12:36 lestye wrote:
I'm curious for those who followed early on competitive WC3 / early Teamliquid.

What was TL's attitude towards WC3 in the early days? Kinda sucks theres no website with as extensive of a community like TL is for BW.

Hm, a good number of people (sadly if I remember correctly I was guilty of this as well at some points) were quite hostile towards it. I think because of it looking like it would kill BW and we felt defensive...

Not all negative, but way more than it deserved.

On August 07 2015 15:45 Yoav wrote:
Very much agreed.

WC3 story spoilers for anyone born yesterday or living under a rock:
+ Show Spoiler +

I came to WC3 without any knowledge of the lore at all. Stepped into a fantasy/Tolkien universe, and felt, "Okay, I know my way around." But then the Orcs start showing their complexity, the human Hero goes to the dark side. I'm like, cool, getting dark. Then the fucking High Elves get destroyed. The human kingdom gets scattered, with only a handful of survivors fleeing for parts unknown. And suddenly I'm in love with this story. It's Tolkien if Boromir got the ring, killed the Mouth of Sauron then took over Mordor's armies and trashed Gondor and Rivendell. The beautifully constructed universe gets introduced to you... then shattered into a million pieces.

It was epic.

The orcs kill the Night Elf deity, free themselves from Demon corruption, and make peace with the humans, all in one campaign. Then Sauron invades fucking Valinor. The Night Elves have three fascinating characters, who all fight for their own way to make everything work. Eventually, they give up immortality to save their world.

And that was the first half.

TFT saw new factions forming, though I wish WoW had followed up on these more than it did. The age-old alliance of Elves and Men shatters, and the now-fallen High Elves join up with the Naga (fallen Night Elves) and the Draenei (or at least a faction that WoW tells us is fallen as well) to serve the fallen Illidan. The Night Elves start to divide into factions between Tyrande and Maiev with Malf trying to hold things together. The Undead split into three groups. And in the bonus campaign the Horde begins to reform as tensions with the Alliance begin again to arise...


Man, that was an awesome game. WC4 would really have to tear the world apart and put it back together again to match up to that.

Making me want to replay the campaign
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
August 10 2015 15:21 GMT
#1409
GosuGamers was my source of WC3 and wc3 DotA.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
August 10 2015 18:06 GMT
#1410
readmore.de is a german esportswebsite that still covers Wc3 a lot and featueres a lot of wc3 streamers, also the ones who play on Douyutv instead of twitch. it also shows the startingtimes of the games on the right side, which can be easily used for nongermans aswell
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
August 10 2015 19:20 GMT
#1411
Follow Back2Warcraft on so social media sites for esport coverage in Warcraft 3. They have still alot of content, there are a view cups still played out.
Their Youtube-Account has also alot of VoDs and Interviews.

As War3Arena is your first adress to play the game, you should visit their side for contact with other players.
Readmore if you can speak german a bit, so you can navigate their calendar.
Simplified chinese for douyutv and chinese war3 sites.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4165 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-10 19:39:51
August 10 2015 19:34 GMT
#1412
Is there a pedia for WC3 with details on tournament standings? That's what I'd like more than anything to get a sense of history of the players I have been watching this weekend.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
August 10 2015 21:19 GMT
#1413
On August 11 2015 04:20 Clonester wrote:
Follow Back2Warcraft on so social media sites for esport coverage in Warcraft 3. They have still alot of content, there are a view cups still played out.
Their Youtube-Account has also alot of VoDs and Interviews.

As War3Arena is your first adress to play the game, you should visit their side for contact with other players.
Readmore if you can speak german a bit, so you can navigate their calendar.
Simplified chinese for douyutv and chinese war3 sites.


War3arena doesn't have a us server anymore which is my issue. US west is playable from Australia but ping to EU servers climbs to 350 odd. Just not doable.

There's no war3 esports wiki that I know of but I'd be happy to contribute to one if anyone is interested in starting something up.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
August 10 2015 21:42 GMT
#1414
On August 11 2015 06:19 Amarok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 04:20 Clonester wrote:
Follow Back2Warcraft on so social media sites for esport coverage in Warcraft 3. They have still alot of content, there are a view cups still played out.
Their Youtube-Account has also alot of VoDs and Interviews.

As War3Arena is your first adress to play the game, you should visit their side for contact with other players.
Readmore if you can speak german a bit, so you can navigate their calendar.
Simplified chinese for douyutv and chinese war3 sites.


War3arena doesn't have a us server anymore which is my issue. US west is playable from Australia but ping to EU servers climbs to 350 odd. Just not doable.

There's no war3 esports wiki that I know of but I'd be happy to contribute to one if anyone is interested in starting something up.


Yeah the playerbase on US is so small, all concentrates on China and EU with a small little village called Korea.
I dont even know on which server the chinese play, but you should try to find out and connect to theirs, I think your ping should be way better then to W3A (and they have insanely strong players there). The server is named YY and I dont know how to install as its a pain in the ass to play from Europe to China.

You can use the War 3 Subreddit, it is not really active, some posts a week, but they have schedule on the right side so you see some of the next events like Gera Cup. https://www.reddit.com/r/WC3/
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
B2W.Neo
Profile Joined July 2015
287 Posts
August 11 2015 09:50 GMT
#1415
On August 11 2015 06:19 Amarok wrote:
There's no war3 esports wiki that I know of but I'd be happy to contribute to one if anyone is interested in starting something up.


that'd be awesome. tell me how i can help if you're setting something up
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 11:40:45
August 12 2015 11:34 GMT
#1416
Gamescom 2015: Blizzard Will 'Consider Warcraft' RTS Once StarCraft 2 is Done
While StarCraft 3 is another possibility.

Quote from producer Tim Morten :

"It’s very rewarding for us to hear that there’s demand out there for more RTS content in the Warcraft universe so once we’re done with Void I think we’ll get together as a team and talk about what would inspire us to work on next. There’s no question, though, that we’ll consider Warcraft, StarCraft, or even new ideas. Anything is possible."

Other good stuff on the link

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/08/12/gamescom-2015-blizzard-will-consider-warcraft-rts-once-starcraft-2-is-done?utm_campaign=fbposts&utm_source=facebook

My thoughts :

FUCK YES ! Even though it aint no confirmation , I'm glad they have it on their minds , and they should focus on finishing the Sc2 trilogy and make sure it's a good game , then and only then , go for Warcraft 4 if they choose to.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4165 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 11:43:10
August 12 2015 11:40 GMT
#1417
I thought that was obvious? There's no point in having 2 teams working on RTSes at the same time.

We can only hope Blizzard doesn't abandon RTS because everything else sells so much better.

Brood War sells 11 million, WC3 sells 5 million, SC2 sells 6 million and then D3 sells 30 million, and Hearthstone reportedly makes 20million dollars a month

I think the first we'll heard of a WC4 if thats the direction they're gonna go with is 2019? 2020?

It's a common topic, but if and when they do it, how much hero design is going to change, obviously MOBAs will have some type of influence in design, but they can't be too fancy since you'll be controlling 3+ heroes?
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
August 12 2015 11:43 GMT
#1418
On August 12 2015 20:40 lestye wrote:
I thought that was obvious? There's no point in having 2 teams working on RTSes at the same time.

We can only hope Blizzard doesn't abandon RTS because everything else sells so much better.

Brood War sells 15 million, WC3 sells 5 million, SC2 sells 6 million and then D3 sells 30 million.

I think the first we'll heard of a WC4 if thats the direction they're gonna go with is 2019? 2020?


Yeah man it is obvious , the point on having 1 RTS team working 2 games and I agree with that completely , I'm just happy that their RTS team has the idea in their heads , and they can see how much the fan base wants this to happen.

Like you said I was also worried that Blizzard would just drop RTS and we would never see Wc4 or even an Sc3 for that matter.

yeah that timeline seems alright , I'm gonna enjoy playing Wc4 with my kids :D
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
August 12 2015 11:46 GMT
#1419
I don't even think I want WC4 anymore.

I want another RTS for sure, but something new. Bring me the Overwatch of RTS. A new game with a new universe and new ideas.
I like words.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4165 Posts
August 12 2015 12:01 GMT
#1420
On August 12 2015 20:46 Spaylz wrote:
I don't even think I want WC4 anymore.

I want another RTS for sure, but something new. Bring me the Overwatch of RTS. A new game with a new universe and new ideas.


I honestly think that could be the way to go. I think a problem with making a sequel to Starcraft/Warcraft, is people will keep making the comparison to the previous game whenever you want to do something new or different.

It's kinda like a dilemna in working in a franchise.

You want to do something new to keep things interesting, but if it's too off the wall, you lose what made the previous game great and those fans might be disappointed.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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