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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
March 16 2020 19:05 GMT
#4421
On March 17 2020 03:03 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2020 02:11 Xain0n wrote:
On March 16 2020 23:37 Excludos wrote:
On March 16 2020 22:55 B2W.Neo wrote:
thanks for posting the same shit here and on our fb so i know who you are can finally ban you there as well.


Dude..wtf? This is an inexcusable type of behaviour. You're taking legit feedback and throwing it in people's faces as bans. If this is how you guys treat your eager and avid viewers then count me out as one. What a disappointment


That's your idea of "legit feedback"? Reiterated insinuations and insults?

Wc3 fans here on TL have decided using Reforged Graphics is the worst possible crime and trespassed any reasonable discussion accordingly.


Yes.

Show nested quote +
I wish B2W guys acknowledge their mistakes about this topic and maybe apologize a bit? Would be nice.


This is legit feedback. Negative feedback is legit too, yes even the ones where you are called names. It means someone is unhappy. Banning people "over on facebook" because they made an unhappy post is beyond low, and such behaviour would get you fired from most work places. I'm extremely disappointed in how they handle feedback if this is the norm. It also gives complete credence to the part where he mentions people are banned for being unhappy with the reforged graphics.

It's completely unprofessional. If tournament runners want to be stuck up then so be it, I won't be watching.

Personal tastes differ, to me legitimate feedback is any variation of ‘I personally prefer the classic graphics’, if it starts spilling over into stuff like accusations of shilling for Blizzard and selling out and what have, why tolerate that necessarily? At least on your own Facebook page or what have you.

Frankly, again personal preference I’m perfectly happy with B2W to respond as they have here. Probably evidence that I have no future in any kind of forward facing PR role mind haha


'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4228 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-16 21:43:17
March 16 2020 21:36 GMT
#4422
On March 16 2020 22:55 B2W.Neo wrote:
thanks for posting the same shit here and on our fb so i know who you are can finally ban you there as well.

Incredibly petty, but fine with me. Just a bit weird how You got suddenly really touchy about all that Reforged shit.

at least you finally understood your mistake and made a good decision to go back to classic graphics.

Keep up the good work, cheers.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8230 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-16 22:14:36
March 16 2020 22:13 GMT
#4423
On March 17 2020 04:05 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2020 03:03 Excludos wrote:
On March 17 2020 02:11 Xain0n wrote:
On March 16 2020 23:37 Excludos wrote:
On March 16 2020 22:55 B2W.Neo wrote:
thanks for posting the same shit here and on our fb so i know who you are can finally ban you there as well.


Dude..wtf? This is an inexcusable type of behaviour. You're taking legit feedback and throwing it in people's faces as bans. If this is how you guys treat your eager and avid viewers then count me out as one. What a disappointment


That's your idea of "legit feedback"? Reiterated insinuations and insults?

Wc3 fans here on TL have decided using Reforged Graphics is the worst possible crime and trespassed any reasonable discussion accordingly.


Yes.

I wish B2W guys acknowledge their mistakes about this topic and maybe apologize a bit? Would be nice.


This is legit feedback. Negative feedback is legit too, yes even the ones where you are called names. It means someone is unhappy. Banning people "over on facebook" because they made an unhappy post is beyond low, and such behaviour would get you fired from most work places. I'm extremely disappointed in how they handle feedback if this is the norm. It also gives complete credence to the part where he mentions people are banned for being unhappy with the reforged graphics.

It's completely unprofessional. If tournament runners want to be stuck up then so be it, I won't be watching.

Personal tastes differ, to me legitimate feedback is any variation of ‘I personally prefer the classic graphics’, if it starts spilling over into stuff like accusations of shilling for Blizzard and selling out and what have, why tolerate that necessarily? At least on your own Facebook page or what have you.

Frankly, again personal preference I’m perfectly happy with B2W to respond as they have here. Probably evidence that I have no future in any kind of forward facing PR role mind haha


Oh neither would I. I'm not capable of staying diplomatic when I get frustrated or annoyed. That's why I'm a programmer and not a PR rep as well

I used to work in sales tho. I remember telling one of our customers to go fuck themselves after lashing out to me for 15 minutes straight over something neither I nor anyone else could possibly have any control over. How I didn't get in trouble for that is beyond me.

I understand how good it feels, I really do. But it's petty and not a good look.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
March 19 2020 00:10 GMT
#4424
New patch is out with various bug fixes, including desyncs apparently.

Zug Zug!
Just a quick note to let everyone know that we have a dedicated team here focused on Warcraft III. Alongside our continued efforts to bring monthly patches with bug fixes and quality of life changes, the team is prioritizing delivering features like Ranked Ladders, Profiles, Clans, and Custom Campaigns. We’ll continue to share more details as those features are nearing release, but know we’re here and hard at work on the game.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/warcraft-iii-reforged-version-1323-patch-notes/22869
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15726 Posts
March 19 2020 02:04 GMT
#4425
On March 19 2020 09:10 TheDwf wrote:
New patch is out with various bug fixes, including desyncs apparently.

Show nested quote +
Zug Zug!
Just a quick note to let everyone know that we have a dedicated team here focused on Warcraft III. Alongside our continued efforts to bring monthly patches with bug fixes and quality of life changes, the team is prioritizing delivering features like Ranked Ladders, Profiles, Clans, and Custom Campaigns. We’ll continue to share more details as those features are nearing release, but know we’re here and hard at work on the game.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/warcraft-iii-reforged-version-1323-patch-notes/22869

I'm hoping after going back to classic b2w will hesitate to go back to reforged. It's been so nice being able to easily follow things and everything not looking like dog shit. Everyone showered them with praise after going back to classic lol.
JohnDelaney
Profile Joined November 2019
Ireland73 Posts
March 19 2020 02:12 GMT
#4426
Requiring 1.5GB for a patch with relatively minor changes suggests they really rushed the software architecture design of Reforged when they first started working on it. Activision Blizzard was too stingy and now they're paying the price with this inflexible mess.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15726 Posts
March 19 2020 02:25 GMT
#4427
On March 19 2020 11:12 JohnDelaney wrote:
Requiring 1.5GB for a patch with relatively minor changes suggests they really rushed the software architecture design of Reforged when they first started working on it. Activision Blizzard was too stingy and now they're paying the price with this inflexible mess.


"gIvE iT tImE"
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
March 19 2020 03:21 GMT
#4428
On March 19 2020 11:12 JohnDelaney wrote:
Requiring 1.5GB for a patch with relatively minor changes suggests they really rushed the software architecture design of Reforged when they first started working on it. Activision Blizzard was too stingy and now they're paying the price with this inflexible mess.

Not necessarily. DotA2 also makes me download patches bigger than 1GB just to get the new version that certainly doesn't have 1GB worth of content.

You are downloading the re-compiled versions of files, so even a small change to a few lines of code results in a new file that must be re-downloaded.
The original Bogus fan.
JohnDelaney
Profile Joined November 2019
Ireland73 Posts
March 19 2020 03:57 GMT
#4429
On March 19 2020 12:21 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2020 11:12 JohnDelaney wrote:
Requiring 1.5GB for a patch with relatively minor changes suggests they really rushed the software architecture design of Reforged when they first started working on it. Activision Blizzard was too stingy and now they're paying the price with this inflexible mess.

Not necessarily. DotA2 also makes me download patches bigger than 1GB just to get the new version that certainly doesn't have 1GB worth of content.

You are downloading the re-compiled versions of files, so even a small change to a few lines of code results in a new file that must be re-downloaded.

By comparison patch 1.27a was only 57MB. The DotA2 community is used to gigabyte-large patches from the devs changing some lines of code, but Warcraft 3 players are not yet. If you point out the large patches in DotA2, the DotA2 players respond with "just get better internet bro, 1GB is nothing." It will take time, maybe about a year, for Activision Blizzard to normalise these oversized patches so that whatever community is left of Reforged will start to mimic the "just get better internet bro" attitude of DotA2 players.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51509 Posts
March 19 2020 06:59 GMT
#4430
so apparently there's some drama in the russian community where happy is trying to claim money donated to him from a stolen paypal account. what the fuck is going on?
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
March 19 2020 07:04 GMT
#4431
On March 19 2020 12:57 JohnDelaney wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2020 12:21 Turbovolver wrote:
On March 19 2020 11:12 JohnDelaney wrote:
Requiring 1.5GB for a patch with relatively minor changes suggests they really rushed the software architecture design of Reforged when they first started working on it. Activision Blizzard was too stingy and now they're paying the price with this inflexible mess.

Not necessarily. DotA2 also makes me download patches bigger than 1GB just to get the new version that certainly doesn't have 1GB worth of content.

You are downloading the re-compiled versions of files, so even a small change to a few lines of code results in a new file that must be re-downloaded.

By comparison patch 1.27a was only 57MB. The DotA2 community is used to gigabyte-large patches from the devs changing some lines of code, but Warcraft 3 players are not yet. If you point out the large patches in DotA2, the DotA2 players respond with "just get better internet bro, 1GB is nothing." It will take time, maybe about a year, for Activision Blizzard to normalise these oversized patches so that whatever community is left of Reforged will start to mimic the "just get better internet bro" attitude of DotA2 players.

Don't get me wrong, I agree. In Australia I have unlimited net, but it sure isn't particularly fast.
And I can't imagine being told bullshit like that if people are on a not unlimited plan.
As a bonus, when I googled to try to better research why they set it up that way, I ran into a bunch more of those toxic attitudes in the process.

I don't know enough about common practise in the industry (I do scientific computing which isn't really "real" programming) to know how reasonable it is to go the DotA route, though. The argument that re-compiled code means re-downloading compiled files at least makes a basic sense to me though.
The original Bogus fan.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4228 Posts
March 19 2020 09:40 GMT
#4432
On March 19 2020 11:04 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2020 09:10 TheDwf wrote:
New patch is out with various bug fixes, including desyncs apparently.

Zug Zug!
Just a quick note to let everyone know that we have a dedicated team here focused on Warcraft III. Alongside our continued efforts to bring monthly patches with bug fixes and quality of life changes, the team is prioritizing delivering features like Ranked Ladders, Profiles, Clans, and Custom Campaigns. We’ll continue to share more details as those features are nearing release, but know we’re here and hard at work on the game.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/warcraft-iii-reforged-version-1323-patch-notes/22869

I'm hoping after going back to classic b2w will hesitate to go back to reforged. It's been so nice being able to easily follow things and everything not looking like dog shit. Everyone showered them with praise after going back to classic lol.

don't say that too loudly.. you might get banned or something..

anyways, imo this is a non-patch again. Shame that it breaks the "old version" replays, too.. I mean is it really that hard to make things work..?

Well.. at least the naga "footprints" are made right again.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4228 Posts
March 19 2020 09:42 GMT
#4433
On March 19 2020 15:59 GTR wrote:
so apparently there's some drama in the russian community where happy is trying to claim money donated to him from a stolen paypal account. what the fuck is going on?

yeah, he pulled out of streaming on gg.ru because of that
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
RandomPlayer416
Profile Joined January 2019
84 Posts
March 20 2020 20:07 GMT
#4434
I find it so hard to believe how far gone blizzard is. The more they work on the game the worse it gets. Is there no one in this community that can get the message across to these guys?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
March 20 2020 21:25 GMT
#4435
On March 21 2020 05:07 RandomPlayer416 wrote:
I find it so hard to believe how far gone blizzard is. The more they work on the game the worse it gets. Is there no one in this community that can get the message across to these guys?

I’m inclined to believe the team is just totally underfunded and are well aware of issues, they just can’t fix them.

Shame really, hell if ever there is a time to properly patch a video game it’s when vast swathes of the populace are going into lockdown.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17585 Posts
March 22 2020 00:41 GMT
#4436
On March 21 2020 06:25 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 05:07 RandomPlayer416 wrote:
I find it so hard to believe how far gone blizzard is. The more they work on the game the worse it gets. Is there no one in this community that can get the message across to these guys?

I’m inclined to believe the team is just totally underfunded and are well aware of issues, they just can’t fix them.

Shame really, hell if ever there is a time to properly patch a video game it’s when vast swathes of the populace are going into lockdown.


I'm inclined to believe that ActiBlizz has deemed this project a failure and put a lid on it with no intention of ever fixing it. They got their money from pre-orders and they're good with leaving it at that.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10688 Posts
March 22 2020 01:34 GMT
#4437
On March 22 2020 09:41 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2020 06:25 Wombat_NI wrote:
On March 21 2020 05:07 RandomPlayer416 wrote:
I find it so hard to believe how far gone blizzard is. The more they work on the game the worse it gets. Is there no one in this community that can get the message across to these guys?

I’m inclined to believe the team is just totally underfunded and are well aware of issues, they just can’t fix them.

Shame really, hell if ever there is a time to properly patch a video game it’s when vast swathes of the populace are going into lockdown.


I'm inclined to believe that ActiBlizz has deemed this project a failure and put a lid on it with no intention of ever fixing it. They got their money from pre-orders and they're good with leaving it at that.

Sounds familiar... -_-
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Quakecomm
Profile Joined April 2012
United States344 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-22 22:43:27
March 22 2020 22:43 GMT
#4438
Does anyone know how to force black-bars 4:3 on a 16x9 monitor in the reforged client? Changing the resolution to 4:3 in the config file results in stretch 4:3.
gorkey island is the only good map
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51509 Posts
March 23 2020 05:13 GMT
#4439
might be in your monitor settings where you can mess with the aspect ratio.
Commentator
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4228 Posts
March 28 2020 14:19 GMT
#4440
all western final of the WGL Summer 2020 March Open Qualifiers, now that's impressive! I don't think we ever had a western player making the finals and we have 2 this time around

Foggy (NE) vs (HU) HawK

where Foggy beat WFZ (UD) 3-2 and HawK beat 120 (UD) 3-1 in the semis

Nice.
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