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Subflow
Profile Joined August 2016
52 Posts
May 24 2019 12:26 GMT
#3581
https://playwarcraft3.com/de-de/
(sorry i can only find the german version)
Under the section 'improved game balance' they literally say, that there will be hundreds of gameplay changes...
So imo we will get a totally new game anyway...
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27473 Posts
May 24 2019 12:36 GMT
#3582
On May 24 2019 21:26 Subflow wrote:
https://playwarcraft3.com/de-de/
(sorry i can only find the german version)
Under the section 'improved game balance' they literally say, that there will be hundreds of gameplay changes...
So imo we will get a totally new game anyway...

Hopefully not, they’re possibly overstating/overcounting changes to make it seem more ‘new’ and worth getting?

I wouldn’t discount it as a possibility that they change tons of the game either though, I suppose it’s a matter of waiting until we get more concrete information.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Subflow
Profile Joined August 2016
52 Posts
May 24 2019 15:18 GMT
#3583
The new Changes on the PTR, especially for undead (rework of Necromancer and a new item in shop), indicate drastic changes though.
I am pretty sure we will get at least one new Tavern Hero, if not more.
But dont get me wrong, I think changes to Balance and Meta are a good thing, it will bring fresh wind and maybe new strategies. I Just hope they keep Pathfinding 99,9% untoched, because the last thing we need in wc3 is clumping units like in sc2, like other stated before.
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
May 24 2019 15:25 GMT
#3584
More competitive Undead and less BM-dependant Orc is my wish.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27473 Posts
May 24 2019 15:35 GMT
#3585
On May 25 2019 00:18 Subflow wrote:
The new Changes on the PTR, especially for undead (rework of Necromancer and a new item in shop), indicate drastic changes though.
I am pretty sure we will get at least one new Tavern Hero, if not more.
But dont get me wrong, I think changes to Balance and Meta are a good thing, it will bring fresh wind and maybe new strategies. I Just hope they keep Pathfinding 99,9% untoched, because the last thing we need in wc3 is clumping units like in sc2, like other stated before.

I don’t see why they’d give themselves the effort along with everything else.

Regardless of whether it’s ‘good’ or not, they’d basically have to rebalance the entire game if they alter fundamental unit behaviours in that way.

I mean imagine how ridiculously strong rifle/caster with a few mortars would be if the rifles clump up and pump out DPS more easily, and mortars are firing at your opponents units that now naturally clump.

It’s a long time ago now but Grubby’s videos about the subject indicate that they were pretty concerned about getting all the small things about feel as close to the original as possible.

Things could have changed in the interim but at least based on that I wouldn’t see anything radical at all in the domain of big pathing changes or unlimited unit selection.

I would like a few more tavern heroes that would be cool.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4300 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-24 17:36:03
May 24 2019 17:35 GMT
#3586
On May 25 2019 00:25 Xain0n wrote:
More competitive Undead and less BM-dependant Orc is my wish.

then plAy the game right now, because this is exactly what we have now

this is not 2012 anymore ; )
Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
May 24 2019 18:39 GMT
#3587
On May 25 2019 02:35 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 00:25 Xain0n wrote:
More competitive Undead and less BM-dependant Orc is my wish.

then plAy the game right now, because this is exactly what we have now

this is not 2012 anymore ; )


Well, we are on the right path but Orcs are not winning at the moment while 120 is the only top tier Undead if we exclude Europe.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27473 Posts
May 24 2019 18:42 GMT
#3588
How’s the balance at lower levels incidentally?

Been over a decade since I played ladder at all, and I’ve obly really watched really good players since I started getting back into the scene.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
May 24 2019 18:48 GMT
#3589
On May 25 2019 03:42 Wombat_NI wrote:
How’s the balance at lower levels incidentally?

Been over a decade since I played ladder at all, and I’ve obly really watched really good players since I started getting back into the scene.



Undead wrecking everyone and/or NE op I guess.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27473 Posts
May 24 2019 18:55 GMT
#3590
On May 25 2019 03:48 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 03:42 Wombat_NI wrote:
How’s the balance at lower levels incidentally?

Been over a decade since I played ladder at all, and I’ve obly really watched really good players since I started getting back into the scene.



Undead wrecking everyone and/or NE op I guess.

Why am I always destined to pick races I think are cool but are the hated races?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Xain0n
Profile Joined November 2018
Italy3963 Posts
May 24 2019 19:09 GMT
#3591
On May 25 2019 03:55 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 03:48 Xain0n wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:42 Wombat_NI wrote:
How’s the balance at lower levels incidentally?

Been over a decade since I played ladder at all, and I’ve obly really watched really good players since I started getting back into the scene.



Undead wrecking everyone and/or NE op I guess.

Why am I always destined to pick races I think are cool but are the hated races?


Undead are loved as far as I can see, they are just very strong at lower level of plays(and sadly underpowered at pro level most of the times).
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4300 Posts
May 24 2019 21:52 GMT
#3592
On May 25 2019 03:39 Xain0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 02:35 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On May 25 2019 00:25 Xain0n wrote:
More competitive Undead and less BM-dependant Orc is my wish.

then plAy the game right now, because this is exactly what we have now

this is not 2012 anymore ; )


Well, we are on the right path but Orcs are not winning at the moment while 120 is the only top tier Undead if we exclude Europe.

orcs doing badly because of NE. That matchup is just so fucking ridiculous it's beyond funny atm.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
May 26 2019 06:50 GMT
#3593
On May 25 2019 06:52 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 03:39 Xain0n wrote:
On May 25 2019 02:35 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On May 25 2019 00:25 Xain0n wrote:
More competitive Undead and less BM-dependant Orc is my wish.

then plAy the game right now, because this is exactly what we have now

this is not 2012 anymore ; )


Well, we are on the right path but Orcs are not winning at the moment while 120 is the only top tier Undead if we exclude Europe.

orcs doing badly because of NE. That matchup is just so fucking ridiculous it's beyond funny atm.


There's not really any standout Orc players atm. Lyn is in what qualifies as a slump by his standards. Fly100% has disappeared as a force. Focus is still a force offline and takes out cups semi regularly. Lyn Guagua and Hug aren't quite there yet.

Who knows what the new patch will do to the meta anyway.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
B2W.Neo
Profile Joined July 2015
287 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-28 20:32:04
May 28 2019 20:31 GMT
#3594


Patch 1.31 Notes leaked, update later:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/1-31-0-patch-notes/5721
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
May 29 2019 00:08 GMT
#3595
watching apac finals - why is revenant playing orc? thought he was an UD player.
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cha0
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada518 Posts
May 29 2019 03:30 GMT
#3596
From the patch notes: "That means AT will return with Reforged, not before." I just can't comprehend this at all. They took something that was working fine, gutted it, and then have been unable to fix/put it back in? I refuse to believe there is a reason besides incompetence on their part with regards to this.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-29 19:05:29
May 29 2019 18:54 GMT
#3597
odd thing has been happening since new patch.. when i reinstall i can play, but when i set my settings all to low game crashes when i try to start a game, multi or single player..

edit: when i set all my settings to high, i can play again. any ideas?? wtf?? i will continue testing to isolate the setting that is doing it

edit2: it seems when i set "texture quality" to low, the game will crash when i try to make a game. setting it to medium does not crash the game so i will use that setting. will continue to post with more info. anyone else with low qual cpu's experiencing this??

edit 3: confirmed. the only video option that has any effect is the 'texture quality' so as a all-low user i am using everything on low/off but "texture quality" to medium
get rich or die mining
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
May 29 2019 19:03 GMT
#3598
On May 29 2019 12:30 cha0 wrote:
From the patch notes: "That means AT will return with Reforged, not before." I just can't comprehend this at all. They took something that was working fine, gutted it, and then have been unable to fix/put it back in? I refuse to believe there is a reason besides incompetence on their part with regards to this.

i agree. AT wasn't matching people and it was littered with weird bugs.. like i can host but only for these people or i can host but this person can't join. instead of fixing it they just shut the whole thing down like it's a FEATURE TO COME.
get rich or die mining
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B2W.Neo
Profile Joined July 2015
287 Posts
May 29 2019 19:43 GMT
#3599
It's finally online! Our interview with Warcraft3.info's sTxReforged

Maybe our most open and honest interview to date, talking about our origin, experiences in China, our hopes for Warcraft III: Reforged​ and much much more!

https://warcraft3.info/articles/272/behind-the-curtains-an-interview-with-back2warcraft
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-31 18:46:48
May 31 2019 18:44 GMT
#3600
On May 30 2019 04:43 B2W.Neo wrote:
It's finally online! Our interview with Warcraft3.info's sTxReforged

Maybe our most open and honest interview to date, talking about our origin, experiences in China, our hopes for Warcraft III: Reforged​ and much much more!

https://warcraft3.info/articles/272/behind-the-curtains-an-interview-with-back2warcraft

are you the caster neo?

edit: i am just going to assume you are.

thanks so much for the wc3 content! you and remo are the tastosis of wc3 as far as i'm concerned. love your channel and love your casts and hope the wc3 scene continues to thrive and that you will always have this job!

also, why no hu players
get rich or die mining
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