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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
November 03 2018 11:15 GMT
#3321
On November 03 2018 05:04 TaShadan wrote:
The new graphics are not convincing. Actually the Modding team of Armies of Azeroth did a better job.

This essentially is an early alpha version. Grubby and the dev on b2w stream said about a dozen on times that graphics in particular will change, and they are hoping for specific feedback what exactly people would like to have differently.
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
November 03 2018 12:25 GMT
#3322
On November 03 2018 19:13 Technique wrote:
Was really hyped yesterday, but now taking a step back it's actually quite disappointing, literally just a small graphics update.

So you can just take this as a nice activity boost, that bout it.

Hopefully EA will be more ambitious with their cnc remasters.


Also a better map editor.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10093 Posts
November 03 2018 13:06 GMT
#3323
suuuuuper hyped!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1978 Posts
November 03 2018 13:22 GMT
#3324
On November 03 2018 20:15 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2018 05:04 TaShadan wrote:
The new graphics are not convincing. Actually the Modding team of Armies of Azeroth did a better job.

This essentially is an early alpha version. Grubby and the dev on b2w stream said about a dozen on times that graphics in particular will change, and they are hoping for specific feedback what exactly people would like to have differently.


Hopefully.
Total Annihilation Zero
Sr18
Profile Joined April 2006
Netherlands1141 Posts
November 03 2018 13:58 GMT
#3325
The graphics and animations looked utterly unimpressive. An upgrade from the original, sure, but nothing jaw dropping. Consider me disappointed .
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't Park Yeong Min - CJ fighting!
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4137 Posts
November 03 2018 15:51 GMT
#3326
the colours are pale (like sc2). wc3 original has the best colours (more colored) and you get such colours if you set the lighting (shadows aswell i think) on medium/low and not at high/ultra (you can see the difference at sc2).
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 03 2018 16:29 GMT
#3327
Got a WC3 icon in the launcher now. Prepurchase is 30 euros. Pretty steep price imo. Hope it's a better quality product on launch than SC remastered.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 16:50:08
November 03 2018 16:49 GMT
#3328
To be fair.. I'm so disappointed after seeing some models.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

This Arthas was a man. Yes he was young. But wasn't an edgy teenager. He was trying to do what is right.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


This is a boy. United Nations considers every -18 human to be a child. And this is a child. I was expecting a "REEEEE"

I'm disappointed..
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-03 17:39:29
November 03 2018 17:38 GMT
#3329
Heh, yeah his hair is a bit too well conditioned on that model, but Uther does specially call Arthas 'boy' in the campaign so he can't be that old.
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Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
November 03 2018 18:20 GMT
#3330
On November 04 2018 01:49 Aceace wrote:
To be fair.. I'm so disappointed after seeing some models.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

This Arthas was a man. Yes he was young. But wasn't an edgy teenager. He was trying to do what is right.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


This is a boy. United Nations considers every -18 human to be a child. And this is a child. I was expecting a "REEEEE"

I'm disappointed..
Here is the in game model comparison. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Arthas does indeed look way younger.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Aceace
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey1305 Posts
November 03 2018 21:43 GMT
#3331
Yeah. Uther calls him boy at the start of conversation. Because he was angry. But when things get serious later, he stop calling Arthas "boy"

I don't know.. Its just feel weird. His perfect hair, no stubbly facehair... In reveal trailer his mimics and gestures was so immature.

Also his lips are more "kissable" then my wife's
Dün dündür, bugün bugündür. (Yesterday was yesterday, today is today)
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
November 03 2018 21:51 GMT
#3332
On November 04 2018 06:43 Aceace wrote:
Yeah. Uther calls him boy at the start of conversation. Because he was angry. But when things get serious later, he stop calling Arthas "boy"

I don't know.. Its just feel weird. His perfect hair, no stubbly facehair... In reveal trailer his mimics and gestures was so immature.

Also his lips are more "kissable" then my wife's



I think these are easy things to fix though. I agree he should be a little more rugged (or maybe even slowly go from the nicer face at the beginning of the campaign to more rugged towards the end).

I think the heroes could be slightly larger (some of the pictures showed the generic paladin hero being smaller than footmen), but in the actual campaign demo it Arthas seemed properly sized compared to the other units.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
November 03 2018 22:28 GMT
#3333
On November 03 2018 22:58 Sr18 wrote:
The graphics and animations looked utterly unimpressive. An upgrade from the original, sure, but nothing jaw dropping. Consider me disappointed .


There will be cross compatibility with the OG game , so no worries ! dont like the upgrade , play the original
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4186 Posts
November 04 2018 02:01 GMT
#3334
On November 03 2018 07:24 Waxangel wrote:
AFAIK a lot of the original code for BW was lost so they did a ton of reverse engineering to recreate it from scrap? (I could be wrong so feel free to correct me)

The source code wasnt lost, but the original renders were lost. So instead of rerendering the models and making new sprites, they had to make new sprites from scratch.

On November 04 2018 03:20 Weavel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2018 01:49 Aceace wrote:
To be fair.. I'm so disappointed after seeing some models.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

This Arthas was a man. Yes he was young. But wasn't an edgy teenager. He was trying to do what is right.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


This is a boy. United Nations considers every -18 human to be a child. And this is a child. I was expecting a "REEEEE"

I'm disappointed..
Here is the in game model comparison. + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Arthas does indeed look way younger.

With the new bodies he looks early 20s. With the old model.... idk... 30s? Canonically he was in his mid 20s so I think the new model is appropriate.

As a wow fan, im looking forward to see how they're going to change the camaign. The Sunwell is kinda lame in WC3 compared to TBC.

[image loading]
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
SeinGalton
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
South Africa387 Posts
November 04 2018 09:27 GMT
#3335
Known about this through the industry grapevine for a while. Very excited but I thought they'd be further along by now.

Really like the work they've done on the units and buildings so far -- crisp textures, no crazy normal mapping and just the right amount of new detail -- tiny things like bolts and straps and cracks and plates. Maybe the unit animations could be polished -- many of these still look like the old keyframe-to-keyframe-ish anims, and they lack weight: grunts should really look heavy and lumbering, ghouls should skulk and creep. Hard to say how much could be improved here without impacting the game's mechanics or performance or soliciting the ire of purists.

Environments however look really underwhelming to me. Never thought the original WC3's environments looked that hot, but I feel just up-res'ing the existing textures makes it look worse. Personally I'd love for them to adopt the aesthetic they used for Heroes of the the Storm: clean, comparatively desaturated low frequency textures with a painterly feel. Warcraft games can get pretty chaotic and noisy, highly saturated environments never helped. Also think they can reduce the hilliness of their maps by like 75% if not outright -- this soft blanket geology just looks bad and fucks with readability and makes the buildings look weird. Might offend purists though.

Eager to see more.
They're coming to get you, Barbara.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
November 05 2018 04:53 GMT
#3336
Human Arthas acts like an impetuous, rebellious teenager throughout the campaign. I don't mind him looking a bit younger, though I'd like to see some progression as he descends into madness and DK Arthas definitely can't be a pretty boy at all.

Not sure whether to put spoilers around all that.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
blunderfulguy
Profile Blog Joined April 2016
United States1415 Posts
November 05 2018 13:36 GMT
#3337
On November 05 2018 13:53 Amarok wrote:
Human Arthas acts like an impetuous, rebellious teenager throughout the campaign. I don't mind him looking a bit younger, though I'd like to see some progression as he descends into madness and DK Arthas definitely can't be a pretty boy at all.

Not sure whether to put spoilers around all that.

I think when their demo level is The Culling of Stratholme you're fine. xD
Blunder Man doing everything thing a blunder can.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-06 17:46:08
November 06 2018 17:45 GMT
#3338


Worth watching . I really hope back2warcraft becomes huge in the future, they deserve it.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
November 06 2018 19:59 GMT
#3339
B2W is the highest tier of WC3 casting, IMO. As WC3 gets bigger and bigger from Reforged, I hope B2W are showered in dollar bills. The scene owes them so much. WC3 revival in the US is pretty much entirely due to them.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
November 07 2018 10:08 GMT
#3340
B2w got me back into warcraft. I can't give them higher praise than that. So fucking stoked to fall in love with the campaign again!
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