This essentially is an early alpha version. Grubby and the dev on b2w stream said about a dozen on times that graphics in particular will change, and they are hoping for specific feedback what exactly people would like to have differently.

Rodya

546 Posts

November 03 2018 12:25 GMT

#3322

On November 03 2018 19:13 Technique wrote:
Was really hyped yesterday, but now taking a step back it's actually quite disappointing, literally just a small graphics update.

So you can just take this as a nice activity boost, that bout it.

Hopefully EA will be more ambitious with their cnc remasters.

Also a better map editor.

Topin

Peru10116 Posts

November 03 2018 13:06 GMT

#3323

suuuuuper hyped!

TaShadan

Germany1981 Posts

November 03 2018 13:22 GMT

#3324

On November 03 2018 20:15 Mafe wrote:

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Hopefully.

Sr18

Netherlands1141 Posts

November 03 2018 13:58 GMT

#3325

The graphics and animations looked utterly unimpressive. An upgrade from the original, sure, but nothing jaw dropping. Consider me disappointed

Dingodile

4139 Posts

November 03 2018 15:51 GMT

#3326

the colours are pale (like sc2). wc3 original has the best colours (more colored) and you get such colours if you set the lighting (shadows aswell i think) on medium/low and not at high/ultra (you can see the difference at sc2).

FueledUpAndReadyToGo

Netherlands30548 Posts

November 03 2018 16:29 GMT

#3327

Got a WC3 icon in the launcher now. Prepurchase is 30 euros. Pretty steep price imo. Hope it's a better quality product on launch than SC remastered.

Aceace

Turkey1305 Posts

November 03 2018 16:49 GMT

#3328

To be fair.. I'm so disappointed after seeing some models.

+ Show Spoiler +

This Arthas was a man. Yes he was young. But wasn't an edgy teenager. He was trying to do what is right.

+ Show Spoiler +

This is a boy. United Nations considers every -18 human to be a child. And this is a child. I was expecting a "REEEEE"

I'm disappointed..

FueledUpAndReadyToGo

Netherlands30548 Posts

November 03 2018 17:38 GMT

#3329

Heh, yeah his hair is a bit too well conditioned on that model, but Uther does specially call Arthas 'boy' in the campaign so he can't be that old.

Weavel

Finland9223 Posts

November 03 2018 18:20 GMT

#3330

On November 04 2018 01:49 Aceace wrote:
To be fair.. I'm so disappointed after seeing some models.

+ Show Spoiler +

This Arthas was a man. Yes he was young. But wasn't an edgy teenager. He was trying to do what is right.

+ Show Spoiler +

This is a boy. United Nations considers every -18 human to be a child. And this is a child. I was expecting a "REEEEE"

I'm disappointed..

Here is the in game model comparison. + Show Spoiler +

Arthas does indeed look way younger.

Aceace

Turkey1305 Posts

November 03 2018 21:43 GMT

#3331

Yeah. Uther calls him boy at the start of conversation. Because he was angry. But when things get serious later, he stop calling Arthas "boy"

I don't know.. Its just feel weird. His perfect hair, no stubbly facehair... In reveal trailer his mimics and gestures was so immature.

Also his lips are more "kissable" then my wife's

Alventenie

United States2147 Posts

November 03 2018 21:51 GMT

#3332

On November 04 2018 06:43 Aceace wrote:
Yeah. Uther calls him boy at the start of conversation. Because he was angry. But when things get serious later, he stop calling Arthas "boy"

I don't know.. Its just feel weird. His perfect hair, no stubbly facehair... In reveal trailer his mimics and gestures was so immature.

Also his lips are more "kissable" then my wife's

I think these are easy things to fix though. I agree he should be a little more rugged (or maybe even slowly go from the nicer face at the beginning of the campaign to more rugged towards the end).

I think the heroes could be slightly larger (some of the pictures showed the generic paladin hero being smaller than footmen), but in the actual campaign demo it Arthas seemed properly sized compared to the other units.

Tchado

Jordan1831 Posts

November 03 2018 22:28 GMT

#3333

On November 03 2018 22:58 Sr18 wrote:
The graphics and animations looked utterly unimpressive. An upgrade from the original, sure, but nothing jaw dropping. Consider me disappointed

There will be cross compatibility with the OG game , so no worries ! dont like the upgrade , play the original

lestye

United States4208 Posts

November 04 2018 02:01 GMT

#3334

On November 03 2018 07:24 Waxangel wrote:
AFAIK a lot of the original code for BW was lost so they did a ton of reverse engineering to recreate it from scrap? (I could be wrong so feel free to correct me)

The source code wasnt lost, but the original renders were lost. So instead of rerendering the models and making new sprites, they had to make new sprites from scratch.

On November 04 2018 03:20 Weavel wrote:

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Here is the in game model comparison. + Show Spoiler +

Arthas does indeed look way younger.

With the new bodies he looks early 20s. With the old model.... idk... 30s? Canonically he was in his mid 20s so I think the new model is appropriate.

As a wow fan, im looking forward to see how they're going to change the camaign. The Sunwell is kinda lame in WC3 compared to TBC.

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SeinGalton

South Africa387 Posts

November 04 2018 09:27 GMT

#3335

Known about this through the industry grapevine for a while. Very excited but I thought they'd be further along by now.

Really like the work they've done on the units and buildings so far -- crisp textures, no crazy normal mapping and just the right amount of new detail -- tiny things like bolts and straps and cracks and plates. Maybe the unit animations could be polished -- many of these still look like the old keyframe-to-keyframe-ish anims, and they lack weight: grunts should really look heavy and lumbering, ghouls should skulk and creep. Hard to say how much could be improved here without impacting the game's mechanics or performance or soliciting the ire of purists.

Environments however look really underwhelming to me. Never thought the original WC3's environments looked that hot, but I feel just up-res'ing the existing textures makes it look worse. Personally I'd love for them to adopt the aesthetic they used for Heroes of the the Storm: clean, comparatively desaturated low frequency textures with a painterly feel. Warcraft games can get pretty chaotic and noisy, highly saturated environments never helped. Also think they can reduce the hilliness of their maps by like 75% if not outright -- this soft blanket geology just looks bad and fucks with readability and makes the buildings look weird. Might offend purists though.

Eager to see more.

Amarok

Australia2003 Posts

November 05 2018 04:53 GMT

#3336

Human Arthas acts like an impetuous, rebellious teenager throughout the campaign. I don't mind him looking a bit younger, though I'd like to see some progression as he descends into madness and DK Arthas definitely can't be a pretty boy at all.

Not sure whether to put spoilers around all that.

blunderfulguy

United States1415 Posts

November 05 2018 13:36 GMT

#3337

On November 05 2018 13:53 Amarok wrote:
Human Arthas acts like an impetuous, rebellious teenager throughout the campaign. I don't mind him looking a bit younger, though I'd like to see some progression as he descends into madness and DK Arthas definitely can't be a pretty boy at all.

Not sure whether to put spoilers around all that.

I think when their demo level is The Culling of Stratholme you're fine. xD

Musicus

Germany23576 Posts

November 06 2018 17:45 GMT

#3338

Worth watching

. I really hope back2warcraft becomes huge in the future, they deserve it.

Mohdoo

United States15743 Posts

November 06 2018 19:59 GMT

#3339

B2W is the highest tier of WC3 casting, IMO. As WC3 gets bigger and bigger from Reforged, I hope B2W are showered in dollar bills. The scene owes them so much. WC3 revival in the US is pretty much entirely due to them.