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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
October 13 2016 09:05 GMT
#2181
On October 13 2016 11:18 Urth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2016 10:45 Amarok wrote:
On October 12 2016 02:57 Urth wrote:
On October 11 2016 11:52 Arceus wrote:
On October 09 2016 22:34 Wrath wrote:
To me, Orc vs Und was always undead favored. ALWAYS. With mass forst armor and fast undead units with DK unholy aura and DK healing any unit you try to focus. Orc vs Undead was my most hated match up.

There was a time when most great UD players (ReiGn, Luci, Susi, Fov etc.) were forced to retire because UvO was a joke. That was historically the saddest MU, mostly thanks to BM

UvO was really orc favored before players even started using BM.


No it wasn't. Far Seer was really vulnerable to UD nuke and had much more trouble slowing down UD creeping than BM. Tier 2 was tricky but UD wasn't chronically behind so being restricted for a while before T3 wasn't as punishing.

There's no doubt BM made things worse, but UvO was the most imbalanced matchup even before BM became popular.


I'm not so sure about that. Orc vs. NE also used to be incredibly imbalanced, specifically during the time gap between when Moon invented the mass DotT strategy and when Orcs learned to counter it.

That being said, UD units generally fare very poorly against Orc units. Even raiders destroy Fiends, let alone Grunts. The BM just exacerbated all that to the extreme by adding yet another unit capable of tearing through everything Undead have in a few hits.
I like words.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
October 13 2016 10:48 GMT
#2182
Different map hype!

"I'm all for new maps, but this one is the worst ever"-shitstorm in 3,2,1,...
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
October 13 2016 14:22 GMT
#2183
OH SHIT !!!!! 120 vs Foggy !!!!!!!
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-13 15:49:05
October 13 2016 15:47 GMT
#2184
There's a Heroes of the Storm event which features some Warcraft III pros including: So.In, Check, Focus, Remind and Lawliet https://twitter.com/Gclef89/status/786394885859323905?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
October 13 2016 18:49 GMT
#2185
On October 14 2016 00:47 lestye wrote:
There's a Heroes of the Storm event which features some Warcraft III pros including: So.In, Check, Focus, Remind and Lawliet https://twitter.com/Gclef89/status/786394885859323905?ref_src=twsrc^tfw


That's nice , but why is blizzard doing this shit instead of the new patch we were promised a lifetime ago , or maybe.....just maybe.....bring back wc3 to blizzcon or get more involved with the scene.

It seems to me they are doing everything with warcraft instead of working on the game ! a card game , a movie , fucking wow , adding wc3 heroes into HOTS or models into sc2.....but the actual game ? well fuck it XD XD

Btw this is just a noob's qq , non of this is to be taken seriously , I know they are having issues with the old coding , and wc3 back in blizzcon or blizzard directly being involved again as they used to aint happening , but a man can dream can he
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
October 14 2016 04:05 GMT
#2186
I don't see why WC3 at Blizzcon is that far fetched. It probably won't happen but there's a pretty decent pro scene and Blizzcon is the world championship for all the other Blizzard games with a healthy pro scene.
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HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-14 09:19:57
October 14 2016 09:19 GMT
#2187
It would be actually nice to have TFT at Blizzcon, they could do a 4 bracket tournament if they just don't want to spend too much effort/money on it (could be after a korean/chinese/european/rest of the world qualifier, 1 slot each). I'd be happy with it, but maybe not having Blizzard involved too much it's a good thing for wc3 tournaments (seeing how they're messing up with the sc2 scene with way different rules every year)
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
October 14 2016 09:32 GMT
#2188
by that logic they also should have a bw tournament at blizzcon again/too.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4238 Posts
October 14 2016 11:13 GMT
#2189
On October 14 2016 03:49 Tchado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2016 00:47 lestye wrote:
There's a Heroes of the Storm event which features some Warcraft III pros including: So.In, Check, Focus, Remind and Lawliet https://twitter.com/Gclef89/status/786394885859323905?ref_src=twsrc^tfw


That's nice , but why is blizzard doing this shit instead of the new patch we were promised a lifetime ago , or maybe.....just maybe.....bring back wc3 to blizzcon or get more involved with the scene.

It seems to me they are doing everything with warcraft instead of working on the game ! a card game , a movie , fucking wow , adding wc3 heroes into HOTS or models into sc2.....but the actual game ? well fuck it XD XD

Btw this is just a noob's qq , non of this is to be taken seriously , I know they are having issues with the old coding , and wc3 back in blizzcon or blizzard directly being involved again as they used to aint happening , but a man can dream can he

Well to be fair, this isnt like the developer, this is Blizzard Korea holding a special event.

I do hope someday BW/WC3 comes back to Blizzcon, but its becoming more and more unlikely as there are more and more games at Blizzcon. It's already super crowded with 5 games + possibly console overwatch next year if they decide to support it next year.

I'm going to lose my mind if they dont announce their plans for Classic Games this Blizzcon. It already been like a year since they promised the patch, and they flew out guys from the hive workshop and they said they had like 20-30 people working on Classic Games....I really want to see what they're doing.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
October 14 2016 13:48 GMT
#2190
On October 14 2016 18:32 Dingodile wrote:
by that logic they also should have a bw tournament at blizzcon again/too.


Ain't nothin' wrong with dat dawg !
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
October 14 2016 15:10 GMT
#2191
Guys it's starting! https://www.twitch.tv/esl_wc3
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
October 14 2016 15:33 GMT
#2192
On October 15 2016 00:10 HsDLTitich wrote:
Guys it's starting! https://www.twitch.tv/esl_wc3


OH MAN THANKS FOR THE REMINDER !
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11681 Posts
October 14 2016 15:56 GMT
#2193
Thanks for the link and the heads up too

+ Show Spoiler [Infi vs Lyn] +
the second game b/w Infi and Lyn went like wtf
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Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
October 14 2016 16:57 GMT
#2194
On October 15 2016 00:56 c3rberUs wrote:
Thanks for the link and the heads up too

+ Show Spoiler [Infi vs Lyn] +
the second game b/w Infi and Lyn went like wtf


The wholes series was a big WTF man , im still confused.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
October 15 2016 06:54 GMT
#2195
Alright dawgs , Foggy vs 120 tonight , thoughts ?
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
October 15 2016 09:33 GMT
#2196
On October 15 2016 15:54 Tchado wrote:
Alright dawgs , Foggy vs 120 tonight , thoughts ?


I feel pretty confident that 120 is going to roll over Foggy. The bigger mystery is Happy vs. Life. I'd like for Happy to win (and I think he can), but then it would lead to a horribly boring UD vs UD in the next match.
I like words.
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
October 15 2016 10:43 GMT
#2197
I'm sure 120 would make an undead mirror entertaining
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
October 15 2016 10:46 GMT
#2198
On October 15 2016 19:43 HsDLTitich wrote:
I'm sure 120 would make an undead mirror entertaining


Are there any casts of 120 playing an undead mirror ?
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy831 Posts
October 15 2016 13:38 GMT
#2199
On October 15 2016 19:46 Tchado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2016 19:43 HsDLTitich wrote:
I'm sure 120 would make an undead mirror entertaining


Are there any casts of 120 playing an undead mirror ?


I don't know, it's just rare enough to see undead mirrors in pro tournaments
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-15 15:19:40
October 15 2016 15:04 GMT
#2200
I used to play solo tinker in ud mirror. It was always quite entertaining for me, and even quite successful. Though possibly thatnks to the surprise effect.
Anyway, those last weeks were great for wc3, and hoepfully it wont end too soon. Yesterday back2warcraft had a german cast with yaws, which was both funny and insightful.

And today we have ud vs ne twice, which I think might be the most entertaining of matchups.
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