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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10265 Posts
January 29 2016 05:35 GMT
#8881
On January 29 2016 14:34 trifecta wrote:
http://puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=688

poor man's lu bu

Wow.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
January 29 2016 05:43 GMT
#8882
On January 29 2016 13:02 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 12:44 Jayme wrote:
Is that seriously 45k HP on a Ronia team.

Geez the only team I pull those numbers with is D Metatron and that's with double hp boosting leads.


He's pairing with CRonia which has a 2x hp buff so not really.


Damn just looked up some of those Christmas cards and they seem pretty good.
Never Knows Best.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10265 Posts
January 29 2016 05:58 GMT
#8883
+ Show Spoiler [FML] +
[image loading]


By the way, I have been thinking about what leader I should leave in my Team 1 slot that would be the most useful to my pals? A lot of people added me because of my Ronia which I have up 99% of the time as my current team leader (except for when I do Tricolor). All of the following have all their awokens:

Poll: Best pal leader to leave in Team 1 slot?

Lvl 97 +11 Water Deity, Holy Isis (1)
 
100%

Lv. 95 +9 Shiva, the Destroyer (0)
 
0%

Lvl 74 +1 Dark Bell Star Angel, Lumiel (0)
 
0%

Lvl 79 Creator God, Vishnu (0)
 
0%

Lvl Max +33 Awoken Ronia (duplicate) (0)
 
0%

Other (see the rest of my shitty Devils above) (0)
 
0%

1 total votes

Your vote: Best pal leader to leave in Team 1 slot?

(Vote): Lv. 95 +9 Shiva, the Destroyer
(Vote): Lvl 97 +11 Water Deity, Holy Isis
(Vote): Lvl 74 +1 Dark Bell Star Angel, Lumiel
(Vote): Lvl 79 Creator God, Vishnu
(Vote): Lvl Max +33 Awoken Ronia (duplicate)
(Vote): Other (see the rest of my shitty Devils above)


"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 10:11:59
January 29 2016 07:20 GMT
#8884
Eschamali confirmed next godfest. Wallet pain incoming. Also heartache coming when I don't roll her.

Edit: Wooo boy this C10 sure is a doozy. I'm at the point where there are no excuses for not zero stoning everything and I like the challenge it brings. That said this C10 is some sort of fucked up monster that I'm still trying to wrap my head around.

So the order is this . Satan - > Awoken Hino - > DQ Hera -> Vishnu -> Awoken Shiva.

That combination is pretty harsh. Satan is a non issue generally speaking but any stall type teams like Ryuune or Saria are going to need pop actives to kill him. Also, he binds, so I hope your team is good at dealing with those because you kinda want to stall here a bit if you have bigger shields...which you're going to need for Vishnu/Shiva.

Then we go in to Hino who basically tells your skills to fuck off. You want to stall your skills up but don't you dare kill him because your zero stone run just ended right there. The Hino -> DQ Hera path is particularly harsh because you straight can't make any mistakes or you die and Hino likes to mess your board up with his skills so hearts like to go byebye. All of this on a 7x6 board where it's easy to overkill things long before you really want to. Fun stuff.

Then we go in to DQ Hera. She's harmless aside from her preemptive. If you have a team capable of healing 17k hits a turn you can pretty much stall to your heart's content(easier on a 7x6 board) but frankly there aren't many teams that can do that. Unfortunately getting here is kinda rough. You can either delay hino -> push to 1 -> shield -> kill which is quite a lot of actives to throw at this or you can use a multi turn shield, simply kill Hino, and then tank the Hera preempt.

Kill Hera and you got to Vishnu. I hate Vishnu. I think his shield is fine but he's pretty much untankable as they made him hit too hard. The best way to deal with this is hit him for over half his health 1 turn and then finish him the next. I had no problem doing this on a 6x5 board but a 7x6 skyfalls to high hell and ends up doing way over a million damage. Then he just kills you. He has a 33 percent chance to jam hearts and hit for 22k, a 33 percent chance to give you a row of hearts but smack you for 33k, and a 33 percent chance to hit you with the equivalent of a DQ preemptive. This isn't really tankable without a shield so you better do it right in two turns and pray for rngesus to spare you from skyfalls. You could delay here but the dungeon requires so much hp, damage, and recovery that you might not have the necessary sub slots to accommodate for this. I kinda want to shield here, a big one, but that would require me to tank DQ Hera for 10-15 turns and with how skyfall heavy 7x6 are I can't guarantee.

Then you get to Shiva. He also, generally speaking, hits too hard for you to tank. By this time you're probably out of shields and delay. On the upside he has no damage shield so you can just straight kill him. Gotta avoid active based leads unless you have skill delay resist tamas and probably want to avoid fire/wood teams entirely because he's not tankable. Something like YomiDra or Ra Dragon thrive on this last guy because the 7x6 board will probably either activate Ra Dragon or give Yomi enough firepower to kill him. Awoken Sakuya could also manage that pretty easy I suppose.

So my option are Ra Dragon and do something like Indra on floor 2, kill Hino, absorb Hera hit...stall as long as possible and hope to get Indra back up . If not I just have to hope to 2 or 3 turn Vishnu (hard with skyfalls as you want to 64x without two prongs to manage this but any additional damage other than a water skyfall pushes you over a million). I'll probably straight molest Shiva with this team though so if I get to Shiva chances are I'll win.

Yomi Dragon is my other serious option. Diza is a more reliable and quicker to use shield. YomiDra is easier to throttle damage with so avoiding perseverance and staying under 1 million damage is easier. On the other hand I have to use a shit load of actives as Yomi Dragon does significantly less damage than Ra Dragon and with how Shiva works I might simply not get a board that can kill him. Combine that with the way he hits and I just might be flat out of luck unless I add some delay resist on to ...diza or something (EWWW).

I could use Awoken Sakuya too because her damage projection is pretty much from 1 to infinity but she has a much harder time tanking big hits than the two MP dragons do.

It's just annoying how hard Vishnu hits on the back of a DQ Hera preempt and before Shiva. You only have so many shields...there's so much skill delay. I can't even green latent tama Vishnu because I'd need a full set of 20 to do any good.

Blah. I think it's going to come down to a lucky Ra Dragon run over the next few days. Kinda hate that option.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1942 Posts
January 29 2016 11:09 GMT
#8885
how often would you say that you manage to activate radrag's x64?
If you didn't have any board change actives.
I don't believe you.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 29 2016 11:58 GMT
#8886
On January 29 2016 20:09 abuse wrote:
how often would you say that you manage to activate radrag's x64?
If you didn't have any board change actives.


If it's on the board I can activate it without fail. Including stalling requirements for a board that has all six colors I'd say it's fairly close to 80% or so because I more often than not can activate Ra Dragon. It's also fortunate that he is so naturally tank so stalling isn't an issue.

Worst part is probably first turn. I'd say that's probably like a 50% rate. Also Ra Dragon has a benefit of hitting that 9x which is actually a 20.25x...same as Hathor with quite a lot more two prongs to his name and that's a 95% rate on open boards and near enough to 100% with player manipulation.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 12:07:28
January 29 2016 11:59 GMT
#8887
On January 29 2016 14:58 Jealous wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [FML] +
[image loading]


By the way, I have been thinking about what leader I should leave in my Team 1 slot that would be the most useful to my pals? A lot of people added me because of my Ronia which I have up 99% of the time as my current team leader (except for when I do Tricolor). All of the following have all their awokens:


Assuming you just have Ronia up already, probably Isis in another slot is good

Also I have a hyper Lumiel :3
If you ever want to try her out to beat Hera I'll put her up
Be sure to match 4 Dark Orbs in a row to activate her prongs

On the other hand I'm having hard time finding use for her lol
I really wanted a triple prong for my YomiDra team, and she is great for that, but 4 color board is not very good for YomiDra
She really needs another way to fix the board
She pairs extremely well with Akechi, as it give half dark which is around 15 and that really gives you sweet spot for matching 5 then TPAs
Haku+Akechi usually results in way too much dark

I am hesitant though to replace Haku though, since she is bulk of RCV

Yeah C10 looks hard, but C9 looks pretty terrible too
I hate no awakening dungeons ;_;
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 14:47:52
January 29 2016 13:17 GMT
#8888
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And first try first clear no stone

Honestly it was pretty easy
Delay hino
Stall DQ (for delay)
Delay Vishnu
Shield Shiva -> Burst when actives up
Popping shield before Shiva gives you exactly 2 turns which is exactly when actives are up
And bursting on 7x6 is even easier
And I actually didn't roll the delay Lilith lol
It's ok because Alraune best (and not like Lilith was going to do any damage)

And got my last woodpy to skill up Astaroth :>
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 17:57:25
January 29 2016 17:55 GMT
#8889
On January 29 2016 13:11 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 12:19 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Did you never get an Echidna? Delay makes pretty much every not immune boss trivial.

I got one but after fusing 10 times she is still at skill level 1, is low level, and doesn't mesh with my Devil team u_u;

Who is King Baddie?


Even a max level Echidna has poor stats. You take it solely for the active skill. Skilling it only matters if it isn't up when you need it on the boss. The hera level has enough floors that this shouldn't be an issue.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10265 Posts
January 29 2016 18:03 GMT
#8890
On January 29 2016 20:59 JSH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 14:58 Jealous wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [FML] +
[image loading]


By the way, I have been thinking about what leader I should leave in my Team 1 slot that would be the most useful to my pals? A lot of people added me because of my Ronia which I have up 99% of the time as my current team leader (except for when I do Tricolor). All of the following have all their awokens:


Assuming you just have Ronia up already, probably Isis in another slot is good

Also I have a hyper Lumiel :3
If you ever want to try her out to beat Hera I'll put her up
Be sure to match 4 Dark Orbs in a row to activate her prongs

On the other hand I'm having hard time finding use for her lol
I really wanted a triple prong for my YomiDra team, and she is great for that, but 4 color board is not very good for YomiDra
She really needs another way to fix the board
She pairs extremely well with Akechi, as it give half dark which is around 15 and that really gives you sweet spot for matching 5 then TPAs
Haku+Akechi usually results in way too much dark

I just need a better Devil sub than what I currently have T___T;
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
January 29 2016 18:39 GMT
#8891
Go make that King Baddie then.
Liquipedia
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10265 Posts
January 29 2016 19:18 GMT
#8892
On January 30 2016 03:39 Spazer wrote:
Go make that King Baddie then.

I have a Big Baddie ready but I don't have a King Metal Dragon because I didn't think that an Enhance Material would be used for Evo so I fused two away like an hour ago -____-;
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 19:27:28
January 29 2016 19:23 GMT
#8893
On January 30 2016 04:18 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 03:39 Spazer wrote:
Go make that King Baddie then.

I have a Big Baddie ready but I don't have a King Metal Dragon because I didn't think that an Enhance Material would be used for Evo so I fused two away like an hour ago -____-;


Metal dragon urgent is today so you just need to figure out what time you need to run to get one.


Do I farm Devilits for my DKali or do I farm pleggs since it isn't 2.5x skill up anyway ^_^ With skill rotating next week I'm leaning towards pleggs since I don't plan on stoning to finish her.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 19:41:25
January 29 2016 19:31 GMT
#8894
C10 is fairly easy with YomiDra. As long as you don't get boned by skyfall on Kagu or Vishnu you are home free

This C9..... SMH

0 stone c10 and then 3 stone c9 with Awoken MeiMei just because I don't want start over with the struggle.
If I 297ed GZL and had a good G/L option, I could of 0 stone, but since I only had Grodin and I don't have any parv / pers +ed...

If someone has full hyper of AMM, G/L MeiMei, Parv / Pers / Ceres / OdinDra, Susano, GZL, then has a good chance of 0 stone. Or have a good LeiLan team. ShivaDra might work as well? might be sketch
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
January 29 2016 19:59 GMT
#8895
What would be a good leilan team? :/

I was gonna run dmeta and stick ama in lol
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
January 29 2016 20:04 GMT
#8896
No awoken DMeta is pretty weak.

For this prob just a mix of Leilan, Ares, Susano, CaoCao, Tsubaki, since don't need care about row or tpa. Do need a lot + to make RCV not completely shit though.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 20:28:08
January 29 2016 20:10 GMT
#8897
I used Z8 for C9
Worked really well

I spent a stone on Nordis, because I brought Halraune thinking she can unbind me...
Completely forgot about no awakenings for unbindable lol

I should've brought Amaterasu instead and saved myself a stone...
I forgot about other bind clear
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
January 29 2016 20:29 GMT
#8898
Cool.. I have hyper ares, susano, caocao.. 1 skill up from hyper leilan. No tsubaki, no scarlet, do have a hyper rvalk tho
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 23:01:33
January 29 2016 23:00 GMT
#8899
Rofl zero stone first try with YomiDra. Don't know what the fuck I was complaining about. He's way better for dungeons like this. Ra Dragon failed a few times

I ended up using Meimei for C9.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 29 2016 23:08 GMT
#8900
c8 was a joke with yomidra, ill try c9 and c10 later this weekend
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