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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On November 05 2015 03:37 amazingxkcd wrote: so uh, whats the best way to beat the DQ preempt? this the first time i want to go for it Bring a shield and use it before you finish off sowilo. Diza, Susano, Golem, etc etc | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On November 05 2015 04:02 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Bring a shield and use it before you finish off sowilo. Diza, Susano, Golem, etc etc alright, sounds good. | ||
Spazer
Canada8033 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
Also max skilled Halloween Kali after 26 angelits. Not too bad. I can survive a 31 l Hera Preempt with my vanilla Firecat team because eof OP dark resist. The 38k from C10 just flat needs a shield. Or find some way to get my Firecat team to about 30500 hp.. (it's generally at 29790.) | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
also, i should get me a z8. I legit could make a scary z8 team of z8, a.haku, satsuki, diza, something (persephone? a.yomi?)? | ||
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dkpl
Canada1485 Posts
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
Pros: Double haste leaders are really really strong You'll get skills back up in no time and with his ideal subs being haste subs, Diza shield is up all the time This lets tanking a breeze even without latent resists (looking at you Parvati and every dark absorb nonsense) Z8 has better raw stats The 1.21x multiplier actually makes a nice difference More HP that gets even better with plus eggs (although Yomi has high hp too) Z8 recovery is also pretty good. Yomi on the other hand has a really hard time recovering Z8 is much much easier to play Making 5 orb then 7 combos is not easy Even though you have a lot of time extends, this still proves to be difficult unless you have good skills Z8 has better damage spike (potential) While Yomi has better average damage, Z8 can spike super hard if you need him to And with Z8 active up all the time, skillfalls can really rack up the damage Not saying Yomi has bad damage at all, but Z8 can really crunch up those numbers with ease Cons: Hugely dependent on orb changer Unfortunately you need dark orbs, and a lot of them to do any meaningful damage. Minimum atleast 9 to do damage 10~11 = good damage 12+ = OHKO (almost) every boss territory (this is looking like some riichi mahjong point guide lol) A Yomi only needs 5 to clear floors This is helped with the double haste+skyfall leads, but for long dungeons, such as Arena, it can really end your run with dark orb droughts Less damage control X4 -> x16 -> x36 is a huge range Adding tpa to x4 or lack of tpa to x16 or something like that is usually the way to go Z8 damage control is not too bad, but Yomi's is way superior And skyfall can ruin it hard Not as consistent as Yomi Not like any leader is free from orb trolls and bad rng, but as mentioned earlier Z8 needs 9+ orbs to do damage Yomi only needs 5 This is a huge difference and one that requires constant use of actives. Z8 haste system alleviates this pretty well, but not a whole lot can beat Yomi in consistent damage with minimal resources. All things considered Z8 is still great lead It's still my go to for descend farming as honestly, for the skills required, the damage is way too good | ||
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ragz_gt
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On November 06 2015 08:18 ragz_gt wrote: The solution is.... YomiDra, has best of both word, plus unbindable + heartmaker. im too poor for 300k mp, so a.yomi is my only option. but farming jewels  | ||
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dkpl
Canada1485 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
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abuse
Latvia1942 Posts
I just went 1/27 on urd skillups 2/20 on skuld 0/8 on kali Wtf is this | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
Skill ups are struggle enough already ;_; | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On November 06 2015 15:11 JSH wrote: You should really wait for 2.5x skill up Skill ups are struggle enough already ;_; Spoiled. Back in my day everything had to be evod and only with 2x! Like walking both ways up hill in the snow. No but seriously the skill up system is, in my opinion, a horrid flaw in this game. It's so shitty and just anti fun. | ||
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abuse
Latvia1942 Posts
With horrid rates like I already got, I honestly doubt that the extra 5% would change much. so angry. Waited all this time for urd's skill up to come up and now i spent all my fruits and couldn't even get 3 friggin levels to finish my hyper. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On November 06 2015 16:27 abuse wrote: 2x should still be 20%. With horrid rates like I already got, I honestly doubt that the extra 5% would change much. so angry. Waited all this time for urd's skill up to come up and now i spent all my fruits and couldn't even get 3 friggin levels to finish my hyper. Yea that 20% is just low enough that you can be utterly screwed so very easily. That 5% changes it from 1 in 5 to 1 in 4. It actually does tend to make a substantial difference. | ||
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abuse
Latvia1942 Posts
On November 06 2015 18:53 Jayme wrote: Yea that 20% is just low enough that you can be utterly screwed so very easily. That 5% changes it from 1 in 5 to 1 in 4. It actually does tend to make a substantial difference. In my base it would be not 1 in 5 to 1 in 4 but it would be, from 1 in 27 to approx 1 in 22, which still sucks balls | ||
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