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jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
July 03 2015 21:40 GMT
#4621
goddamn thats some bad rng..
ill probably keep trying until its over but I really dont expect to clear this one
Argentina
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
July 03 2015 21:42 GMT
#4622
Heck yeah, finally got the Friday Mythical dungeon on farm, so I'm set for all the regular materials I'll ever need. :D

Now all I ever need to worry about are the Jewels, which are rather frustrating. I have so many green, and so little dark.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
July 03 2015 21:50 GMT
#4623
On July 04 2015 06:40 jinyung2 wrote:
goddamn thats some bad rng..
ill probably keep trying until its over but I really dont expect to clear this one

It's just awkward because I get good results on every other floor with super utility ronia+beelze team (Pandora, lu bu, kushinada, D/L batman delay) but I can't really fit in a defense break too because then I just have 0 damage.

jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-03 23:16:13
July 03 2015 23:11 GMT
#4624
I guess with a tanky team like that fatty is a dead run

dam threedia 2 turn bind
rip lol

On July 04 2015 06:42 Rehio wrote:
Heck yeah, finally got the Friday Mythical dungeon on farm, so I'm set for all the regular materials I'll ever need. :D

Now all I ever need to worry about are the Jewels, which are rather frustrating. I have so many green, and so little dark.

I have a bunch of blue ones I even uevo'd hera-is and I somehow have 5 again weird stuff. red seems to be the rarest for me
Argentina
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-03 23:26:51
July 03 2015 23:24 GMT
#4625
Lol. Decided to yolo it with Ronia x Lu bu damage team and actually cleared it (only because I got D. fagan spawn+ light scale). Got the fagan drop but no zaerog =(. Probably not worth the 1000 whatever stamina I threw at it but still a nice feeling.

Rarest jewels for me are probably blue but I'm perfectly fine with that since I don't plan to really make any blue teams lol.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
July 03 2015 23:33 GMT
#4626
i have very balanced jewels. i used to have a green deficit after i uevo'd parvati, but i got meimei first try on my last 2 gift of the holy beasts, and also rolled a green jewel right after the uevo too.
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-03 23:47:01
July 03 2015 23:41 GMT
#4627
nice! d fagan wrecks me T_T every turn orb change is a nightmare for Ra. some quick calculations, if you were to do 1 run of extreme fat dragon, off color monster exp per run would be around 560k. so 5.6 mil

and around 1000 stamina used for 2 snowglobes is 4mil, so 4 mil + accomplished feeling vs 5.6 mil. your choice

first time i actually looked up what awoken parvati does, unbindable and TPA green :o looks neat
Argentina
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 03 2015 23:48 GMT
#4628
I have 2+ of every jewel just taking up space in my box. Useful for future evos tho but right now taking up space ~_~
Never Knows Best.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-03 23:57:43
July 03 2015 23:55 GMT
#4629
I currently have 27 green jewels.

Saving them for eventual Awoken Meimei skilling because I very much doubt I'll get all the green Pi's I need for Bastet + 3 Meimei. They don't drop, we don't get Pi's for free because "We need a more mature playerbase" (the way to get that is treat NA as second class players YEA), and we don't have ultimate arena...but if I can clear that I don't need more Pi's really.

Yea this will be irritating.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
July 04 2015 00:13 GMT
#4630
lollll here we are talking about our puny jewel counts and jayme comes in

"I currently have 27 green jewels" LOL

also is that actually what they say about free giveaways? mature playerbase? is mature playerbase = a playerbase with more disposable income = NA is stingy?
Argentina
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-04 00:16:59
July 04 2015 00:15 GMT
#4631
On July 04 2015 09:13 jinyung2 wrote:
lollll here we are talking about our puny jewel counts and jayme comes in

"I currently have 27 green jewels" LOL

also is that actually what they say about free giveaways? mature playerbase? is mature playerbase = a playerbase with more disposable income = NA is stingy?


People asked about why the NA stream doesn't give Pi's as prizes and why we get no free pi's at all and the answer was, literally, "the playerbase needs to mature some more."

I don't exactly know what that even means.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 04 2015 00:27 GMT
#4632
27 jewels? what in the world?!? I only have like 4 total...
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
July 04 2015 00:35 GMT
#4633
Lol, you made rewatch that blurp on the vod and even I'm confused now. I thought it might have been about being too early for NA (and since NA has a smaller pbase than JP we can't compare to them getting free Piis)

except it was worded very very questionably.


http://www.twitch.tv/gunghoamerica/v/6635947

@15:07
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 04 2015 00:35 GMT
#4634
On July 04 2015 09:15 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 09:13 jinyung2 wrote:
lollll here we are talking about our puny jewel counts and jayme comes in

"I currently have 27 green jewels" LOL

also is that actually what they say about free giveaways? mature playerbase? is mature playerbase = a playerbase with more disposable income = NA is stingy?


People asked about why the NA stream doesn't give Pi's as prizes and why we get no free pi's at all and the answer was, literally, "the playerbase needs to mature some more."

I don't exactly know what that even means.


Well apparently a lot of NA players suck at making good teams and "play the wrong way" according to some people so maybe that is what they mean? Mature in terms of strat and skill etc.
Never Knows Best.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-04 00:47:52
July 04 2015 00:45 GMT
#4635
On July 04 2015 09:35 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 09:15 Jayme wrote:
On July 04 2015 09:13 jinyung2 wrote:
lollll here we are talking about our puny jewel counts and jayme comes in

"I currently have 27 green jewels" LOL

also is that actually what they say about free giveaways? mature playerbase? is mature playerbase = a playerbase with more disposable income = NA is stingy?


People asked about why the NA stream doesn't give Pi's as prizes and why we get no free pi's at all and the answer was, literally, "the playerbase needs to mature some more."

I don't exactly know what that even means.


Well apparently a lot of NA players suck at making good teams and "play the wrong way" according to some people so maybe that is what they mean? Mature in terms of strat and skill etc.


To be quite frank our top players are very comparable to top jp players. By the time JP was where we are at now they were getting Pi's thrown at them all crazy like. What they must mean is size of the playerbase...but why should that grow when most new people are told they're better off just starting on JP?

Also playerbase size has little to do with advancement in this game. I'm at the point where Pi's are extremely important to my advancement and I have no real way of acquiring them. I've cleared all the challenges since Challenge 3 and I still only have like 6 green Pi's...I need like 18 and I've only used the 2 needed to max skill Ceres

Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
dkpl
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada1485 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-04 00:53:56
July 04 2015 00:45 GMT
#4636
all my jewels still fit on one screen, what a scrub http://imgur.com/W4uQk9A :<

Btw just fyi, JP's gotten around 4-5 of each color Pii for free, I think NA's gotten 1 badpy?
Anopob: also, in between the most familiar parts, necrofantasy is like kekeke and necrofantasia is like bum b um bum
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 04 2015 01:08 GMT
#4637
main issue with the NA/JP thing for Piis is that we're not the target market for Gungho, we're just a "heh, nice extra profit" part. So it really comes down to gungho pandering to their JP market. But as to why we in NA are not getting the fancy schamncy piis, I say we're playing the game in hard mode :D.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
July 04 2015 01:20 GMT
#4638
that logic seems so weird though, going by downloads we are about 1/5th the size of JP's population and for a business I feel like thats a pretty sizeable chunk that they don't want to ignore. I feel like "maturity of playerbase" is referring to amount of money that should be being made from NA but isnt because maybe age group is younger? maybe different cultures of spending? Or NA is just stingy, lots of non-iap pride, not sure if JP has that kind of stuff too? who knows

I feel like gungho could care less about the "right way to play" there's a ton of different ways to play and I think if I were gungho the "right way to play" would be to die 100 times in a dungeon and keep pressing that continue dungeon button :D
Argentina
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
July 04 2015 01:47 GMT
#4639
I've heard JP has a lot more competitors with similar iap systems, so they shower players with more gifts to stay ahead
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-04 02:21:48
July 04 2015 01:53 GMT
#4640
On July 04 2015 10:20 jinyung2 wrote:
that logic seems so weird though, going by downloads we are about 1/5th the size of JP's population and for a business I feel like thats a pretty sizeable chunk that they don't want to ignore. I feel like "maturity of playerbase" is referring to amount of money that should be being made from NA but isnt because maybe age group is younger? maybe different cultures of spending? Or NA is just stingy, lots of non-iap pride, not sure if JP has that kind of stuff too? who knows

I feel like gungho could care less about the "right way to play" there's a ton of different ways to play and I think if I were gungho the "right way to play" would be to die 100 times in a dungeon and keep pressing that continue dungeon button :D


Thing is that you have the whales...people that spend an absolute shit load and Gungho definitely gets most of their profit from this relatively small portion of the player base. I think I probably classify as whale status but I still don't touch the people that spend 65+ rolls on the academy REM just for the Athena.

I'd think compared to JP NA players have probably as much or more disposable income. I don't really think NA is actually really that stingy. We probably complain more...but there are reasons for that. Might be a competition thing. The whole mobile game thing is really big in Japan with a different genre of game that dominates.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
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