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On March 20 2015 20:54 oneofthem wrote:
i think best bet for reliable kotg is just to build up your pandora team. hathor is there though.
Both of those are rem dependent... Hathor more so than Pandora but even then finding decent farmable monsters with dark row enhances is not the easiest. I guess you could run like two Satan but...
I dunno you really want at least one haku and a Sonia to run Pandora. Or persephone + something. Hathor is extremely rem heavy... Like almost on d meta level before she got her ultimate.
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Stop this discussion already, new OP is clearly Goemon ult
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On March 20 2015 21:32 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 20:54 oneofthem wrote:
i think best bet for reliable kotg is just to build up your pandora team. hathor is there though. Both of those are rem dependent... Hathor more so than Pandora but even then finding decent farmable monsters with dark row enhances is not the easiest. I guess you could run like two Satan but... I dunno you really want at least one haku and a Sonia to run Pandora. Or persephone + something. Hathor is extremely rem heavy... Like almost on d meta level before she got her ultimate.
true true. he has a dmeta and a chester though, but no orb changers. does NA have pandora ult evo already, if so 6 rows from pandora + d meta should be enough to kill zeus.
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On March 19 2015 19:36 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 15:48 dkpl wrote:
That rant makes me sad
I'm holding Wukong, DQXQ, Venus (as well as flex options like Raph, Thor, Baal, and Apoc), and I still dont think it's a team worth making. Then again, if I rolled a Fuma, I'd be more inclined to try playing this team lol. I understand your pain. I have all of those with Fuma even and I still get annoyed when I try to play Wukong. He just feels so lackluster compared to Pandora it's not even worth doing it, even with Fuma. I am going to build a light row enhancing L Meta team now though that DQ and Awoken Venus is coming. It's got way more tankability than Wukong does and Sandalphon with a high skill is really strong. Team will run with only 7 row enhances but with a 5 turn 6 second CTW with light enhances and very short cd orb changers all over the place the team should be mad strong. It's also running at above 30k HP with some plus eggs added in with near 8k RCV. I'm already doing insane damage without all the rows. This will just make my meta team that much more powerful. I live to make my favorite Librarian ultra strong. All I've got to do is figure out a way to zero stone some level 10's with her and I'm happy.
I'm still hoping for #MonkeyDream2015
Wukong, DQXQ, Fuma, Valk, Souther/Venus/Thor/Valkitty for last spot would give me 7-10 rows, seems pretty decent.
Problem is that Light gets shafted along with dark without being nearly as powerful...
On the other hand I'm fully embracing the Andro hype ATM.
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On March 20 2015 21:55 -Zoda- wrote:
Stop this discussion already, new OP is clearly Goemon ult
Why did they have to make a completely new AS for him... all that effort I spent to max skill him almost feels like a waste.
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Yeah it's their recent trends in uevos. Although the additions are often nice, it starts to get very expensive in piis. I hope their higher the drop rate for them or somth. They are way too limited in collab monsters for skill ups...
You still can skill up by feeding a lvl maxed monster to another but that's still rather expensive in terms of exp and evo mats...
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It's not an issue when focusing on when team, but kind of tedious if you play 5-6 teams semi regularly
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On March 21 2015 02:23 -Zoda- wrote:
Yeah it's their recent trends in uevos. Although the additions are often nice, it starts to get very expensive in piis. I hope their higher the drop rate for them or somth. They are way too limited in collab monsters for skill ups...
You still can skill up by feeding a lvl maxed monster to another but that's still rather expensive in terms of exp and evo mats...
it has to be a uevo right?
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On March 21 2015 02:23 -Zoda- wrote:
Yeah it's their recent trends in uevos. Although the additions are often nice, it starts to get very expensive in piis. I hope their higher the drop rate for them or somth. They are way too limited in collab monsters for skill ups...
You still can skill up by feeding a lvl maxed monster to another but that's still rather expensive in terms of exp and evo mats...
The pii drop rate is flat stupid. Japanese whale players did a combined 7000 alt dungeons and got 35 drops.
So it's... An average of 1 per 6000 stamina~~, a rate so low that you might not see one for 30000 stamina. It's so freaking low. It would be so much better if the drop rate was some closer to 4 or 5 percent. It's an incentive to really stone those dungeons. The saving grace is that those dungeons are usually very high exp/stam and hand over max level pengdra farming fodder so it doesn't feel like a total waste farming them... Those dungeons just tend to be hard and dying is rather easy in them..
If you focus on more than 1 team it's a nightmare. I'm lucky enough to have the shynpy I need for Venus but that took something close to 4 months to acquire...
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I only run the no dupe pii dungeons that don't have pengdras/evo mats, the +egg rate in those is pretty good and they're worth running even if you never get any piis.
And at least challenge dungeons/descends are becoming more regular now on NA, I've stockpiled like 4 of each color from them.
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i've only ever gotten 1 pii from those dungeons. was a dark one and i fed it to vegeta before they made skillup guys for the dbz monsters
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Nice I was thinking I should try these dungeons lol
Definitely better spend my time gathering fodder.
And yeah, focusing on several teams is my real problem (in every game I think lol), and my tamadra stock just told it to me.
I just enjoy playing different things... or I can't chose. Like should I focus on Kali with her powerful new Uevo or max out my pandora team ? Gadius looks promising but I definitely lack the crucial subs. Now that I got some good fire subs though, should I build a Minerva team ? uuuuuhhhh
My athena team is still quite good, I'd need to max my Apocalypse and add +eggs, but is this really worth compared to the other possibilities ? hmmm don't think so...
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5 tama retreats:
4 tama
4 chibi
12 baby
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oh god i forgot about the tama retreats. just spent stamina farming dublits rofl
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3 tama retreats = 3 tamadras \o/
I did get something like 6 chibidras tho :/
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My new Pandora ate 13 babies to get her awakenings. If she wasn't so cute I'd call her a cruel mistress really. I have like 60 box slots hogged by dark fairies on top of everything else. Cruel girl.
I did get a great on the present egg I fed her though. The instant max level was nice.
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Maxing Pando's skill was a pain. GL with that.
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On March 20 2015 08:16 Jayme wrote:So good news, you have some good options! Bad news, quick farming kotg not so much. Consistently sure but it might not be quick. Light Metatron is one of the best leaders for twinlits and dragon fruits. The teams are completely farmable and extremely safe and consistent. Twinlits starter team is like Meta/echidna/shynee/valk/lilith/friend l meta. You don't even need to be ultimate evod for this as long as you use a high powered Metatron friend... I've got one if you go this route. Dragon fruits is something like Meta/echidna/valk/valk/shynee/friend meta. You want your valks high skilled for this one. You have a UY. Use him to get valk so you can start farming mythical mats. He's also strong enough to get you the materials you need to start building an Awoken Minerva. UY can also farm kotg fairly consistently of you use orochi to stall on Zeus. It simply won't be quick.
Okay thanks for the advice, I'll be farming a couple of valks tomorrow. Is it worth putting any exp onto athena?
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lol ive been doing so much TEC that I got used to the Ok button location when you die and accidentally pressed the yes for continue button during an actual dungeon run lol this game is so mean.. why no confirmation for pressing yes? 
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On March 21 2015 13:31 trifecta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 08:16 Jayme wrote:On March 20 2015 04:58 trifecta wrote:This is my box thus far: https://www.padherder.com/user/trifecta/monsters/any suggestions on what team I should work on building for consistently farming kotg, legendary seaway, mythical evo mats, etc? Thanks So good news, you have some good options! Bad news, quick farming kotg not so much. Consistently sure but it might not be quick. Light Metatron is one of the best leaders for twinlits and dragon fruits. The teams are completely farmable and extremely safe and consistent. Twinlits starter team is like Meta/echidna/shynee/valk/lilith/friend l meta. You don't even need to be ultimate evod for this as long as you use a high powered Metatron friend... I've got one if you go this route. Dragon fruits is something like Meta/echidna/valk/valk/shynee/friend meta. You want your valks high skilled for this one. You have a UY. Use him to get valk so you can start farming mythical mats. He's also strong enough to get you the materials you need to start building an Awoken Minerva. UY can also farm kotg fairly consistently of you use orochi to stall on Zeus. It simply won't be quick. Okay thanks for the advice, I'll be farming a couple of valks tomorrow. Is it worth putting any exp onto athena?
Athena is arguably the most powerful farmable monster in the game both in terms of sub use and leader use. She's quite good really.
Thing is you have to focus initially. L Metatron is a 5mil exp monster and Valk isn't exactly easy on the exp either to get her to her ultimate evo... You won't necessarily waste exp you spend on Athena it can just be put to better use at this very moment.
That said everyone really should have a max level ulted athena in their box. She's that useful.
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