ESPORTS Mafia - Page 8

On September 23 2013 22:39 TheMango wrote:


The donations were from viewers, and if any role claims were mentioned, they were just speculation and not spoilers.

On October 03 2013 17:38 UHF wrote:
I'd like to hear some thought behinds Storr's playstyle a little. I was getting a frustrated in chat (which was poor form), but I'm kind of struggling to understand. I'll put forward two instances that occurred, to show why I think the hyper aggressive style he is moving towards is no longer good for town.

1. Last weeks game 1
Within the first minute of day 1, Storr says "Daniel is Mafia. I want to lynch Daniel". Daniel gets formalled, a few people poke at him a bit and just before going to vote he reveals he is Cop, and ends up dying soon after. As it was only 1 minute into the game, the majority of the players hadn't even spoken. Later Storr claims he had no reason for formalling Daniel and wouldn't have voted, yet earlier he made it clear he wanted to lynch him. After rewatching the VOD, i do not blame Daniel for thinking he might be voted off, as it felt like he could have been.

2. This week game 1
Storr claims town on day 1. He goes hard on Cable, saying he wants to formal him (and lynch IIRC). Storr claims town on day 2. Storr keeps bringing up Cable, until he eventually gets formalled and voted out. Storr then claims Vigi, making the real Vigi reveal his role in a counter claim - Vigi ends up shooting him out of frustration for forcing him to reveal against his will. At the end of the game we learn the Cable was Cop.

In both games, players were directly asking why Storr was going hard after these players, and in both cases no reason was given. After each game (IIRC), players commented that they thought Storr had some sort of knowledge not available to vanilla town for him to push so hard on certain players.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, in both cases Storr was unintentionally misleading town, or at the very least unintentionally confusing them. I personally was extremely confused why Storr was making these plays and it felt very Mafia - but in a way too obvious way. Whilst he was trying to gain information or act in a way he thought was correct, it lead to important town roles both be revealed and killed. Furthermore it lead to town roles/players get frustrated with his play, and make plays that may not have been in towns interest. Now whether Storr thought these plays were the right ones to make, I felt like he was not considering what the entire town wanted to do. If someone asks you to back down and give some room to possibly question other players, isn't it pro-town play to do so - especially considering Storr had no solid evidence or reason to push so hard on these players?

Lastly, i think there is one other important factor that makes Storr's style very dangerous - the unwritten rule of not discussing your vote before you go to vote. A month or so ago, the person on the chopping block could get some sort of idea if they were going to get lynched. If you were a role, there was at least some some comfort in knowing 3 or 4 people weren't going to vote. However with the no vote discussing rule, town roles are obviously a lot more likely to reveal themselves in case they were voted off with information the town needs. This has been very evident in the last couple of weeks.

I understand the idea behind getting town moving along, and putting pressure on people, however I'm struggling to understand this hyper aggressive style Storr has taken up (he has always been aggressive, but lately it's over 9000).

On October 06 2013 09:55 Dgiese wrote:
long post, so i'm not going to address it all.
Your point 1 is incorrect. Storr's reasoning for pushing on daniel early on day 1 was because Storr heard someone say that they were cop at the start of the round (it was phil, but storr didnt know that), and then Daniel kept trying to draw out who said that they were cop (because daniel was in fact cop). Storr interpreted this as mafia play, and thinking the hypno cop claim was genuine made an effort to stop the cop hypno claim from being outed (as not many people heard it).

On September 27 2013 08:46 Earll wrote:
So uhh question , is there any rules against playing specifically to counter roles, namely hypno? If on day 1 you just created a specific order where everyone says a a random villa role (maybe everyone says cop or half say cop half say medic) at the start of every day quickly and after eachother, it counteracts the hypno potentially outing a good town role, whereas a mafia still has to say he is mafia and obv nobody would fake claim mafia.

Edit: annoys me when they dont play like i think they should, watching 2nd game now where sheth claims vigi (fake or not I dont know yet.) And they are not sure what to do\whether sheth is real or not think he could be vigi. What they should say is Tell sheth Either he kills Jaison as vigi in the night, or he gets lynched next day.


Edit: going to assume the vigi can only kill 1 person in a game by how they are playing? :s (someone please confirm\deny)

On October 16 2013 04:55 StorrZerg wrote:
@UHF well over 9k

in short, shit happens. people can say for what ever reason why i did what i did. But the reality comes down to, i picked someone and i figured they are good to look at. pressure happens in some cases ill hit a role. in others ill hit a mafia. some i hit town. I feel votes are really important for town, especially on days when we have 2 lynches.

As for cable, yeah i pushed on him hard all game day 1. And in reality if he had been voted on as the first or second lynch the vote in almost all certainty would have failed. As the game dragged on, mafia latched onto him (kelly and loda). Town got tired, town wanted a second lynch and after 7+ lynches had been done it gets easier and easier for the lynch to go imo.

Do i regret pushing on Daniel or cable? no. Do i think they could have played differently perhaps.
I understand my play is blunt brash and w/e else you want to say, however please understand this is a game and not RL.

On September 27 2013 09:18 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Any other streams of this on days other than Mon/Weds?