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Obsidian
United States350 Posts
On April 01 2013 11:44 tcsduo wrote: I have not received any contact from Paqman since the start of the round. I am not sure if we will be able to play. He didn't reply to my messages either, I got a by because of it. | ||
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Snotling
Germany885 Posts
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Germany786 Posts
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Snotling
Germany885 Posts
Group stage should not be longer, it should be shorter imo. 9 weeks is a long time for people to get frustrated  or real life to kick in.But this time around teams will start with a higher value. Im thinking 1250. That way everyone who applies has played some games and should know how his team works. Building up a team in Auld or Nagg is easy enough. Im working on other details of the rules too. How scheduling works and stuff. If there is the slightest chance to misinterpret a rule someone will do it :D | ||
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ain
Germany786 Posts
Building up a team in another league would just mean min-maxing it to get the most out of it. What's stopping me from applying with a ChD team with claw/mb on the dwarves and 200k gold banked just to give an extreme example. If you want a faster start for the league a better option is to make everyone create a new team, but give them two byes by default. That way they get some skills and can buy some more positionals and there will be no shenanigans. | ||
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Snotling
Germany885 Posts
Also teams would of course have to have 11 players minimum and no money on the bank before the first game. I have no problem with a little minmaxing. I like awesome teams playing each other. And if someone really feels the need to apply a maxed clawpomb team, I just might forget of confirm the application in time :D After all this is a private league with most people already knowing each other from season 1 or 2. And nothing is set in stone yet. Rules for application/teams/scheduling are very much work in progress. So everybodys oppinion is much appreciated. If the majority of players wants to start with new teams I have no problem with that. | ||
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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ain
Germany786 Posts
If you make rules against clawpombers then where do you draw the line? Would two wardancers with strip ball and AG5 be fine? A Dwarf team with 5 guard players? All of these are equally gamebreaking and can be achieved for similar TV given enough time. In table top this would be kept in check because you could simply limit the amount of skill-ups and doubles, whereas with external games in cyanide you can't. There is so much stuff you can do even with minimal TV that completely screws with some teams and greatly benefits others. Furthermore, though this is just a minor point, I don't think we have enough regular players yet to start with premade teams. For someone who has played in previous seasons its easy to grab an old team and sign up. Anyone else would have to create a team and play half a dozen games before he can apply. It just needlessly raises the barrier of entry. With byes you don't run into most of these issues; everyone has the same chance of getting lucky skill-ups. I just think those rules would be more trouble than they're worth. | ||
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Snotling
Germany885 Posts
Nobody is forced to take a +stat or double when building the team. Just take a normal skill. Max one +stat, max one double for example. 1250 is not really high tv. And actually I want to raise the barrier of entry. Drop outs in the first two seasons were mostly inexperienced coaches. If someone invests a little time before the league, the chances are higher that he will stay in till the end. That way i dont have to write pms to people and hope they respond, give walkovers and change teams mid season. If there are better ways to achieve this let me know. | ||
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Snotling
Germany885 Posts
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
Edit: I suppose I could play a couple of 8-8 draws on Auld with a friend, but that's still pointless and annoying. (Edit #2: I suppose they'd be 4-4 draws, now that I think about it.) | ||
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Obsidian
United States350 Posts
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mavignon
France369 Posts
On April 03 2013 04:42 Kanil wrote: Either stick with TV1000 teams, or allow us to use existing TLBB teams in the next season. I won't be playing in the league if I have to grind out games on friggin' auld world. That defeats the entire purpose of playing a private league. Agreed. That'd be too boring and unfair. Anyway, people who does not bother showing up when they have a few bad games will quit whatever format you come up with. The only solution is better screening of players, but I don't know how to do it... maybe for next season a A league of vetted players and a smaller B league with new players? It can be a pain to manage as well... | ||
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Arevall
Sweden1133 Posts
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xccam
Great Britain1154 Posts
On April 03 2013 07:34 mavignon wrote: Agreed. That'd be too boring and unfair. Anyway, people who does not bother showing up when they have a few bad games will quit whatever format you come up with. The only solution is better screening of players, but I don't know how to do it... maybe for next season a A league of vetted players and a smaller B league with new players? It can be a pain to manage as well... Yup I wouldnt enter a team i had to play on pub leagues to even get there. I like the start at 1k tv thing we have here. | ||
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Snotling
Germany885 Posts
off to ireland now. have fun this week | ||
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Obsidian
United States350 Posts
Name: Liquidbowl Season 3 (Test) PW: liquid | ||
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ain
Germany786 Posts
On April 03 2013 20:21 Obsidian wrote: Me and Morinethar are looking at seeing what setting up a private league and feeding people cash via forced bys might do. It would still require people to have legitimate teams to sign up, but we can get teams to start with a few hundred thousand more and maybe a few SP. I'm still testing it and if possible I'd like a few people to sign up some scrub teams that I can play with. Name: Liquidbowl Season 3 (Test) PW: liquid It's common practice among private leagues as far as I know. Many private leagues allow people to use teams from previous seasons so new players are given some byes to buffer the large TV gaps compared to the old teams. For 2 byes you essentially get 4 MVPs and 4 touchdowns (32 SPP total) distributed randomly as well as up to 240k (?) cash. | ||
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xccam
Great Britain1154 Posts
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ain
Germany786 Posts
On April 03 2013 23:11 xccam wrote: Can I ask what it is that has you guys who want this extra tv at the stat, so against everyone just starting with a fresh team? On April 02 2013 22:14 Snotling wrote: Making rules that limit doubles or stat increases are no problem here too. Nobody is forced to take a +stat or double when building the team. Just take a normal skill. Max one +stat, max one double for example. 1250 is not really high tv. And actually I want to raise the barrier of entry. Drop outs in the first two seasons were mostly inexperienced coaches. If someone invests a little time before the league, the chances are higher that he will stay in till the end. That way i dont have to write pms to people and hope they respond, give walkovers and change teams mid season. If there are better ways to achieve this let me know. Basically to encourage people to stick around. | ||
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