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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 07 2020 22:41 GMT
#521
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
December 07 2020 22:44 GMT
#522
On December 08 2020 07:05 Manit0u wrote:

What issues are you talking about? Gameplay being bad somehow? Story being crap?.


Again, haven't played the game, will absolutely one day. Just commenting that, people giving the game 10/10 are out of their minds.
- Staggering number of bugs
- Driving sucks
- A lot more linear than expected especially with side quests (a few very good ones, including what was shown in 2018, a lot of crap other than that)
- Lots of filler, constantly in your face, breaking immersion ie big old school open map with ? quests everywhere, not an actual living RPG
- Fake maturity (look ma, dildos everywhere)
- Subpar writing
And a few more I'm not sure how to translate properly.
And I'll say it one more time before you guys jump on me, not looking to get you to cancel your preorders or whatever, just saying game journalism is mostly a fraud those days.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21961 Posts
December 07 2020 22:45 GMT
#523
On December 08 2020 06:05 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2020 05:52 deacon.frost wrote:
On December 08 2020 04:49 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Sounds like the person really wants to spoil the game on areas/skills that haven't been shown. How can you not review a game without using your own footage?

If you're talking about Skill Up, he's actually pretty good at creating no spoiler reviews. Also, I guess he wants to show the bugs and, let's say, less popular stuff(e.g. bad HW optimization). Which, surprise, isn't in the official trailer and release footage! Shocking, I know

Edit> Also wanna point out, that Wasteland 3 was released in a state that it was barely passing as a playable on consoles. It was crashing every other load? (I played the PC version, so just read about it) So his annoyance about missing console versions for proper day1 buyers reviews is actually pretty valid. I was horribly surprised how unfinished the game was and that it was actually released. Take that as an example to his another rant.

On December 08 2020 04:16 Sermokala wrote:
Its hard to knock the score for a game down so much when the bugs can be fixed but your score can't be updated realistically especially without working with a day1 patch.

We're not in a world anymore when you get a finished game without updates or patches to be expected.

You know you pay a full price for a broken product then? It should affect the scoring because if somebody else can do it without bugs with the same quality, how do you show the difference? Lowering the score for bugs is fair, it makes the game less enjoyable and it makes the game developers motivated to release the game in a better state. This is actually a pro-consumer move from the review journalist. And consumers don't like, the irony

If every other outlet can post a pre-launch review, then why can't he? I feel like he's looking to nitpick on what everyone already knows so it doesn't make any sense to rant about it. Just review what you can and once it launches, release your full review and update your scoring appropriately. I can understand his frustration, but without the day 1 patch, it doesn't do anything to point out flaws we know are there. If the game is playable and he's finished it as he claims, then the game can't be that bad. Frustrating because of bugs etc? Sure.
He makes that clear? he can't show the bugs because he can't show his own footage and only trailer stuff which obviously doesn't show the bugs.

I don't blame a reviewer for saying "I can't show you my review because I want to show the bad side but they won't let me".

I will play this regardless so long as the bugs are not game breaking but if I check a review I want to see the bad, so I can judge if its bad enough to turn me off the game.

As for no console reviews. I would be super wary if I were a console player (I'm not) because of the rumours that atleast some of the delays were because of bad console performance.
Good chance this runs like absolute garbage on ps4.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10811 Posts
December 08 2020 00:42 GMT
#524
Just do the smart thing.

Wait another 1-2 months, the worst stuff will be fixed and you can enjoy it.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6319 Posts
December 08 2020 12:51 GMT
#525
On December 08 2020 07:44 Merany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2020 07:05 Manit0u wrote:

What issues are you talking about? Gameplay being bad somehow? Story being crap?.


Again, haven't played the game, will absolutely one day. Just commenting that, people giving the game 10/10 are out of their minds.
- Staggering number of bugs
- Driving sucks
- A lot more linear than expected especially with side quests (a few very good ones, including what was shown in 2018, a lot of crap other than that)
- Lots of filler, constantly in your face, breaking immersion ie big old school open map with ? quests everywhere, not an actual living RPG
- Fake maturity (look ma, dildos everywhere)
- Subpar writing
And a few more I'm not sure how to translate properly.
And I'll say it one more time before you guys jump on me, not looking to get you to cancel your preorders or whatever, just saying game journalism is mostly a fraud those days.

For every 10/10 not deserved, there is an edgy contrarian just nitpicking and blowing everything out of proportion for easy clicks. You haven't played the game, I haven't played the game. Will this be the first game in a long time that I will sink 50+ hours into?... probably. And that's all that matters to me
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9728 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-08 13:00:15
December 08 2020 12:59 GMT
#526
Expectations are too high.
You aren't ever going to get a game that is ambitious, breaks new ground, expands what is possible, has huge amounts of high quality content and is free from issues and bugs.
You get a couple of those things at a cost.
The Witcher 3 didn't just arrive fully formed. There were 2 games before it that had huge, huge issues with performance and glitches, even though they were amazing games.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6996 Posts
December 08 2020 14:53 GMT
#527
Reviews are good enough for me. Will buy on GoG if nothing game breaking comes along. Can't start playing before the 20th anyway so I hope some patching is done until then
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12905 Posts
December 08 2020 15:43 GMT
#528
On December 08 2020 07:44 Merany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2020 07:05 Manit0u wrote:

What issues are you talking about? Gameplay being bad somehow? Story being crap?.


Again, haven't played the game, will absolutely one day. Just commenting that, people giving the game 10/10 are out of their minds.
- Staggering number of bugs
- Driving sucks
- A lot more linear than expected especially with side quests (a few very good ones, including what was shown in 2018, a lot of crap other than that)
- Lots of filler, constantly in your face, breaking immersion ie big old school open map with ? quests everywhere, not an actual living RPG
- Fake maturity (look ma, dildos everywhere)
- Subpar writing
And a few more I'm not sure how to translate properly.
And I'll say it one more time before you guys jump on me, not looking to get you to cancel your preorders or whatever, just saying game journalism is mostly a fraud those days.

Reading what it seems you are talking about some french youtuber / journalist review on twitter.
Pretty sure the day 1 game will have far less bugs, and other "issues" are probably very arguable.
WriterMaru
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
December 08 2020 17:25 GMT
#529
Games like this one are simply too huge to release "on time". They need to make money, so they released it. CDPR fixed TW3 pretty quickly after its messy launch. They will do the same with CP77, but it's a shame that they couldn't have said "Well, fuck. It's buggy. Wait one more year please." It's by far the biggest release of 2020. With Covid19 still being a thing, people are longing for a game to get them through the darkest months (on the northern hemisphere lol). So they released it.

I expect it to be as buggy as TW3 in 2015. As long as there are no game breaking glitches, I can live with some visual bugs. I've played Bethesda games for all my life, I know what a buggy mess looks like.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-08 17:34:52
December 08 2020 17:34 GMT
#530

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17448 Posts
December 08 2020 18:57 GMT
#531
https://www.gameinformer.com/2020/12/07/cyberpunk-2077-epileptic-psa
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3260 Posts
December 08 2020 19:04 GMT
#532
On December 08 2020 09:42 Velr wrote:
Just do the smart thing.

Wait another 1-2 months, the worst stuff will be fixed and you can enjoy it.


Or wait for another 10 months, get it mostly bug free possibly with additional content/fixes to the most glaring gameplay errors and on sale for half the price. Mostly how I've been playing games, my steam library of shame is way too big to jump on every game I might be interested in.
low gravity, yes-yes!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
December 08 2020 19:12 GMT
#533


Launch trailer is out. Compared to most of the previous trailers, it's melancholic, reflective and emphasizes the relationships you'll build with the characters, based on it displaying the love interests and close-ups of main characters over explosions and violence. Set to a slow, airy cover of Never Fade Away and a breathy monologue of life and death, it's a foil to most of the trailers that were all about its explosive punkiness and edge. The game's heartfelt, emotional side resonates strongly in this, and that's what CDPR do best.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-12-08 22:28:52
December 08 2020 22:27 GMT
#534
It gets worse. Beg those to not buy till this is patched if they suffer from epileptic seizures.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9006 Posts
December 09 2020 00:29 GMT
#535
Sucks for epileptics.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6996 Posts
December 09 2020 07:34 GMT
#536
Gotta be honest: I am one of those people who just click the warning away, never reading or thinking about it.
This is the first time I am actively investing time in epilepsy and gaming. I had no idea that it was so big a problem. I always thought they just had to do the warning as a legal measure.

I really hope all people who suffer from something like this to find a way to enjoy Cyberpunk, enjoy gaming and live their lives unhindered <3
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 09 2020 12:29 GMT
#537
Performance appears to be somewhat.. dreadful.
On track to MA1950A.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6996 Posts
December 09 2020 13:05 GMT
#538
On December 09 2020 21:29 m4ini wrote:
Performance appears to be somewhat.. dreadful.


How so?

I just read that some people had their settings set to ultra (or at least higher than they should) without the necessary hardware and had a lot of bugs and glitches because of that.

Also CDPR said a lot of those review testing bugs have already been solved in the Day1 patch but that remains to be seen
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
December 09 2020 13:09 GMT
#539
Yeah, looks like with full settings it's 3080+ or bust...

Shouldn't have upgraded to 4K recently ... No way my 2080 can run this at 4K
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17448 Posts
December 09 2020 13:22 GMT
#540
Can't you just revert to 1080p for this game?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
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