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Cinfirms the buggy launch rumors.
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On December 08 2020 02:02 ProMeTheus112 wrote: Gog also does much better deal for games that aren't developped by CDPR afaik. If I have an option to buy a game on gog i'd get it from there assuming no physical etc. Also it's no DRM, the launcher is optional, if you're out of internet or the platform one day goes down or whatever you won't need to hack your files to play your games you can always just launch them from your computer just like it should be^^ I haven't tried but this may mean that if you have a game from gog and you copy it to your other computers you can play lan games at home just like we used to with older games.
Yes, that is one of the effects of no DRM. Generally speaking, GOG has a far more ethical setup compared to steam, which is why i also prefer it when i have a choice.
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So it's buggy before the day 1 patch? Color me not surprised in the least.
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On December 08 2020 02:49 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:So it's buggy before the day 1 patch? Color me not surprised in the least. I imagine many hoped the many delays were for polish and bug fixing. But I agree its no surprised if it has a bunch of bugs, just hope they aren't game breaking.
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On December 08 2020 02:57 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2020 02:49 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:So it's buggy before the day 1 patch? Color me not surprised in the least. I imagine many hoped the many delays were for polish and bug fixing. But I agree its no surprised if it has a bunch of bugs, just hope they aren't game breaking. I'm sure they did as much as they could before going gold. This is a massive game and if it's more ambitious than TW3 or GTA5, then there are going to be missed issues. I'm thinking another 6 months would have been perfect, but you know gamers.
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On December 08 2020 02:57 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2020 02:49 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:So it's buggy before the day 1 patch? Color me not surprised in the least. I imagine many hoped the many delays were for polish and bug fixing. But I agree its no surprised if it has a bunch of bugs, just hope they aren't game breaking.
Unfortunately the delays were primarily caused by current-gen consoles having trouble running the game and majority of effort went into fixing that. I guess that patches fixing actual bugs will start rolling out soon.
One of the reasons why I'm postponing my download until next year at the least.
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On December 08 2020 03:03 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2020 02:57 Gorsameth wrote:On December 08 2020 02:49 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:So it's buggy before the day 1 patch? Color me not surprised in the least. I imagine many hoped the many delays were for polish and bug fixing. But I agree its no surprised if it has a bunch of bugs, just hope they aren't game breaking. I'm sure they did as much as they could before going gold. This is a massive game and if it's more ambitious than TW3 or GTA5, then there are going to be missed issues. I'm thinking another 6 months would have been perfect, but you know gamers. the last delay was after going gold, so it has almost a month of extra polish already ^^
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On December 08 2020 03:09 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2020 03:03 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On December 08 2020 02:57 Gorsameth wrote:On December 08 2020 02:49 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:So it's buggy before the day 1 patch? Color me not surprised in the least. I imagine many hoped the many delays were for polish and bug fixing. But I agree its no surprised if it has a bunch of bugs, just hope they aren't game breaking. I'm sure they did as much as they could before going gold. This is a massive game and if it's more ambitious than TW3 or GTA5, then there are going to be missed issues. I'm thinking another 6 months would have been perfect, but you know gamers. the last delay was after going gold, so it has almost a month of extra polish already ^^ That's what I meant. They went gold and was like, "Shit...there's a lot more wrong than we think. We're gonna have to delay...the delay..."
I'm gonna be running it on my 5700XT at max settings day 1 I think. Gotta get this game outta my system.
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The critic consensus doesn't exactly surprise me because of its delays that foreshadowed a technical headache that would depress the overall enjoyment, but it still sounds like an ambitious RPG and story that I would enjoy quite a lot as long as those are ironed out.
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Game journalism really has become a joke those days… What I'm reading on sources I personally trust is so far from all those 9 and 10/10. Not saying the game doesn't seem to have a lot of qualities, it obviously does but all the issues and there seem to be many (and not just bugs) should prevent the absurd notation.
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Its hard to knock the score for a game down so much when the bugs can be fixed but your score can't be updated realistically especially without working with a day1 patch.
We're not in a world anymore when you get a finished game without updates or patches to be expected.
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All I know is that there will be a lot of juicy material for investigative articles and documentary videos on the development and management of the game. The astronomical hype accumulated from seven years and its turbulent development tells quite a story already. I remember reading that the game's development took a drastic shift from its original concept a while back, not to mention the managerial dysfunction of the studio and the tales of crunch that dominated its last months before launch. I'd love to know if CDPR's dev team and QA were begging for a fourth delay, and how they felt about its first impression being dented by its sheer bugginess, and how they feel about their damage control moves like denying reviewers the chance to show their own footage, despite their consumer-friendly image.
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Sounds like the person really wants to spoil the game on areas/skills that haven't been shown. How can you not review a game without using your own footage?
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On December 08 2020 04:16 Sermokala wrote: Its hard to knock the score for a game down so much when the bugs can be fixed but your score can't be updated realistically especially without working with a day1 patch.
We're not in a world anymore when you get a finished game without updates or patches to be expected. I agree, ideally, notes would be updated after the bugs are fixed. Thing is, here, the issues I'm reading about are not JUST about bugs.
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On December 08 2020 04:49 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Sounds like the person really wants to spoil the game on areas/skills that haven't been shown. How can you not review a game without using your own footage? If you're talking about Skill Up, he's actually pretty good at creating no spoiler reviews. Also, I guess he wants to show the bugs and, let's say, less popular stuff(e.g. bad HW optimization). Which, surprise, isn't in the official trailer and release footage! Shocking, I know 
Edit> Also wanna point out, that Wasteland 3 was released in a state that it was barely passing as a playable on consoles. It was crashing every other load? (I played the PC version, so just read about it) So his annoyance about missing console versions for proper day1 buyers reviews is actually pretty valid. I was horribly surprised how unfinished the game was and that it was actually released. Take that as an example to his another rant.
On December 08 2020 04:16 Sermokala wrote: Its hard to knock the score for a game down so much when the bugs can be fixed but your score can't be updated realistically especially without working with a day1 patch.
We're not in a world anymore when you get a finished game without updates or patches to be expected. You know you pay a full price for a broken product then? It should affect the scoring because if somebody else can do it without bugs with the same quality, how do you show the difference? Lowering the score for bugs is fair, it makes the game less enjoyable and it makes the game developers motivated to release the game in a better state. This is actually a pro-consumer move from the review journalist. And consumers don't like, the irony
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On December 08 2020 05:52 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2020 04:49 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Sounds like the person really wants to spoil the game on areas/skills that haven't been shown. How can you not review a game without using your own footage? If you're talking about Skill Up, he's actually pretty good at creating no spoiler reviews. Also, I guess he wants to show the bugs and, let's say, less popular stuff(e.g. bad HW optimization). Which, surprise, isn't in the official trailer and release footage! Shocking, I know  Edit> Also wanna point out, that Wasteland 3 was released in a state that it was barely passing as a playable on consoles. It was crashing every other load? (I played the PC version, so just read about it) So his annoyance about missing console versions for proper day1 buyers reviews is actually pretty valid. I was horribly surprised how unfinished the game was and that it was actually released. Take that as an example to his another rant. Show nested quote +On December 08 2020 04:16 Sermokala wrote: Its hard to knock the score for a game down so much when the bugs can be fixed but your score can't be updated realistically especially without working with a day1 patch.
We're not in a world anymore when you get a finished game without updates or patches to be expected. You know you pay a full price for a broken product then? It should affect the scoring because if somebody else can do it without bugs with the same quality, how do you show the difference? Lowering the score for bugs is fair, it makes the game less enjoyable and it makes the game developers motivated to release the game in a better state. This is actually a pro-consumer move from the review journalist. And consumers don't like, the irony  If every other outlet can post a pre-launch review, then why can't he? I feel like he's looking to nitpick on what everyone already knows so it doesn't make any sense to rant about it. Just review what you can and once it launches, release your full review and update your scoring appropriately. I can understand his frustration, but without the day 1 patch, it doesn't do anything to point out flaws we know are there. If the game is playable and he's finished it as he claims, then the game can't be that bad. Frustrating because of bugs etc? Sure.
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On December 08 2020 04:52 Merany wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2020 04:16 Sermokala wrote: Its hard to knock the score for a game down so much when the bugs can be fixed but your score can't be updated realistically especially without working with a day1 patch.
We're not in a world anymore when you get a finished game without updates or patches to be expected. I agree, ideally, notes would be updated after the bugs are fixed. Thing is, here, the issues I'm reading about are not JUST about bugs.
What issues are you talking about? Gameplay being bad somehow? Story being crap?
I've just recently realized that CP2077 has taken a page from Age of Conan, which at the time was truly groundbreaking for MMOs and RPGs in general as very rarely you could see different archetypes be thrown into different points of the same story only to converge later so you had to do like 4 playthroughs to get the full picture of how the first part of the story develops.
Can't wait to feel that rush again if they did it in the same vein.
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