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SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-18 19:42:12
March 18 2015 19:41 GMT
#441
This is the Jim Belushi of RPGs.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
March 18 2015 19:44 GMT
#442
I love Belushi but what does that mean?
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
March 18 2015 19:48 GMT
#443
On March 19 2015 04:44 ZasZ. wrote:
I love Belushi but what does that mean?


If you don't get it, you're the Jim Belushi of TL users.
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-18 21:43:29
March 18 2015 21:43 GMT
#444
Still remember Baldur's Gate 2 coming out when I was about 13/14. Not many games have me looking forward to release day anymore, just pick them up some day after release or when I stumble upon them in a Steam sale. From the obsidian forums the Beta feedback seems to have been very very positive. I'm sure there will be some bugs, there always are in games this big, but as long as they aren't game breaking I want to be playing this asap. Really hope this does well and paves the way for a few more like it.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 19 2015 10:59 GMT
#445
It really looks like baldur's gate (which is good =) ), even the move cursor is the BG cursor
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
March 19 2015 12:10 GMT
#446
Took a day off next Friday... I am soooo ready to love this game!
Obviously, started a new playthrough of Baldur's Gate to kill time :D
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
March 19 2015 13:14 GMT
#447
On March 19 2015 21:10 Merany wrote:
Took a day off next Friday... I am soooo ready to love this game!
Obviously, started a new playthrough of Baldur's Gate to kill time :D


Haha same here next Friday is booked off!
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iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4393 Posts
March 19 2015 13:20 GMT
#448
On March 19 2015 02:26 deth2munkies wrote:
I'll give it the standard Obsidian downtime of 6 months to get all the bugs out.

Pretty much.... (And i have played the beta)
Combat needs work, still too hard to see whats going on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
March 19 2015 20:06 GMT
#449
I played the TPB-version of the kickstarter copy to see if it's a game worth picking up, but I'm really unimpressed. The combat really hasn't aged well at all and somehow manages to feel chaotic and boring at the same time.

For all I know, the story might be superb, but that's hard to appreciate when you have to grid your teeth whenever you enter combat.
Immersion_
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom794 Posts
March 19 2015 23:18 GMT
#450
On March 20 2015 05:06 SixStrings wrote:
I played the TPB-version of the kickstarter copy to see if it's a game worth picking up, but I'm really unimpressed. The combat really hasn't aged well at all and somehow manages to feel chaotic and boring at the same time.

For all I know, the story might be superb, but that's hard to appreciate when you have to grid your teeth whenever you enter combat.


TPb version? Apparently combat has improved greatly in the last few beta iterations.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 20 2015 01:08 GMT
#451
the combat was pretty meh for me, i play latest beta.


and IMO the graphics are overloaded and bad, remember those early 3D RTS where you just cant see WTF is going on? Its like that to me.
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
March 20 2015 11:52 GMT
#452
Apparently, I'm a pretty impatient guy :D Saw here yesterday that the beta was available on torrent (which did absolutely not occur to me before, for some reason...) so I went ahead and installed it. Found one that's on a pretty late beta build too. I guess I'm gonna spend my entire weekend reading lore and spells and decide what I want to play. Which also means more actual playtime Friday! Me happy :D
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
March 20 2015 12:00 GMT
#453
Hardly wait for 26 since I didn't play beta and nothing has been spoiled yet.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 20 2015 14:11 GMT
#454
On March 20 2015 21:00 Laserist wrote:
Hardly wait for 26 since I didn't play beta and nothing has been spoiled yet.

Bete has no spoilers. You get dumped at lvl 4 into a side area with no main story lore or quests and you get 4 generic companions called BB Fighter, BB Rogue and so on.
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
March 20 2015 15:38 GMT
#455
On March 20 2015 23:11 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 21:00 Laserist wrote:
Hardly wait for 26 since I didn't play beta and nothing has been spoiled yet.

Bete has no spoilers. You get dumped at lvl 4 into a side area with no main story lore or quests and you get 4 generic companions called BB Fighter, BB Rogue and so on.


Too late for me I deliberately stay far from every possible spoiling action including forum reading, beta participation and such not to ruin my over hyped Baldur's Gate comeback dreams.
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
March 20 2015 16:33 GMT
#456
On March 20 2015 10:08 LaNague wrote:
the combat was pretty meh for me, i play latest beta.


and IMO the graphics are overloaded and bad, remember those early 3D RTS where you just cant see WTF is going on? Its like that to me.

How are they overloaded? Character models don't look all that good to me, but the backgrounds are excellent. Same style as IE games, basic pre-rendered shit then paint stuff over.

IE games had this too where character models kind of stood out compared to the background, but I think that's to be expected. BG2 probably had the best contrast between characters/background and maybe TOEE too.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 20 2015 19:06 GMT
#457
On March 21 2015 01:33 Andre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 10:08 LaNague wrote:
the combat was pretty meh for me, i play latest beta.


and IMO the graphics are overloaded and bad, remember those early 3D RTS where you just cant see WTF is going on? Its like that to me.

How are they overloaded? Character models don't look all that good to me, but the backgrounds are excellent. Same style as IE games, basic pre-rendered shit then paint stuff over.

IE games had this too where character models kind of stood out compared to the background, but I think that's to be expected. BG2 probably had the best contrast between characters/background and maybe TOEE too.



idk, the combat is just a blurr of pixels for me.
Ill try again today, but i could not see whats going on, who hits whom, what monster is knocked down on its back etc.


Infinity Engine looked much more visually clean to me.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 19:25:37
March 20 2015 19:18 GMT
#458
Seems like a reasonable criticism if you have low quality character models + overly flashy visual effects.

IE didn't overdo the visual effects because they were pretty limited in how good they could make them look in 1998-2000, so the end result stays on the side of being functional and recognizable.

On March 20 2015 05:06 SixStrings wrote:
I played the TPB-version of the kickstarter copy to see if it's a game worth picking up, but I'm really unimpressed. The combat really hasn't aged well at all and somehow manages to feel chaotic and boring at the same time.

I think it's wrong to say that IE combat hasn't aged well. Maybe you're just not into the CRPG combat formula anymore, but IE combat is still better than most CRPGs today. Played BG recently and enjoyed the combat just fine. If PoE's combat is bad, it's because PoE's combat is bad, not because the IE combat formula didn't age well.

Admittedly, BG/IWD having interesting combat is not really a product of the engine, but rather a product of good encounter design, which can save even a poor combat system/engine. The reverse case is ToEE, which has a great combat engine but awful encounter design where you have a ton of combat options, but 95% of your combats are against utterly boring and one-dimensional enemies, so the majority of the time the strength of the engine isn't utilized.
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Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
March 20 2015 19:30 GMT
#459
Any reviews out on this game yet?
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12062 Posts
March 20 2015 19:41 GMT
#460
On March 21 2015 04:30 Reaps wrote:
Any reviews out on this game yet?

On March 19 2015 01:14 -Archangel- wrote:
Press embargo is going to be lifted on 23rd so people can watch twitch streams and read reviews before game releases on 26th. I expect a lot of praises.


I think -Archangel- answered that last page.
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