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Romanticide
Profile Joined July 2005
United States87 Posts
January 11 2006 07:13 GMT
#41
broncos are gonna win vs the pats.........people are underestimating the broncos vs the 'superbowl winning greats' that are the patriots. Yet the broncos won just like the patriots did a couple years ago? with elway yes...but plummer is dam good and the broncos dont need to rely on just elway to win this time. The broncos owned the regular season and they will own the playoffs
That is enough, John Mayer
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
January 11 2006 07:41 GMT
#42
On January 11 2006 16:13 Romanticide wrote:
broncos are gonna win vs the pats.........people are underestimating the broncos vs the 'superbowl winning greats' that are the patriots. Yet the broncos won just like the patriots did a couple years ago? with elway yes...but plummer is dam good and the broncos dont need to rely on just elway to win this time. The broncos owned the regular season and they will own the playoffs


that was a different broncos team. this is the same pats team. not that i think the pats are going to win, but there's sound logic behind it.
:O
Chris.K
Profile Joined January 2006
United States147 Posts
January 11 2006 07:42 GMT
#43
The broncos have one of the best teams who have constantly handed the pats an asswhooping... now


as for steelers vs colts... im not saying anything on this game because a steeler might crush peytons legs or arm haha and then they are doomed I say DOOMED!


panthers > bears
Skins > hawks

thats 2 upsets right there

im 3-1 in my predictions so far....

Broncos over Pats

Indy over steelers


_________

Panthers over skins
Broncos over Indy - third times a charm baby

Broncos vs Panthers with broncos winning


now I personally hope that skins lose... and seahawks crush the panthers and face the broncos in the bowl....

but personally Skins have played tougher teams and won... while keeping close games against better teams.. such as the broncos.. where they lost because gold stuck his hand up the hawks have played second and even third tier teams at home... I mean common... lets be serious there defense is not the caliber everyone says it is....

in order of defenses in the playoffs now

Bears
Panthers
Steelers
broncos
Skins
Pats
Indy
and finally hawks



indy has very small players but lets face it no depth... no depth at all and their starters wouldn't even start on other teams... don't give me this crap about dungys perfect game plan.... their defense relies on its speed.... and any good offensive line will stop them dead


this is why the broncos will have no trouble with their defense.... this is why the Bengals allowed no sacks on palmer in that game... vs indy and don't get me started on their offensive line... the steelers will beat the shit out of indys line and keep peyton on the move... which he isnt to accurate then but I think he'll get the job done while abusing the no huddle I doubt the steelers will come out with a 3-4 set tho :\ we'll see
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
January 11 2006 08:27 GMT
#44
On January 11 2006 16:42 Chris.K wrote:
indy has very small players but lets face it no depth... no depth at all and their starters wouldn't even start on other teams... don't give me this crap about dungys perfect game plan.... their defense relies on its speed.... and any good offensive line will stop them dead


this is why the broncos will have no trouble with their defense.... this is why the Bengals allowed no sacks on palmer in that game... vs indy and don't get me started on their offensive line... the steelers will beat the shit out of indys line and keep peyton on the move... which he isnt to accurate then but I think he'll get the job done while abusing the no huddle I doubt the steelers will come out with a 3-4 set tho :\ we'll see


The D line of Pitt couldn't get to him for the last game, they won't this game, either. They're simply not good enough to beat the Colts O Line, which is probably the best in all of football right now.

The Colts D line is another story. The speed is exactly what makes them hard to stop. Good D-lines DO stop them, but it's hard to stop them all the time. Also, Freeney and Mathis would absolutely be starters on another team.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Chris.K
Profile Joined January 2006
United States147 Posts
January 11 2006 10:36 GMT
#45
On January 11 2006 17:27 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2006 16:42 Chris.K wrote:
indy has very small players but lets face it no depth... no depth at all and their starters wouldn't even start on other teams... don't give me this crap about dungys perfect game plan.... their defense relies on its speed.... and any good offensive line will stop them dead


this is why the broncos will have no trouble with their defense.... this is why the Bengals allowed no sacks on palmer in that game... vs indy and don't get me started on their offensive line... the steelers will beat the shit out of indys line and keep peyton on the move... which he isnt to accurate then but I think he'll get the job done while abusing the no huddle I doubt the steelers will come out with a 3-4 set tho :\ we'll see


The D line of Pitt couldn't get to him for the last game, they won't this game, either. They're simply not good enough to beat the Colts O Line, which is probably the best in all of football right now.

The Colts D line is another story. The speed is exactly what makes them hard to stop. Good D-lines DO stop them, but it's hard to stop them all the time. Also, Freeney and Mathis would absolutely be starters on another team.



Ready.... The point of the defense is not always to get to the quarterback if you watch the film Manning never got a footing he was always on the move he was pressured... which made him actually make some mistakes... granted the steelers lost... but lets blame that on Ben... lets look at another example to prove this.. The broncos arguably the best defensive line rotation in the league.... how many sacks did they get... the browns linemen averaged ten I believe pryce got 4..? but still they put pressure on and force other teams into mistakes... its not about the numbers

Second... mathis would not start on another team... why? because he doesn't start for the colts he plays only on certain downs because he isn't made for playing a defensive game.. they rotate him in... having him play a full game just once and you'll see that hes overrated.. Freeney on the other hand is a godsend... very good player but he is the line... you shut him down you stop the pash rush.... which to be honest i haven't seen much of the steelers O line so I can't tell you... but again im calling denver over the pats and I'll tell you they will hold freeney back.. with tom nalen leading the core you can never go wrong

also the defensive line has to work much harder that the offensive line... taking a player and pushing him back while trying to run at the quarterback is much much harder that standing your ground trying to keep someone from getting you... (not harder may have been the wrong wording but it takes less energy we'll say that) if you've ever played on an offensive line + defensive line you'll know this to be true..... and I'll say it again the colts defense can not last halfway threw the third quarter and by the fourth quarter against a nice line... there will be almost 0 sacks... I believe if you want to play the numbers game statistically 85%+ of their sacks have game halfway threw the third quarter or before....


im skipping ahead and looking at the denver indy matchup now.... Denver all season has put points up early and rode it out for wins... (thus the den vs pats game where denver threw 28 points up while the pats had 0... granted they started to make a comeback but it was physically impossible against denvers defensive style.) so how do I see this happening.... Indy has rarely been in third down situations which.... will happen against denver... and hell maybe even pittsburgh.... so you'll see the defensive coordinators whip out their trick plays on third and long that manning probably won't be able to read he'll throw some balls and nail them but the one time he doesn't denver will score. Indy can not and will not stop a powerful run attack.


blah I skip around to much and focus on too many games... plus my writing overall sucks.... I had my first class of composition today in college so we'll see if it improves but I'm sure you get the point.
Chris.K
Profile Joined January 2006
United States147 Posts
January 11 2006 10:43 GMT
#46
On January 11 2006 16:41 choboPEon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2006 16:13 Romanticide wrote:
broncos are gonna win vs the pats.........people are underestimating the broncos vs the 'superbowl winning greats' that are the patriots. Yet the broncos won just like the patriots did a couple years ago? with elway yes...but plummer is dam good and the broncos dont need to rely on just elway to win this time. The broncos owned the regular season and they will own the playoffs


that was a different broncos team. this is the same pats team. not that i think the pats are going to win, but there's sound logic behind it.


also lets not forget a 4-0 preseason... so going back from there.. I believe the broncos have the best record.... don't give me crap about the preseason not counting its more proof to show whos rookies are better and obviously tada :D (pssttt we all know the colts have no depth)
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
January 11 2006 13:24 GMT
#47
On January 11 2006 19:36 Chris.K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2006 17:27 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
On January 11 2006 16:42 Chris.K wrote:
indy has very small players but lets face it no depth... no depth at all and their starters wouldn't even start on other teams... don't give me this crap about dungys perfect game plan.... their defense relies on its speed.... and any good offensive line will stop them dead


this is why the broncos will have no trouble with their defense.... this is why the Bengals allowed no sacks on palmer in that game... vs indy and don't get me started on their offensive line... the steelers will beat the shit out of indys line and keep peyton on the move... which he isnt to accurate then but I think he'll get the job done while abusing the no huddle I doubt the steelers will come out with a 3-4 set tho :\ we'll see


The D line of Pitt couldn't get to him for the last game, they won't this game, either. They're simply not good enough to beat the Colts O Line, which is probably the best in all of football right now.

The Colts D line is another story. The speed is exactly what makes them hard to stop. Good D-lines DO stop them, but it's hard to stop them all the time. Also, Freeney and Mathis would absolutely be starters on another team.



Ready.... The point of the defense is not always to get to the quarterback if you watch the film Manning never got a footing he was always on the move he was pressured... which made him actually make some mistakes... granted the steelers lost... but lets blame that on Ben... lets look at another example to prove this.. The broncos arguably the best defensive line rotation in the league.... how many sacks did they get... the browns linemen averaged ten I believe pryce got 4..? but still they put pressure on and force other teams into mistakes... its not about the numbers

Second... mathis would not start on another team... why? because he doesn't start for the colts he plays only on certain downs because he isn't made for playing a defensive game.. they rotate him in... having him play a full game just once and you'll see that hes overrated.. Freeney on the other hand is a godsend... very good player but he is the line... you shut him down you stop the pash rush.... which to be honest i haven't seen much of the steelers O line so I can't tell you... but again im calling denver over the pats and I'll tell you they will hold freeney back.. with tom nalen leading the core you can never go wrong

also the defensive line has to work much harder that the offensive line... taking a player and pushing him back while trying to run at the quarterback is much much harder that standing your ground trying to keep someone from getting you... (not harder may have been the wrong wording but it takes less energy we'll say that) if you've ever played on an offensive line + defensive line you'll know this to be true..... and I'll say it again the colts defense can not last halfway threw the third quarter and by the fourth quarter against a nice line... there will be almost 0 sacks... I believe if you want to play the numbers game statistically 85%+ of their sacks have game halfway threw the third quarter or before....


im skipping ahead and looking at the denver indy matchup now.... Denver all season has put points up early and rode it out for wins... (thus the den vs pats game where denver threw 28 points up while the pats had 0... granted they started to make a comeback but it was physically impossible against denvers defensive style.) so how do I see this happening.... Indy has rarely been in third down situations which.... will happen against denver... and hell maybe even pittsburgh.... so you'll see the defensive coordinators whip out their trick plays on third and long that manning probably won't be able to read he'll throw some balls and nail them but the one time he doesn't denver will score. Indy can not and will not stop a powerful run attack.


blah I skip around to much and focus on too many games... plus my writing overall sucks.... I had my first class of composition today in college so we'll see if it improves but I'm sure you get the point.


Well, I was going to reply to this, but then I hit the back button by mistake on my mouse, and deleted what I wrote! FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC! I hate when that happens.

I know what the D-line is supposed to do, there's no need for me to ready myself for anything.

I'll just go with the main points: Broncos will win this week, they have the best MU against the Colts.

Last game against the Steelers Manning was 15-25 for 245 yards, 2 TD's, 1 INT, 2 Sacks, 80 yd LNG, with a 102.9 rating. In general, Manning has happy feet. He never stands still in the pocket, but it works out alright for him. There's almost no defense he can't read, so they'll be hard pressed to find one. The Steelers will not force them into many 3rd and long situations. The Broncos may, but the Steelers won't. It'll be somewhat similar to their last meeting, Indy takes this one easily.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-11 14:29:38
January 11 2006 14:16 GMT
#48
1. Barring a major mishap (like someone "accidentally" decapitating Manning on his very first offensive play), the Colts should manhandle the Steelers with relative ease.

2. Seahawks have too much momentum to lose to the worn out Redskins.

3. Carolina over the Bears in a tight, defensive brawl. Why? Because Carolina has the experience and the talent. And Grossman's way too green behind the ears to lead his team deep into the playoffs. Yeah, I know, that's what they said about Dilfer and Brady, but crap, the Ravens back then were one of the greatest defensive teams ever to play the game and as for Brady, well, ditto - minus the word "defensive".

4. Broncos v. Pats = best match of the week. Very close to call, but give the Broncos the picometer edge because of home field. This one's going to be a back and forth chess match. Definitely not for the faint of heart. (A part of me would still like the Pats to win this one - just to see a Colts - Pats rematch in the Conference finals. Oh what a match for the ages that would be.)
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Freezer_au
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Australia1461 Posts
January 11 2006 20:43 GMT
#49

Colts
Broncos
Bears
Hawks
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
January 12 2006 03:53 GMT
#50
On January 11 2006 23:16 mensrea wrote:
1. Barring a major mishap (like someone "accidentally" decapitating Manning on his very first offensive play), the Colts should manhandle the Steelers with relative ease.

2. Seahawks have too much momentum to lose to the worn out Redskins.

3. Carolina over the Bears in a tight, defensive brawl. Why? Because Carolina has the experience and the talent. And Grossman's way too green behind the ears to lead his team deep into the playoffs. Yeah, I know, that's what they said about Dilfer and Brady, but crap, the Ravens back then were one of the greatest defensive teams ever to play the game and as for Brady, well, ditto - minus the word "defensive".

4. Broncos v. Pats = best match of the week. Very close to call, but give the Broncos the picometer edge because of home field. This one's going to be a back and forth chess match. Definitely not for the faint of heart. (A part of me would still like the Pats to win this one - just to see a Colts - Pats rematch in the Conference finals. Oh what a match for the ages that would be.)


The Bears this year are one of the best defensive teams ever, as well. Allowing 12.6 ppg is not an easy task by any stretch of the imagination, and that number is a bit skewed due to the final game in which all their starters were rested. That defense is going to have something to prove this weekend, and I would be scared if I were the opponent.

Broncos should win, and it'll still be a good matchup with the Colts-Broncos. The last two years the Broncos were dismantled by the Colts in their matchup, it's redemption time for them this year. (Even though I really would not mind Manning winning it all, in the least, because that will solidify his place as the best QB of the modern era, and a top 5 QB of all time [top 5 is debatable, who exactly goes where, though, because of the differences throughout the era]).

(NOTE: This is not a reply directed AT you, but I'm quoting you so people know why I'm talking about certain things)
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
January 12 2006 04:04 GMT
#51
Colts, Broncos, Panthers, and Seahawks for me.
Chris.K
Profile Joined January 2006
United States147 Posts
January 12 2006 05:51 GMT
#52
actually seahawks vs broncos championship would be a better rematch than colts and pats or colts and broncos

Holmberg coached the packers during their super bowl victories.. and the time where denver played green bay...

Shanahan vs Holmberg... two west coast offense coaches... back at the top dueling it out... classic battle
Chris.K
Profile Joined January 2006
United States147 Posts
January 12 2006 05:54 GMT
#53
On January 11 2006 22:24 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2006 19:36 Chris.K wrote:
On January 11 2006 17:27 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
On January 11 2006 16:42 Chris.K wrote:
indy has very small players but lets face it no depth... no depth at all and their starters wouldn't even start on other teams... don't give me this crap about dungys perfect game plan.... their defense relies on its speed.... and any good offensive line will stop them dead


this is why the broncos will have no trouble with their defense.... this is why the Bengals allowed no sacks on palmer in that game... vs indy and don't get me started on their offensive line... the steelers will beat the shit out of indys line and keep peyton on the move... which he isnt to accurate then but I think he'll get the job done while abusing the no huddle I doubt the steelers will come out with a 3-4 set tho :\ we'll see


The D line of Pitt couldn't get to him for the last game, they won't this game, either. They're simply not good enough to beat the Colts O Line, which is probably the best in all of football right now.

The Colts D line is another story. The speed is exactly what makes them hard to stop. Good D-lines DO stop them, but it's hard to stop them all the time. Also, Freeney and Mathis would absolutely be starters on another team.



Ready.... The point of the defense is not always to get to the quarterback if you watch the film Manning never got a footing he was always on the move he was pressured... which made him actually make some mistakes... granted the steelers lost... but lets blame that on Ben... lets look at another example to prove this.. The broncos arguably the best defensive line rotation in the league.... how many sacks did they get... the browns linemen averaged ten I believe pryce got 4..? but still they put pressure on and force other teams into mistakes... its not about the numbers

Second... mathis would not start on another team... why? because he doesn't start for the colts he plays only on certain downs because he isn't made for playing a defensive game.. they rotate him in... having him play a full game just once and you'll see that hes overrated.. Freeney on the other hand is a godsend... very good player but he is the line... you shut him down you stop the pash rush.... which to be honest i haven't seen much of the steelers O line so I can't tell you... but again im calling denver over the pats and I'll tell you they will hold freeney back.. with tom nalen leading the core you can never go wrong

also the defensive line has to work much harder that the offensive line... taking a player and pushing him back while trying to run at the quarterback is much much harder that standing your ground trying to keep someone from getting you... (not harder may have been the wrong wording but it takes less energy we'll say that) if you've ever played on an offensive line + defensive line you'll know this to be true..... and I'll say it again the colts defense can not last halfway threw the third quarter and by the fourth quarter against a nice line... there will be almost 0 sacks... I believe if you want to play the numbers game statistically 85%+ of their sacks have game halfway threw the third quarter or before....


im skipping ahead and looking at the denver indy matchup now.... Denver all season has put points up early and rode it out for wins... (thus the den vs pats game where denver threw 28 points up while the pats had 0... granted they started to make a comeback but it was physically impossible against denvers defensive style.) so how do I see this happening.... Indy has rarely been in third down situations which.... will happen against denver... and hell maybe even pittsburgh.... so you'll see the defensive coordinators whip out their trick plays on third and long that manning probably won't be able to read he'll throw some balls and nail them but the one time he doesn't denver will score. Indy can not and will not stop a powerful run attack.


blah I skip around to much and focus on too many games... plus my writing overall sucks.... I had my first class of composition today in college so we'll see if it improves but I'm sure you get the point.


Well, I was going to reply to this, but then I hit the back button by mistake on my mouse, and deleted what I wrote! FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC! I hate when that happens.

I know what the D-line is supposed to do, there's no need for me to ready myself for anything.

I'll just go with the main points: Broncos will win this week, they have the best MU against the Colts.

Last game against the Steelers Manning was 15-25 for 245 yards, 2 TD's, 1 INT, 2 Sacks, 80 yd LNG, with a 102.9 rating. In general, Manning has happy feet. He never stands still in the pocket, but it works out alright for him. There's almost no defense he can't read, so they'll be hard pressed to find one. The Steelers will not force them into many 3rd and long situations. The Broncos may, but the Steelers won't. It'll be somewhat similar to their last meeting, Indy takes this one easily.



I doubt it will be easier for the colts.. and similar nah... watch how the steelers place their linebackers in this upcomming game... hell I'd even bet the broncos will follow
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
January 12 2006 06:08 GMT
#54
The steelers have shown absolutely no reason to believe that the colts won't have a repeat performance of the last game they played. Broncos? sure. Patriots? Still have to beat em in a big game. Steelers? I'll believe it when I see it.
ApollyoN
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1297 Posts
January 12 2006 06:42 GMT
#55
On January 11 2006 19:43 Chris.K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2006 16:41 choboPEon wrote:
On January 11 2006 16:13 Romanticide wrote:
broncos are gonna win vs the pats.........people are underestimating the broncos vs the 'superbowl winning greats' that are the patriots. Yet the broncos won just like the patriots did a couple years ago? with elway yes...but plummer is dam good and the broncos dont need to rely on just elway to win this time. The broncos owned the regular season and they will own the playoffs


that was a different broncos team. this is the same pats team. not that i think the pats are going to win, but there's sound logic behind it.


also lets not forget a 4-0 preseason... so going back from there.. I believe the broncos have the best record.... don't give me crap about the preseason not counting its more proof to show whos rookies are better and obviously tada :D (pssttt we all know the colts have no depth)


Colts went 0-5 in the preseason. Yeah, its an awesome indicator
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
January 12 2006 08:06 GMT
#56
pats went 0-4 in the preseason last year i think. or some year they won it all.
:O
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-12 13:40:43
January 12 2006 13:39 GMT
#57
On January 12 2006 15:42 ApollyoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2006 19:43 Chris.K wrote:
On January 11 2006 16:41 choboPEon wrote:
On January 11 2006 16:13 Romanticide wrote:
broncos are gonna win vs the pats.........people are underestimating the broncos vs the 'superbowl winning greats' that are the patriots. Yet the broncos won just like the patriots did a couple years ago? with elway yes...but plummer is dam good and the broncos dont need to rely on just elway to win this time. The broncos owned the regular season and they will own the playoffs


that was a different broncos team. this is the same pats team. not that i think the pats are going to win, but there's sound logic behind it.


also lets not forget a 4-0 preseason... so going back from there.. I believe the broncos have the best record.... don't give me crap about the preseason not counting its more proof to show whos rookies are better and obviously tada :D (pssttt we all know the colts have no depth)


Colts went 0-5 in the preseason. Yeah, its an awesome indicator


But there are only 4 preseason games!

Also, it's HolmGREN, not Holmberg.

I really don't think the NFC has a snowball's chance in hell at winning the Superbowl this year. Their teams just don't matchup against the AFC teams. Be it the Colts, Patriots, or Broncos going. Steelers are done after this week, they aren't going to make it.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
ApollyoN
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1297 Posts
January 13 2006 10:51 GMT
#58
2005 PRESEASON
WK DATE OPPONENT
1 8/6 ATLANTA FALCONS 21 - 27
2 8/13 BUFFALO BILLS 10 - 17
3 8/20 CHICAGO BEARS 17 - 24
4 8/27 @ Denver Broncos 24 - 37
5 9/2 @ Cincinnati Bengals 0 - 38

Colts are speshul, they get to play 5 for some reason.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-14 07:49:10
January 14 2006 06:14 GMT
#59
The seattle washington game is like the most boring football game i've ever seen
*edit* thank god the game got better
GG: NO RE

seahawks better hope alexander can get healthy quick, they'll be in trouble agianst both the bears and the panthers
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-14 08:20:53
January 14 2006 08:13 GMT
#60
Here are some things about Seattle (a team I had picked to win the match) that jump out at me after watching them survive the Redskins in an ugly brawl of a match:

- 3 turnovers (2 on special teams - ie the Redskins defense really didn't have much to do with them. They were simple mental mistakes by the Hawks).
- Seattle failed to stop the Redskins twice on 4th-and-very-long conversions (4th and 20 and 4th and 16). And this against an inept offense like Washington's.
- Missed tackles resulting in huge after-catch gains by the Skins.
- Blown coverages everywhere. Too many to count.
-Missed "big" plays (like the two 4th down conversions and a couple of interception opportunities - like the one that actually got deflected into the arms of Santana Moss for the Skins' only offensive TD of this post-season.)

Seattle's defense played well overall, but they failed to come through on many of the big plays they needed to make. This was regular season football, not playoff football. Championship level teams come through on the big plays. In the playoffs, you only get a few opportunities and the champions, unsurprisngly, capitalize on almost all of them.

Hasselbeck was the difference. He willed his team to victory on this one. The Seattle offense played well against a tough, tough Washington defense. Even without Alexander, they found a way to put up points. I doubt Alexander will be out for long. He seemed in good shape on the sidelines, although he didn't play the rest of the game.

Bottom line, Seattle doesn't look like a championship level team to me. They are very good and may even make it to the Super Bowl - but only because they play in the NFC.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
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