NFL Playoff Thread (Predictions, Results etc.) - Page 3
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Romanticide
United States87 Posts
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chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
On January 11 2006 16:13 Romanticide wrote: broncos are gonna win vs the pats.........people are underestimating the broncos vs the 'superbowl winning greats' that are the patriots. Yet the broncos won just like the patriots did a couple years ago? with elway yes...but plummer is dam good and the broncos dont need to rely on just elway to win this time. The broncos owned the regular season and they will own the playoffs that was a different broncos team. this is the same pats team. not that i think the pats are going to win, but there's sound logic behind it. | ||
Chris.K
United States147 Posts
as for steelers vs colts... im not saying anything on this game because a steeler might crush peytons legs or arm ![]() panthers > bears Skins > hawks thats 2 upsets right there im 3-1 in my predictions so far.... Broncos over Pats Indy over steelers _________ Panthers over skins Broncos over Indy - third times a charm baby Broncos vs Panthers with broncos winning now I personally hope that skins lose... and seahawks crush the panthers and face the broncos in the bowl.... but personally Skins have played tougher teams and won... while keeping close games against better teams.. such as the broncos.. where they lost because gold stuck his hand up ![]() in order of defenses in the playoffs now Bears Panthers Steelers broncos Skins Pats Indy and finally hawks indy has very small players but lets face it no depth... no depth at all and their starters wouldn't even start on other teams... don't give me this crap about dungys perfect game plan.... their defense relies on its speed.... and any good offensive line will stop them dead this is why the broncos will have no trouble with their defense.... this is why the Bengals allowed no sacks on palmer in that game... vs indy and don't get me started on their offensive line... the steelers will beat the shit out of indys line and keep peyton on the move... which he isnt to accurate then but I think he'll get the job done while abusing the no huddle ![]() | ||
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
On January 11 2006 16:42 Chris.K wrote: indy has very small players but lets face it no depth... no depth at all and their starters wouldn't even start on other teams... don't give me this crap about dungys perfect game plan.... their defense relies on its speed.... and any good offensive line will stop them dead this is why the broncos will have no trouble with their defense.... this is why the Bengals allowed no sacks on palmer in that game... vs indy and don't get me started on their offensive line... the steelers will beat the shit out of indys line and keep peyton on the move... which he isnt to accurate then but I think he'll get the job done while abusing the no huddle ![]() The D line of Pitt couldn't get to him for the last game, they won't this game, either. They're simply not good enough to beat the Colts O Line, which is probably the best in all of football right now. The Colts D line is another story. The speed is exactly what makes them hard to stop. Good D-lines DO stop them, but it's hard to stop them all the time. Also, Freeney and Mathis would absolutely be starters on another team. | ||
Chris.K
United States147 Posts
On January 11 2006 17:27 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote: The D line of Pitt couldn't get to him for the last game, they won't this game, either. They're simply not good enough to beat the Colts O Line, which is probably the best in all of football right now. The Colts D line is another story. The speed is exactly what makes them hard to stop. Good D-lines DO stop them, but it's hard to stop them all the time. Also, Freeney and Mathis would absolutely be starters on another team. Ready.... The point of the defense is not always to get to the quarterback if you watch the film Manning never got a footing he was always on the move he was pressured... which made him actually make some mistakes... granted the steelers lost... but lets blame that on Ben... lets look at another example to prove this.. The broncos arguably the best defensive line rotation in the league.... how many sacks did they get... the browns linemen averaged ten I believe pryce got 4..? but still they put pressure on and force other teams into mistakes... its not about the numbers Second... mathis would not start on another team... why? because he doesn't start for the colts he plays only on certain downs because he isn't made for playing a defensive game.. they rotate him in... having him play a full game just once and you'll see that hes overrated.. Freeney on the other hand is a godsend... very good player but he is the line... you shut him down you stop the pash rush.... which to be honest i haven't seen much of the steelers O line so I can't tell you... but again im calling denver over the pats and I'll tell you they will hold freeney back.. with tom nalen leading the core you can never go wrong also the defensive line has to work much harder that the offensive line... taking a player and pushing him back while trying to run at the quarterback is much much harder that standing your ground trying to keep someone from getting you... (not harder may have been the wrong wording but it takes less energy we'll say that) if you've ever played on an offensive line + defensive line you'll know this to be true..... and I'll say it again the colts defense can not last halfway threw the third quarter and by the fourth quarter against a nice line... there will be almost 0 sacks... I believe if you want to play the numbers game statistically 85%+ of their sacks have game halfway threw the third quarter or before.... im skipping ahead and looking at the denver indy matchup now.... Denver all season has put points up early and rode it out for wins... (thus the den vs pats game where denver threw 28 points up while the pats had 0... granted they started to make a comeback but it was physically impossible against denvers defensive style.) so how do I see this happening.... Indy has rarely been in third down situations which.... will happen against denver... and hell maybe even pittsburgh.... so you'll see the defensive coordinators whip out their trick plays on third and long that manning probably won't be able to read he'll throw some balls and nail them but the one time he doesn't denver will score. Indy can not and will not stop a powerful run attack. blah I skip around to much and focus on too many games... plus my writing overall sucks.... I had my first class of composition today in college so we'll see if it improves but I'm sure you get the point. | ||
Chris.K
United States147 Posts
On January 11 2006 16:41 choboPEon wrote: that was a different broncos team. this is the same pats team. not that i think the pats are going to win, but there's sound logic behind it. also lets not forget a 4-0 preseason... so going back from there.. I believe the broncos have the best record.... don't give me crap about the preseason not counting its more proof to show whos rookies are better ![]() | ||
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
On January 11 2006 19:36 Chris.K wrote: Ready.... The point of the defense is not always to get to the quarterback if you watch the film Manning never got a footing he was always on the move he was pressured... which made him actually make some mistakes... granted the steelers lost... but lets blame that on Ben... lets look at another example to prove this.. The broncos arguably the best defensive line rotation in the league.... how many sacks did they get... the browns linemen averaged ten I believe pryce got 4..? but still they put pressure on and force other teams into mistakes... its not about the numbers Second... mathis would not start on another team... why? because he doesn't start for the colts he plays only on certain downs because he isn't made for playing a defensive game.. they rotate him in... having him play a full game just once and you'll see that hes overrated.. Freeney on the other hand is a godsend... very good player but he is the line... you shut him down you stop the pash rush.... which to be honest i haven't seen much of the steelers O line so I can't tell you... but again im calling denver over the pats and I'll tell you they will hold freeney back.. with tom nalen leading the core you can never go wrong also the defensive line has to work much harder that the offensive line... taking a player and pushing him back while trying to run at the quarterback is much much harder that standing your ground trying to keep someone from getting you... (not harder may have been the wrong wording but it takes less energy we'll say that) if you've ever played on an offensive line + defensive line you'll know this to be true..... and I'll say it again the colts defense can not last halfway threw the third quarter and by the fourth quarter against a nice line... there will be almost 0 sacks... I believe if you want to play the numbers game statistically 85%+ of their sacks have game halfway threw the third quarter or before.... im skipping ahead and looking at the denver indy matchup now.... Denver all season has put points up early and rode it out for wins... (thus the den vs pats game where denver threw 28 points up while the pats had 0... granted they started to make a comeback but it was physically impossible against denvers defensive style.) so how do I see this happening.... Indy has rarely been in third down situations which.... will happen against denver... and hell maybe even pittsburgh.... so you'll see the defensive coordinators whip out their trick plays on third and long that manning probably won't be able to read he'll throw some balls and nail them but the one time he doesn't denver will score. Indy can not and will not stop a powerful run attack. blah I skip around to much and focus on too many games... plus my writing overall sucks.... I had my first class of composition today in college so we'll see if it improves but I'm sure you get the point. Well, I was going to reply to this, but then I hit the back button by mistake on my mouse, and deleted what I wrote! FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC! I hate when that happens. I know what the D-line is supposed to do, there's no need for me to ready myself for anything. I'll just go with the main points: Broncos will win this week, they have the best MU against the Colts. Last game against the Steelers Manning was 15-25 for 245 yards, 2 TD's, 1 INT, 2 Sacks, 80 yd LNG, with a 102.9 rating. In general, Manning has happy feet. He never stands still in the pocket, but it works out alright for him. There's almost no defense he can't read, so they'll be hard pressed to find one. The Steelers will not force them into many 3rd and long situations. The Broncos may, but the Steelers won't. It'll be somewhat similar to their last meeting, Indy takes this one easily. | ||
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mensrea
Canada5062 Posts
2. Seahawks have too much momentum to lose to the worn out Redskins. 3. Carolina over the Bears in a tight, defensive brawl. Why? Because Carolina has the experience and the talent. And Grossman's way too green behind the ears to lead his team deep into the playoffs. Yeah, I know, that's what they said about Dilfer and Brady, but crap, the Ravens back then were one of the greatest defensive teams ever to play the game and as for Brady, well, ditto - minus the word "defensive". 4. Broncos v. Pats = best match of the week. Very close to call, but give the Broncos the picometer edge because of home field. This one's going to be a back and forth chess match. Definitely not for the faint of heart. (A part of me would still like the Pats to win this one - just to see a Colts - Pats rematch in the Conference finals. Oh what a match for the ages that would be.) | ||
Freezer_au
Australia1461 Posts
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
On January 11 2006 23:16 mensrea wrote: 1. Barring a major mishap (like someone "accidentally" decapitating Manning on his very first offensive play), the Colts should manhandle the Steelers with relative ease. 2. Seahawks have too much momentum to lose to the worn out Redskins. 3. Carolina over the Bears in a tight, defensive brawl. Why? Because Carolina has the experience and the talent. And Grossman's way too green behind the ears to lead his team deep into the playoffs. Yeah, I know, that's what they said about Dilfer and Brady, but crap, the Ravens back then were one of the greatest defensive teams ever to play the game and as for Brady, well, ditto - minus the word "defensive". 4. Broncos v. Pats = best match of the week. Very close to call, but give the Broncos the picometer edge because of home field. This one's going to be a back and forth chess match. Definitely not for the faint of heart. (A part of me would still like the Pats to win this one - just to see a Colts - Pats rematch in the Conference finals. Oh what a match for the ages that would be.) The Bears this year are one of the best defensive teams ever, as well. Allowing 12.6 ppg is not an easy task by any stretch of the imagination, and that number is a bit skewed due to the final game in which all their starters were rested. That defense is going to have something to prove this weekend, and I would be scared if I were the opponent. Broncos should win, and it'll still be a good matchup with the Colts-Broncos. The last two years the Broncos were dismantled by the Colts in their matchup, it's redemption time for them this year. (Even though I really would not mind Manning winning it all, in the least, because that will solidify his place as the best QB of the modern era, and a top 5 QB of all time [top 5 is debatable, who exactly goes where, though, because of the differences throughout the era]). (NOTE: This is not a reply directed AT you, but I'm quoting you so people know why I'm talking about certain things) | ||
omgbnetsux
United States3749 Posts
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Chris.K
United States147 Posts
Holmberg coached the packers during their super bowl victories.. and the time where denver played green bay... Shanahan vs Holmberg... two west coast offense coaches... back at the top dueling it out... ![]() | ||
Chris.K
United States147 Posts
On January 11 2006 22:24 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote: Well, I was going to reply to this, but then I hit the back button by mistake on my mouse, and deleted what I wrote! FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC! I hate when that happens. I know what the D-line is supposed to do, there's no need for me to ready myself for anything. I'll just go with the main points: Broncos will win this week, they have the best MU against the Colts. Last game against the Steelers Manning was 15-25 for 245 yards, 2 TD's, 1 INT, 2 Sacks, 80 yd LNG, with a 102.9 rating. In general, Manning has happy feet. He never stands still in the pocket, but it works out alright for him. There's almost no defense he can't read, so they'll be hard pressed to find one. The Steelers will not force them into many 3rd and long situations. The Broncos may, but the Steelers won't. It'll be somewhat similar to their last meeting, Indy takes this one easily. I doubt it will be easier for the colts.. and similar nah... watch how the steelers place their linebackers in this upcomming game... hell I'd even bet the broncos will follow | ||
KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
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ApollyoN
United States1297 Posts
On January 11 2006 19:43 Chris.K wrote: also lets not forget a 4-0 preseason... so going back from there.. I believe the broncos have the best record.... don't give me crap about the preseason not counting its more proof to show whos rookies are better ![]() Colts went 0-5 in the preseason. Yeah, its an awesome indicator ![]() | ||
chobopeon
United States7342 Posts
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
On January 12 2006 15:42 ApollyoN wrote: Colts went 0-5 in the preseason. Yeah, its an awesome indicator ![]() But there are only 4 preseason games! Also, it's HolmGREN, not Holmberg. I really don't think the NFC has a snowball's chance in hell at winning the Superbowl this year. Their teams just don't matchup against the AFC teams. Be it the Colts, Patriots, or Broncos going. Steelers are done after this week, they aren't going to make it. | ||
ApollyoN
United States1297 Posts
WK DATE OPPONENT 1 8/6 ATLANTA FALCONS 21 - 27 2 8/13 BUFFALO BILLS 10 - 17 3 8/20 CHICAGO BEARS 17 - 24 4 8/27 @ Denver Broncos 24 - 37 5 9/2 @ Cincinnati Bengals 0 - 38 Colts are speshul, they get to play 5 for some reason. | ||
KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
*edit* thank god the game got better GG: NO RE seahawks better hope alexander can get healthy quick, they'll be in trouble agianst both the bears and the panthers | ||
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mensrea
Canada5062 Posts
- 3 turnovers (2 on special teams - ie the Redskins defense really didn't have much to do with them. They were simple mental mistakes by the Hawks). - Seattle failed to stop the Redskins twice on 4th-and-very-long conversions (4th and 20 and 4th and 16). And this against an inept offense like Washington's. - Missed tackles resulting in huge after-catch gains by the Skins. - Blown coverages everywhere. Too many to count. -Missed "big" plays (like the two 4th down conversions and a couple of interception opportunities - like the one that actually got deflected into the arms of Santana Moss for the Skins' only offensive TD of this post-season.) Seattle's defense played well overall, but they failed to come through on many of the big plays they needed to make. This was regular season football, not playoff football. Championship level teams come through on the big plays. In the playoffs, you only get a few opportunities and the champions, unsurprisngly, capitalize on almost all of them. Hasselbeck was the difference. He willed his team to victory on this one. The Seattle offense played well against a tough, tough Washington defense. Even without Alexander, they found a way to put up points. I doubt Alexander will be out for long. He seemed in good shape on the sidelines, although he didn't play the rest of the game. Bottom line, Seattle doesn't look like a championship level team to me. They are very good and may even make it to the Super Bowl - but only because they play in the NFC. | ||
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