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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 10:11:14
September 23 2013 10:11 GMT
#1601

On September 23 2013 11:31 Sermokala wrote:


Have yet to try and of the barbarian factions (Iceni, Averni and Suebi). They have less appeal for me, are they any fun to play ?


Iceni is super easy because of your starting position in britain
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 10:33:28
September 23 2013 10:33 GMT
#1602
delete
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 11:05:31
September 23 2013 10:56 GMT
#1603
On September 23 2013 11:12 Xxio wrote:
So how does influence/politics/promotion mechanics work?

Horse archers, hm. Regular/light cavalry?


Basically, each time a general gain rank and age, you can "secure a promotion" for him. (Faction tab, click on your guys and bottom right) This cost money and influence. In return, he gains gravitas and bonuses (tax, movement and what not). Gravitas and ambition will gain you influence back.

The thing is, if you use a general from another side than yours, they will secure promotion for themselves, and gain influence. So the best strategy is to use this general as garrisson army and never let them gain too much ranks. It is a tradeoff because it will slow down your expansion.

Against horse archer, war dogs are amazing.

Edit: Since my civil war, it seems that I can no longer assassinate/ secure promotion / spread rumours and stuff... Like the button are empty, i just have empty boxes... Anyone knows if its a bug ? Can't seem to find it on google
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
September 23 2013 12:05 GMT
#1604
On September 23 2013 19:56 aXa wrote:
Against horse archer, war dogs are amazing.


I'd've never guessed this. O_O That makes me want to try it out and see. I assume you mean to at least slow down the bow cav until heavier troops arrive?
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
September 23 2013 12:08 GMT
#1605
On September 23 2013 21:05 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 19:56 aXa wrote:
Against horse archer, war dogs are amazing.


I'd've never guessed this. O_O That makes me want to try it out and see. I assume you mean to at least slow down the bow cav until heavier troops arrive?


Dogs are faster than cav and actually kill them. Its amazing. The lighter the cav, the better for the dogs.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
September 23 2013 12:14 GMT
#1606
On September 23 2013 21:08 aXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 21:05 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On September 23 2013 19:56 aXa wrote:
Against horse archer, war dogs are amazing.


I'd've never guessed this. O_O That makes me want to try it out and see. I assume you mean to at least slow down the bow cav until heavier troops arrive?


Dogs are faster than cav and actually kill them. Its amazing. The lighter the cav, the better for the dogs.


That's really interesting, huh.... I've rarely used them, but always saw war dogs as infantry-shredding specialists. Never as anti-cav. 'Least I've finally got an answer to stinking bow cavalry.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 12:59:02
September 23 2013 12:57 GMT
#1607
On September 23 2013 21:14 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 21:08 aXa wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:05 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On September 23 2013 19:56 aXa wrote:
Against horse archer, war dogs are amazing.


I'd've never guessed this. O_O That makes me want to try it out and see. I assume you mean to at least slow down the bow cav until heavier troops arrive?


Dogs are faster than cav and actually kill them. Its amazing. The lighter the cav, the better for the dogs.


That's really interesting, huh.... I've rarely used them, but always saw war dogs as infantry-shredding specialists. Never as anti-cav. 'Least I've finally got an answer to stinking bow cavalry.


War dogs are very good against light infantery or archer, that's for sure. They are very bad against heavy spear units, can do some damage against heavy infantery if they are already engaged.

I always use them in the following manner when I play quick battle as rome: I engage the ennemy cav with my inferior cav number, but use my war dogs to win the fight anyway. If there is horse archer, I just wait for them to come close and then unleash the hounds.

I have a replay if you guys want
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
September 23 2013 12:59 GMT
#1608
On September 23 2013 21:57 aXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 21:14 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:08 aXa wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:05 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On September 23 2013 19:56 aXa wrote:
Against horse archer, war dogs are amazing.


I'd've never guessed this. O_O That makes me want to try it out and see. I assume you mean to at least slow down the bow cav until heavier troops arrive?


Dogs are faster than cav and actually kill them. Its amazing. The lighter the cav, the better for the dogs.


That's really interesting, huh.... I've rarely used them, but always saw war dogs as infantry-shredding specialists. Never as anti-cav. 'Least I've finally got an answer to stinking bow cavalry.


War dogs are very good against light infantery or archer, that's for sure. They are very bad against heavy spear units, can do some damage against heavy infantery if they are already engaged.

I always use them in the following manner when I play quick battle as rome: I engage the ennemy cav with my inferior cav number, but use my war dogs to win the fight anyway. If there is horse archer, I just wait for them to come close and then unleash the hounds.


Have you tried war dogs against chariots yet? And are they faster than even those?
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
September 23 2013 13:33 GMT
#1609
On September 23 2013 19:56 aXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 11:12 Xxio wrote:
So how does influence/politics/promotion mechanics work?

Horse archers, hm. Regular/light cavalry?


Basically, each time a general gain rank and age, you can "secure a promotion" for him. (Faction tab, click on your guys and bottom right) This cost money and influence. In return, he gains gravitas and bonuses (tax, movement and what not). Gravitas and ambition will gain you influence back.

The thing is, if you use a general from another side than yours, they will secure promotion for themselves, and gain influence. So the best strategy is to use this general as garrisson army and never let them gain too much ranks. It is a tradeoff because it will slow down your expansion.

Against horse archer, war dogs are amazing.

Edit: Since my civil war, it seems that I can no longer assassinate/ secure promotion / spread rumours and stuff... Like the button are empty, i just have empty boxes... Anyone knows if its a bug ? Can't seem to find it on google

Happened for me as well when playing Gallic Confederation. So it seems to be normal
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 17:24:09
September 23 2013 17:23 GMT
#1610
On September 23 2013 21:59 cLAN.Anax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 21:57 aXa wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:14 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:08 aXa wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:05 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On September 23 2013 19:56 aXa wrote:
Against horse archer, war dogs are amazing.


I'd've never guessed this. O_O That makes me want to try it out and see. I assume you mean to at least slow down the bow cav until heavier troops arrive?


Dogs are faster than cav and actually kill them. Its amazing. The lighter the cav, the better for the dogs.


That's really interesting, huh.... I've rarely used them, but always saw war dogs as infantry-shredding specialists. Never as anti-cav. 'Least I've finally got an answer to stinking bow cavalry.


War dogs are very good against light infantery or archer, that's for sure. They are very bad against heavy spear units, can do some damage against heavy infantery if they are already engaged.

I always use them in the following manner when I play quick battle as rome: I engage the ennemy cav with my inferior cav number, but use my war dogs to win the fight anyway. If there is horse archer, I just wait for them to come close and then unleash the hounds.


Have you tried war dogs against chariots yet? And are they faster than even those?


No sorry I didn't try against chariots.

Happened for me as well when playing Gallic Confederation. So it seems to be normal


Ok thanks. Does this means I can't have another civil war? it feel weirds though.
RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
September 23 2013 17:34 GMT
#1611
At first I thought they disabled the fucked up Diplomacy system coz it sucked. Because right when I finished the Civil-War Patch 1 hit. But obviously other people have the same issue. So it's like: Hey you are Emperor/BestestChieftain there are no other powers in your country. Weird and unreasonable. But it fits into all the rushed parts of this game...
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 17:44:50
September 23 2013 17:42 GMT
#1612
On September 23 2013 18:40 Divine-Sneaker wrote:
To say it's badly optimized is an understatement, but that's also as far as it goes. I was able to run the game smoothly on low on my laptop so it definitely isn't as bad as some people want to make it.


That's because the game can still lag badly on high end machines. It lags pretty badly on my desktop depending on actions I take. For an example, the game has numerous pathfinding bugs where something in the logic goes wrong and goes on some infinite loop that taxes processing power. The game goes to a completely crawl until that unit somehow manages to get somewhere else. There are plenty of instances where the game just slows to a complete crawl that requires the game to be closed and restarted again. Sometimes, the extreme lag does clear up on its own, though.

On September 24 2013 02:34 RolleMcKnolle wrote:
At first I thought they disabled the fucked up Diplomacy system coz it sucked. Because right when I finished the Civil-War Patch 1 hit. But obviously other people have the same issue. So it's like: Hey you are Emperor/BestestChieftain there are no other powers in your country. Weird and unreasonable. But it fits into all the rushed parts of this game...


The internal politics system isn't really a real fleshed out part of the game. It's just a tacky addition to slow down the player in the midgame. CA is known to do that with Shogun 2's realm divide being the last one.
TrickyGilligan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States641 Posts
September 23 2013 17:53 GMT
#1613
On September 24 2013 02:34 RolleMcKnolle wrote:
At first I thought they disabled the fucked up Diplomacy system coz it sucked. Because right when I finished the Civil-War Patch 1 hit. But obviously other people have the same issue. So it's like: Hey you are Emperor/BestestChieftain there are no other powers in your country. Weird and unreasonable. But it fits into all the rushed parts of this game...


It's more fleshed out for Rome and Carthage, since it explains that by winning the civil war you overthrow the Republic and declare yourself Emperor. For the other factions, it just kind of happens. But you don't have to worry about faction politics after a civil war, unless you're Rome/Carthage and choose to preserve the Republic after winning. The other factions don't get that choice since they weren't Republics to begin with.
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." -Groucho Marx
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13930 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 18:00:01
September 23 2013 17:59 GMT
#1614
On September 23 2013 19:11 Skilledblob wrote:

Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 11:31 Sermokala wrote:


Have yet to try and of the barbarian factions (Iceni, Averni and Suebi). They have less appeal for me, are they any fun to play ?


Iceni is super easy because of your starting position in britain

This was improperly quoted and I did not post this.

also war dogs +legionars. Wtf super army that kills everything.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
September 23 2013 18:30 GMT
#1615
Is there a way to stop the camera from resetting to the default angle whenever you zoom in or out in a battle? I always try to tilt the camera to get more of a top-down view but as soon as I zoom, it goes back to the old angled view.
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
September 23 2013 21:19 GMT
#1616
On September 24 2013 02:42 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 02:34 RolleMcKnolle wrote:
At first I thought they disabled the fucked up Diplomacy system coz it sucked. Because right when I finished the Civil-War Patch 1 hit. But obviously other people have the same issue. So it's like: Hey you are Emperor/BestestChieftain there are no other powers in your country. Weird and unreasonable. But it fits into all the rushed parts of this game...


The internal politics system isn't really a real fleshed out part of the game. It's just a tacky addition to slow down the player in the midgame. CA is known to do that with Shogun 2's realm divide being the last one.


Realm divide at least had some logic attached to it. Everyone would want to gang up on your for sheer survival.

On September 24 2013 03:30 Sayle wrote:
Is there a way to stop the camera from resetting to the default angle whenever you zoom in or out in a battle? I always try to tilt the camera to get more of a top-down view but as soon as I zoom, it goes back to the old angled view.


This guide may fix your problem by avoiding it altogether. It's a tad more to get used to, but it's ultimately a more freeing system than before.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
September 23 2013 23:55 GMT
#1617
On September 23 2013 18:14 kiryah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 14:12 Xxio wrote:
I play with directx10 all low settings (medium army size) and it's fine.
I really like the fact that it's hard to max out. It will still look really pretty years down the road.



Did you specifically choose directx10 or that just comes with which graphic settings you chose? In other words, how do I know if I am using dx10 or dx11 and how can I choose?


You have to edit a game file to turn directx11 off. This article explains how to do it http://www.unigamesity.com/how-to-fix-total-war-rome-2-crashes-freezes-and-other-problems/
KTY
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11507 Posts
September 24 2013 01:22 GMT
#1618
On September 24 2013 02:23 aXa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 21:59 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:57 aXa wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:14 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:08 aXa wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:05 cLAN.Anax wrote:
On September 23 2013 19:56 aXa wrote:
Against horse archer, war dogs are amazing.


I'd've never guessed this. O_O That makes me want to try it out and see. I assume you mean to at least slow down the bow cav until heavier troops arrive?


Dogs are faster than cav and actually kill them. Its amazing. The lighter the cav, the better for the dogs.


That's really interesting, huh.... I've rarely used them, but always saw war dogs as infantry-shredding specialists. Never as anti-cav. 'Least I've finally got an answer to stinking bow cavalry.


War dogs are very good against light infantery or archer, that's for sure. They are very bad against heavy spear units, can do some damage against heavy infantery if they are already engaged.

I always use them in the following manner when I play quick battle as rome: I engage the ennemy cav with my inferior cav number, but use my war dogs to win the fight anyway. If there is horse archer, I just wait for them to come close and then unleash the hounds.


Have you tried war dogs against chariots yet? And are they faster than even those?


No sorry I didn't try against chariots.

Show nested quote +
Happened for me as well when playing Gallic Confederation. So it seems to be normal


Ok thanks. Does this means I can't have another civil war? it feel weirds though.


In Rome 1, normal bowman were pretty good against horse archers, as they had more range and would win a ranged battle against them every time. Don't know if you can convince the horses in Rome 2 to fight your regular archers.
BliptiX
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada324 Posts
September 26 2013 00:22 GMT
#1619
[image loading]

After finally ending wars on 2 out of 3 fronts a civil war happened. I only have 1 fleet and about 5 armies.
aXa
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
France748 Posts
September 26 2013 06:40 GMT
#1620
On September 26 2013 09:22 BliptiX wrote:
[image loading]

After finally ending wars on 2 out of 3 fronts a civil war happened. I only have 1 fleet and about 5 armies.


I know the feeling ! Group 2 armies together and fight at a bridge if you can.
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