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ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
October 19 2014 23:01 GMT
#1701
Even 2 hour a day won't you get anywhere...
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
October 22 2014 07:27 GMT
#1702
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/heavensward/

O: expansion!
There is no one like you in the universe.
carraway
Profile Joined March 2011
264 Posts
October 22 2014 18:05 GMT
#1703
One of my FC members and I were on the live stream for an interview with Camate: http://www.twitch.tv/finalfantasyxiv/b/579807571?t=1h35m10s
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
October 27 2014 18:58 GMT
#1704
2.4 hype anyone?

From the looks of it, crafting is going to be hardcore. Like Wildstar "causes need not apply" hardcore. Possibly even "paying for server transfers because no one on my server can craft 4* equipment" hardcore. I'm stoaked :D
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
October 28 2014 13:34 GMT
#1705
Too bad 4* equipment still worse than free stuff you can get in 30 min.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-03 21:50:38
November 03 2014 21:49 GMT
#1706
Kinda impulse bought despite having no time to play league/archeage/CSGO as it is anyway...But fuck it its final fantasy and i lurvvve FF :3

Heres my char, i tried to make him "cloud-esque" without being completely unoriginal

[image loading]

EDIT: Literally just noticed i have a new skill at the end of my bars. Yay! Something to look forward to tomorrow lol.
Useless wet fish.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
November 05 2014 00:24 GMT
#1707
On November 04 2014 06:49 Capped wrote:
Kinda impulse bought despite having no time to play league/archeage/CSGO as it is anyway...But fuck it its final fantasy and i lurvvve FF :3

Heres my char, i tried to make him "cloud-esque" without being completely unoriginal

[image loading]

EDIT: Literally just noticed i have a new skill at the end of my bars. Yay! Something to look forward to tomorrow lol.


I suggest that out of those games, you stick to FFXIV. It's an amazing game, and in my opinion the best MMO around at the moment. Certainly blows ArcheAge out of the water.
I like words.
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
November 11 2014 04:41 GMT
#1708
My thoughts on this game after playing the trial:

(1) Lalafells look and sound awesome but their short stature gives way to pretty bad viewing angles. It makes battles and interactions with NPCs less comfortable. I ended up having to zoom out quite a lot, which wasn't great either.

(2) The instancing and lack of a seamless world detracts from the gaming experience. The loading is relatively fast and there are quick travel methods that minimize the wait, but it is an issue nevertheless.

(3) The game looks good but wooden (?). The buildings are fine, but the way that characters and monsters look somehow distracts me from being immersed in the game.

(4) Music is meh. But I didn't like the music in Guild Wars 2 either, so take it with a grain of salt.


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To be fair, I'd probably find the last two issues everywhere else. Plus games in this specific genre require too much time investment (like the tenth time I've realized this) ...

... let this be a record that I will not touch traditional MMORPGs again (anything like WoW, Archeage, Maplestory etc.).
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
November 11 2014 08:36 GMT
#1709
On November 11 2014 13:41 domane wrote:
My thoughts on this game after playing the trial:

(1) Lalafells look and sound awesome but their short stature gives way to pretty bad viewing angles. It makes battles and interactions with NPCs less comfortable. I ended up having to zoom out quite a lot, which wasn't great either.

(2) The instancing and lack of a seamless world detracts from the gaming experience. The loading is relatively fast and there are quick travel methods that minimize the wait, but it is an issue nevertheless.

(3) The game looks good but wooden (?). The buildings are fine, but the way that characters and monsters look somehow distracts me from being immersed in the game.

(4) Music is meh. But I didn't like the music in Guild Wars 2 either, so take it with a grain of salt.


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To be fair, I'd probably find the last two issues everywhere else. Plus games in this specific genre require too much time investment (like the tenth time I've realized this) ...

... let this be a record that I will not touch traditional MMORPGs again (anything like WoW, Archeage, Maplestory etc.).


The first two I can somewhat understand, but the music and immersion?!

They go so far to immerse you in the game through dialogue, and the world looks gorgeous and alive.

And how dare you criticize the music?!

...No, more seriously, I cannot relate to you at all regarding the music. A large part of it was composed by Nobuo Uematsu, and he is a pure genius. The guy who gave us the musics from almost all FFs prior to... XII I think? Even the other music composed by the other guy (whose name I can't remember) is fantastic.

There's only one theme I don't like in FFXIV, and it's the theme from Phase 2 of the Shiva boss battle, which was introduced in 2.4.
I like words.
carraway
Profile Joined March 2011
264 Posts
November 12 2014 09:23 GMT
#1710
On November 11 2014 13:41 domane wrote:
My thoughts on this game after playing the trial:

(1) Lalafells look and sound awesome but their short stature gives way to pretty bad viewing angles. It makes battles and interactions with NPCs less comfortable. I ended up having to zoom out quite a lot, which wasn't great either.


You can adjust the "3rd person camera angle" in the settings to alleviate this issue.

As for music, it may not necessarily be for everyone, but just from 2.4 I'm a huge fan of the music for Shiva phase 1, turn 12, and turn 13 phase 2 onwards.
ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
February 22 2015 13:45 GMT
#1711
Wondering if any TLers play on Adamantoise PM me if you do
LiquipediaI'm the strongest Dragon that you've ever seen, You're gonna die motherfucker, I take up five screens. -Kraid
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
March 28 2015 11:46 GMT
#1712
I'm not really an MMO fan, but I played the free trial for a bit (I'm level 11) and I have a few questions.

1: Most quests are really dumb. I just gave up on playing for today because for a main storyline quest, I had to walk outside for 10 meters, feed 4 "starving children" a pretzel individually and that completed the quest. That was the dumbest quest I have ever done in any game. Does crap like this continue for the rest of the game?

2: I'm not a fan of how equipment progresses. So far the upgrades have been fairly small, despite the relatively big difference in level requirements. Do the numbers keep going up slowly, or does it pick up pace?

3: I'm not much of a social gamer, I play games for the gameplay and prefer to socialise in the 'real world'. Is it viable to keep playing this game (mostly) solo?

Even though I only played WoW for 2 weeks or so, I keep thinking to myself that I enjoyed that game a lot more. But I'm a huge fan on the single-player FF's, so I'm willing to give this game another chance. Can anyone give me some advice?
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ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
March 28 2015 11:58 GMT
#1713
On March 28 2015 20:46 bartus88 wrote:
I'm not really an MMO fan, but I played the free trial for a bit (I'm level 11) and I have a few questions.

1: Most quests are really dumb. I just gave up on playing for today because for a main storyline quest, I had to walk outside for 10 meters, feed 4 "starving children" a pretzel individually and that completed the quest. That was the dumbest quest I have ever done in any game. Does crap like this continue for the rest of the game?

2: I'm not a fan of how equipment progresses. So far the upgrades have been fairly small, despite the relatively big difference in level requirements. Do the numbers keep going up slowly, or does it pick up pace?

3: I'm not much of a social gamer, I play games for the gameplay and prefer to socialise in the 'real world'. Is it viable to keep playing this game (mostly) solo?

Even though I only played WoW for 2 weeks or so, I keep thinking to myself that I enjoyed that game a lot more. But I'm a huge fan on the single-player FF's, so I'm willing to give this game another chance. Can anyone give me some advice?


1. All MMOs have these quests, especially at low level, Around 15 the main story quests tend to get more serious and jammed pack full of FF story and cutscenes, Side quests will tend to be 33/33/33 Silly/Serious/Mundane

2. From 1-50 it will be slow, although green/pink dungeon at say 18 will be much higher than a white 18 piece, at 50 Stats will be much higher for raid/dungeon gear

3. You can Solo all quests and participate in all Fates with no socializing, You can Solo que into all dungeons you unlock, and you can solo que into previous raids with a buff but you will be expected to have already learned the basics of whatever you que into

There's also a ton of other Solo shit you can do at 15+ or 50, like sponsored hunts or treasure hunting, triple triad or chocobo racing, the list goes on
LiquipediaI'm the strongest Dragon that you've ever seen, You're gonna die motherfucker, I take up five screens. -Kraid
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-28 13:02:24
March 28 2015 12:50 GMT
#1714
On March 28 2015 20:46 bartus88 wrote:
I'm not really an MMO fan, but I played the free trial for a bit (I'm level 11) and I have a few questions.

1: Most quests are really dumb. I just gave up on playing for today because for a main storyline quest, I had to walk outside for 10 meters, feed 4 "starving children" a pretzel individually and that completed the quest. That was the dumbest quest I have ever done in any game. Does crap like this continue for the rest of the game?

2: I'm not a fan of how equipment progresses. So far the upgrades have been fairly small, despite the relatively big difference in level requirements. Do the numbers keep going up slowly, or does it pick up pace?

3: I'm not much of a social gamer, I play games for the gameplay and prefer to socialise in the 'real world'. Is it viable to keep playing this game (mostly) solo?

Even though I only played WoW for 2 weeks or so, I keep thinking to myself that I enjoyed that game a lot more. But I'm a huge fan on the single-player FF's, so I'm willing to give this game another chance. Can anyone give me some advice?


Glad to see you're trying out the game!

FFXIV is a great, great game, though based on the questions you're asking and on what you're saying, it doesn't look like you'll enjoy yourself on FFXIV.

Here's for your questions:

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1. A significant amount of quests can be considered dumb. It's a lot of running back and forth, doing X of Y, kill X of Y. The upside of the last two is that the amounts required for any quest never go above 10 (or rarely). But yes, a lot of the basic quests and story quests are like that. Not all of them mind you, but a fair amount.

2. I'd say equipment progression is one of the weak points of the game. It's not bad per se, just unimaginative. The real progression, as you can imagine, comes in late game, once you reach 50. Early on, you just get better gear as your level increases, and that's about it. Pretty standard I believe. In the later stages of the game, it comes down to "gear level", more commonly known as "item level" or "ilvl". Where the game is now, the most powerful gear is pretty damn strong, and the older content is being facerolled by people who have the latest gear. It's not incredibly hard to acquire either, unless you're shooting for absolute best with Coil gear (T10-T13). Overall, the gear system is effective but simplistic, and lacks variety. Crafting is absolute beast though. It's a game within the game, and anyone who gets into it loves it. It's really deep and well thought-out.

3. FFXIV was heavily designed around group-play. All of the end-game content is meant to be played in groups, or ideally in statics (premade groups). You can rely on the Duty Finder to find random groups and so on, but when it comes down to it, there is little content you can do by yourself, just your character alone. This is a by-design choice, it's not really circumvetable or meant to be avoided. If you want to just kind of be your own man, clearing content solo, FFXIV isn't the ideal game for it.

Long story short: if you are playing FFXIV and expecting it to be a more immersive version of FF7 or the older FFs, you're going to be sorely disappointed. It's an excellent game, and easily the number 2 sub-based MMO on the market right now, but it may not be for you.


I would advise you to stick to it and see if you like it. The story is on FF level, it's excellent albeit a bit cheesy at times. It's generally darker than most MMOs and not as black and white, especially in the latest patches. I feel like I wouldn't do the game justice if I gave you a list of its strong points, so here goes:

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- The game is gorgeous, and about to be even more so. DX11 support is coming with Heavensward
- Heavensward (the expansion) is about to come out. June 23rd, on preorder right now. It's looking great so far.
- The game receives updates at a frenetic pace. One major patch every three months. Every patch features about as much content as WoW would release in an entire year. Some patches would have been legitimate expansions, really.
- The game itself goes on sale very often, and can be acquired at a cheap price. I've seen many people buy it for like $15.
- The content of the game is pretty damn good. Yes, it's group-centric, but the end-game fights are challenging and interesting. The dungeons (in most cases) are really good as well.
- The community is REALLY nice. I've been playing for a little over a year now, and 95% of the people I encounter are ridiculously friendly. It's by far one of the most, if not the most, friendly communities out there.
- The devs are excellent at communication, Yoshida especially. They do a lot of back and forth with the community, and there's a solid interaction between them and us. They do the Letter from the Producer, which is the high point of all that.
- There's a very active reddit community as well. You should check it out.


That's about all I can think of right now without sounding like a total fanboy. As for advices, this is what I would suggest:

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- Keep playing. Ideally, I would tell you to stick to it until you're 50, because that's when the game truly begins, but if you're seriously tired of it by 35-40, then maybe you should just let it go.
- Unless you're really absolutely misanthropic and hate the idea of pairing up with people, try to join a Free Company. They are FFXIV's guilds, and joining one helps a lot. You'll find people to play with, players who will help you clear content, and e-friends in general. Failing that, try joining a Linkshell (basically big groups of players with their own chat room, but not quite a FC), or using the Party Finder.
- Don't be afraid to try out different classes. The game's design heavily favours that. You can use the Gear List to save the classes you try and switch easily. I don't know what you're playing, but it's possible that going from DPS to healer/tank or vice versa could help you enjoy the game more and see it under a new light. FFXIV has an incredibly flexible class system, and you should explore it.
- Join communities if you feel like it. Reddit would be good, they're active and most everyone there is friendly.
- Do everything the game has to offer. By sticking to the main story line and the main game, you'd be losing out on a lot of things. Crafting especially. I can never seem to find the time for it, but crafting in FFXIV is top notch. Anyone who gets into it comes out a total crafting addict (not in a bad way).
- TRY THE GOLD SAUCER! YOU SIMPLY MUST.


Again, that's all I can think of without sounding like a neurotic fanboy. Well, I hope that helps!

I'll be glad to tell you more if you have other questions though.
I like words.
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
March 29 2015 09:02 GMT
#1715
Thanks for the response guys! It's good to hear the crafting part of the game is pretty good and I like the idea of being able to play every class. I'll give it another shot and try to see past some of my annoyances.
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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
April 01 2015 13:48 GMT
#1716
Those ending cs.....It seems weird to suggest to play an mmo for the story but wwwoooowwwww I am so enthralled right now. Loving it!
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
April 09 2015 23:42 GMT
#1717
i love this game, but i had to quit because all the servers are in NA, which i think is really stupid for a company like SE that has a mmo with such high potential.
carraway
Profile Joined March 2011
264 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 04:37:08
April 11 2015 04:35 GMT
#1718
On April 10 2015 08:42 LaNague wrote:
i love this game, but i had to quit because all the servers are in NA, which i think is really stupid for a company like SE that has a mmo with such high potential.


Yeah, the server situation is really shitty, but I think a lot of it has to do with how much is processed server-side instead of client-side. I raid in an NA-based FC with Europeans, an Australian, and an American living in Japan -- and we all use a tunneler/VPN, even those of us who live on the US east coast.

Did you hear the news from the London Fanfest about a planned proper EU data center?
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
April 11 2015 16:25 GMT
#1719
Heavensward expansion trailer

i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 17:49:35
April 11 2015 16:43 GMT
#1720
On April 11 2015 13:35 carraway wrote:
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On April 10 2015 08:42 LaNague wrote:
i love this game, but i had to quit because all the servers are in NA, which i think is really stupid for a company like SE that has a mmo with such high potential.


Yeah, the server situation is really shitty, but I think a lot of it has to do with how much is processed server-side instead of client-side. I raid in an NA-based FC with Europeans, an Australian, and an American living in Japan -- and we all use a tunneler/VPN, even those of us who live on the US east coast.

Did you hear the news from the London Fanfest about a planned proper EU data center?


that was half a year ago and they didnt mention it once after that, so....







I am trying out a VPN service, so far it works really well, spells cast when running interrupt after 200ms instead of 600ms, ill have to see how this thing works though, i cant imagine they let me just use it for free without DCing me randomly or something
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