XCOM: Enemy Unknown - Page 57

On October 30 2012 03:05 Maxyim wrote:


Right. I do think that the first mission goes out of its way to give you one of each class (I have certainly never seen more than one of a specific class at a time). My gut instinct is that it looks at your mans and determines who was closest to each role if everyone survives and is eligible for promotion. Results start to vary when only 3 are eligible, and I have seen some strange things, like a squaddie who had mostly close-ranged activity get a sniper promotion (unfortunately, she was also wounded for 18 days and I had to scrap that game). Case in point - plan on replaying the first mission a good bit as a good start is your best chance for 2x laser sniper rifle mans in time for the terror mission.



Source, please? I have played the first mission 20+ times now, and have routinely seen a pattern. It is rather obvious when you have only one person using a grenade and that person gets Heavy promotion many times in a row... As I said above, I am less certain about assault vs sniper vs support for the first mission, but I have successfully "forced" the game to give me a sniper by feeding long-range kills to a rookie, and have seen several times that a medikit rookie that is filling the place of a wounded support gets support promotion after a battle where he uses the medikit and qualifies for a promotion.

On November 01 2012 00:16 DaCruise wrote:
So lately I´ve been trying to take a more carefull approach using lots of overwatch but more often than not this happens:

On October 30 2012 22:12 -Archangel- wrote:
@Maxyim: I am sorry but your starting base strategy is horrible. Only efficient build is start with NA, excavate and build power right away. First abduction mission go for engineers, build workshop after. Then you need to get an ufo mission 21+ days before council report (if not restart). Do UFO, sell stuff (almost everything, be sure to sell weapon parts and alloys last if you need to). Build 3-4 satellites. Do more missions or sell more stuff and build uplink at 15 days to council report. If possible make sure panic rises in africa from abductions. Put 3 satellites on africa before month 2. If you build 4 put it on some high panic one or high money one. Next months build one uplink and 3 satellites per month (and whatever else you might need like workshops and power).

On November 01 2012 02:36 Maxyim wrote:


1) Why start with NA? It's easily the worst country bonus, and the extra credits do not compensate you for not having the workshop discount.

2) I am incorporating the early workshop in my build in order to be able to react properly to a 21+ day UFO. That said, the hardest part of the whole ordeal is getting a healthy sniper, heavy and support from first mission. It's literally taking me 20-30 tries to achieve this. Therefore, scrapping the game when the 21+ day UFO fails to appear isn't really an option.

3) I'm starting to think that it is critical to get +scientists from council mission or 2nd abduction in order to be able to get enough research to have precision lasers by first terror, and phoenix cannon / dodge consumable by third UFO. Also, I wonder if it is better to get Asia bonus before Africa in a game where you do not get 21+ day UFO (for officer training upgrades).

On November 01 2012 02:51 -Archangel- wrote:
Rookies suck at overwatch. Don't expect much.



Because Europe saves you whole 65 credits (workshop is 130). NA gets more then 65 at start then EU. Also you will be building and maintaining interceptors during the game more then workshops and laboratories.
EU is worst start.

On November 01 2012 03:01 Maxyim wrote:


How much more does NA get at start? I thought that all locations started with the same amount.

On November 01 2012 08:19 Spazer wrote:
FYI overwatch gives you a -15% hit penalty. Considering that most rookies have about 40-60% hit at range, that means overwatch is fucking awful for them.

Incidentally this is also why Opportunist is godly.

On November 01 2012 10:29 Maxyim wrote:


Aliens are still less likely to move into your overwatch (obviously does not apply to a roaming pack that has not seen you yet). Agreed on opportunist; this is why I feel that 2 early leveled snipers are essential for smooth combat without benefit of reloading.

On November 01 2012 11:34 Spazer wrote:

Aliens are less likely to move into overwatch? As far as I've seen they don't particularly care - they wander into my line of fire all the time. Personally, I think they prioritize finding a firing position above all else.

On November 01 2012 12:26 Spazer wrote:
Now that you mention it, I do remember times when the aliens opted to not kill me and just went into overwatch. I generally just attributed it to shitty AI though lol.

Speaking of AI, I also noticed that the AI doesn't know how to deal with suppression at all. In my entire playthrough, the other aliens never even tried disrupting the suppressor, and the suppressed alien just went into overwatch or did nothing.

On November 01 2012 06:56 -Archangel- wrote:
http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Survival_Guide_(EU2012)#Satellite_Rush_Strategy
This is not my guide but it basically what I done when I finished ironman classic and built 4 satellites in 1st month (total had 5).

On November 01 2012 13:36 Maxyim wrote:


Looking at this, I do not understand why he is recommending building satellites separately. Does it do something to shave off pennies on the cost via rounding, etc? I didn't even know that it was possible to have more than one item in the queue, lol (thanks SC2).

On November 01 2012 21:40 KaiserJohan wrote:
anyone got beyond council mission in ironman impossible?
Once I finally got a good start on the first mission wtihout RNG fucking me up, I then get a BOMB DEFUSAL MISSION and its GG.