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On July 25 2012 19:50 ffswowsucks wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 15:05 Vaelone wrote: Spawned next to Cherno and felt like checking it out for the first time as I had nothing to lose but my virtual life, found the chuch and there was four unlooted corpses outside and I found another six indoors.
From zero to hero gear in a couple minutes, picked up compass, map, M4, M1911+ton of ammo, tent, food, water etc. Got ambushed like 30 mins later at airfield while exiting a hangar but managed to hunt him down with my broken bones but ended up getting mauled by a Zombie as I killed the survivor, at least I recovered my gear after the running back just to die again to a sniper and have all my good stuff taken. if you can get from cherno to airfield in 30 minutes, thats a good run. Btw the map isnt so huge as people tend to say it is. Darkfall's map was larger i believe and im amazed how people believe wow's map is smaller than dayz's. wow map was huge.
Sorry I've played only a few hours now so the names are pretty blurry for me still.
Airfield being Balota airstrip, or is Balota the town and the airstrip is just a nameless airstrip?
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On July 25 2012 18:59 FXOpen wrote:What the ;_; I logged on and was randomly automatically firing. Goodbye clip of ammo 
Alt tabbing seems to make weapons fire randomly sometimes, just alt tab again :p
I've got it by killing someone spawning in, as in they appeared infront of me standing still and I axed them to death. Then got a friendly fire kill.
Yeah it seems that killing someone that just spawns or getting killed by someone that just spawns shows "x killed by friendly fire", and also makes you respawn with your gear at the place you died; we got killed in the cherno's north appartments or whatever you call it by a guy that spawned in our back, and we just both got back our char in the same place and we could shoot him back, he also got the friendly fire thing and respawned when we weren't looking anymore to shoot us again xD
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On July 25 2012 20:29 Nimix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 18:59 FXOpen wrote:What the ;_; I logged on and was randomly automatically firing. Goodbye clip of ammo  Alt tabbing seems to make weapons fire randomly sometimes, just alt tab again :p
I find that when you alt-tab and then click on the Arma2 icon, you might fire if your avatar was in a firing mode when you tabbed out.
If you just alt-tab again until you get back in the game, you should never fire.
Done this a few times after quietly sniping an area for 20 minutes.
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On July 25 2012 20:22 Vaelone wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 19:50 ffswowsucks wrote:On July 25 2012 15:05 Vaelone wrote: Spawned next to Cherno and felt like checking it out for the first time as I had nothing to lose but my virtual life, found the chuch and there was four unlooted corpses outside and I found another six indoors.
From zero to hero gear in a couple minutes, picked up compass, map, M4, M1911+ton of ammo, tent, food, water etc. Got ambushed like 30 mins later at airfield while exiting a hangar but managed to hunt him down with my broken bones but ended up getting mauled by a Zombie as I killed the survivor, at least I recovered my gear after the running back just to die again to a sniper and have all my good stuff taken. if you can get from cherno to airfield in 30 minutes, thats a good run. Btw the map isnt so huge as people tend to say it is. Darkfall's map was larger i believe and im amazed how people believe wow's map is smaller than dayz's. wow map was huge. Sorry I've played only a few hours now so the names are pretty blurry for me still. Airfield being Balota airstrip, or is Balota the town and the airstrip is just a nameless airstrip?
ah ok. cause when people say airfield they usually mean NW airfield.
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On July 25 2012 17:37 Scootaloo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 12:44 Scaramanga wrote:On July 25 2012 09:04 Scootaloo wrote:On July 25 2012 00:38 Scaramanga wrote:On July 24 2012 22:19 Scootaloo wrote: Managed to get a Lee Enfield, which was a lot of fun for the 5 minutes before some asshole told me he was friendly and shot me. It seems a lot of effort for incredibly little gain, the battling zombies, even with an axe, which needs it's own seperate manual. The map helps to figure out where you should go for every item but I find it somewhat rediculous I needed to know about no less then 2 online maps to make sense of an ingame situation, and having to alt tab in a game like this, especially when you see the name of a town you just entered can often turn into suicide.
And as far as the makarov being removed, as you said yourself, agro'ing zombies is a massive problem with them, combine that with their low power and the rather low 8 bullets only really makes it viable for getting into one or two drop locations. Do you honestly believe starting you off with very low ammo isn't survival enough? The low ammo crappy makarov IS what you would put into a survival focussed game, removing it seems just completely pointless and just another barrier to get into the game without reading a godamn manual.
Also sneaking systems are all fun and such but the extremely shitty controls and the bad programming just make it either a extremely slow ride of boredom or playing it more loose which makes it impossible to shake the aggro before you can grab your items.
This just feels like one of those bad patches that makes a game stupidly difficult after fans have been complaining it was too easy, I think I'll wait till future updates fix this shit and focus on the many better games I have.
Edit: And yeah, I am kind of pissed off, from what I've seen from the numerous Destiny material this seemed like an incredibly enjoyable game, to only find out now that to reach that point you have to spend 15 min to an hour depending on luck and spawn position to even get a basic weapon, from where you can actually start playing this game, if this was a one or couple of times thing I would'nt mind but at this point I spent so much time on that bullshit, it's just frustrating.
I get the idea of having no weapons to fight and being chased, in Amnesia or Penumbra for instance it works incredibly well, however there it works because it's actually scary due to the game's atmosphere, story and enemy design, in this case it's like you're being chased by a bunch of annoying parasites that sound like dogs and wear idiotic french berets, it takes me out of the game and wastes a lot of my time on tedious busywork.
It appears you've gone into the game with expectations of being handed a rifle to cut down hordes and hordes of zombies. This isn't left for dead. This game is all about PvP and hording awesome gear. The frustration you're feeling is what you should be feeling at the start of the game. It makes every experience you get vastly more enjoyable. But hey if you're hating life because you can't figure out how to shake zombies then don't bother Ah yes, complaining about removing a makarov now I'm a left 4 dead nub that wants to be handed a rifle. Nothing in my post even remotely says I 'Wanted to be handed a rifle.', as I've also said I've watched Destiny play this shit for hours, i.e. I had a pretty good idea of what I was supposed to expect BEFORE THE FUCKING PATCH HIT. At least read the fucking post before you start your condescending routine. Do you know how bad a makarov is? 2 clips of that gun only serve to alert zombies to where you are. It's not even worth picking up. I find your inability to deal with zombies hilarious. Either play the game and learn how to play or stop coming here to complain. It's not the patch thats breaking the game for you its your impatience and reluctance to learn. If you're unable to make use of a makarov I have no idea how you where able to play long enough to become such a pompous ass. Now that someone gave me the manual to the axe the zombies arn't much of an issue anymore, your comments make it sounds like you're personally invested in this patch change, just trolling or do you honestly like being defenceless until you've done your silly loot spawn routine? And the makarov is most certainly the problem, an axe is manageable but just having a makarov would save me massive amounts of time on finding drop locations and this terrible form of stealth. I look at a makarov and think its not worth the time to pick it up. Its useless to kill other players and just wastes space. I, like most other players who are telling you that you're being silly, do not need a weapon to kill zombies, we need a weapon to kill other players. If you're still struggling to deal with zombies then you are being a complete noob ^^ We've given you help and are happy to continue to do so but if you're not going to take it on board and constantly complain about trivial problems then I'll ask you again to stop posting in this thread.
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Did anyone else have to manually download the 1.62 patch for ARMA2? Steam didn't seem to update all the way?
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On July 25 2012 22:47 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 17:37 Scootaloo wrote:On July 25 2012 12:44 Scaramanga wrote:On July 25 2012 09:04 Scootaloo wrote:On July 25 2012 00:38 Scaramanga wrote:On July 24 2012 22:19 Scootaloo wrote: Managed to get a Lee Enfield, which was a lot of fun for the 5 minutes before some asshole told me he was friendly and shot me. It seems a lot of effort for incredibly little gain, the battling zombies, even with an axe, which needs it's own seperate manual. The map helps to figure out where you should go for every item but I find it somewhat rediculous I needed to know about no less then 2 online maps to make sense of an ingame situation, and having to alt tab in a game like this, especially when you see the name of a town you just entered can often turn into suicide.
And as far as the makarov being removed, as you said yourself, agro'ing zombies is a massive problem with them, combine that with their low power and the rather low 8 bullets only really makes it viable for getting into one or two drop locations. Do you honestly believe starting you off with very low ammo isn't survival enough? The low ammo crappy makarov IS what you would put into a survival focussed game, removing it seems just completely pointless and just another barrier to get into the game without reading a godamn manual.
Also sneaking systems are all fun and such but the extremely shitty controls and the bad programming just make it either a extremely slow ride of boredom or playing it more loose which makes it impossible to shake the aggro before you can grab your items.
This just feels like one of those bad patches that makes a game stupidly difficult after fans have been complaining it was too easy, I think I'll wait till future updates fix this shit and focus on the many better games I have.
Edit: And yeah, I am kind of pissed off, from what I've seen from the numerous Destiny material this seemed like an incredibly enjoyable game, to only find out now that to reach that point you have to spend 15 min to an hour depending on luck and spawn position to even get a basic weapon, from where you can actually start playing this game, if this was a one or couple of times thing I would'nt mind but at this point I spent so much time on that bullshit, it's just frustrating.
I get the idea of having no weapons to fight and being chased, in Amnesia or Penumbra for instance it works incredibly well, however there it works because it's actually scary due to the game's atmosphere, story and enemy design, in this case it's like you're being chased by a bunch of annoying parasites that sound like dogs and wear idiotic french berets, it takes me out of the game and wastes a lot of my time on tedious busywork.
It appears you've gone into the game with expectations of being handed a rifle to cut down hordes and hordes of zombies. This isn't left for dead. This game is all about PvP and hording awesome gear. The frustration you're feeling is what you should be feeling at the start of the game. It makes every experience you get vastly more enjoyable. But hey if you're hating life because you can't figure out how to shake zombies then don't bother Ah yes, complaining about removing a makarov now I'm a left 4 dead nub that wants to be handed a rifle. Nothing in my post even remotely says I 'Wanted to be handed a rifle.', as I've also said I've watched Destiny play this shit for hours, i.e. I had a pretty good idea of what I was supposed to expect BEFORE THE FUCKING PATCH HIT. At least read the fucking post before you start your condescending routine. Do you know how bad a makarov is? 2 clips of that gun only serve to alert zombies to where you are. It's not even worth picking up. I find your inability to deal with zombies hilarious. Either play the game and learn how to play or stop coming here to complain. It's not the patch thats breaking the game for you its your impatience and reluctance to learn. If you're unable to make use of a makarov I have no idea how you where able to play long enough to become such a pompous ass. Now that someone gave me the manual to the axe the zombies arn't much of an issue anymore, your comments make it sounds like you're personally invested in this patch change, just trolling or do you honestly like being defenceless until you've done your silly loot spawn routine? And the makarov is most certainly the problem, an axe is manageable but just having a makarov would save me massive amounts of time on finding drop locations and this terrible form of stealth. I look at a makarov and think its not worth the time to pick it up. Its useless to kill other players and just wastes space. I, like most other players who are telling you that you're being silly, do not need a weapon to kill zombies, we need a weapon to kill other players. If you're still struggling to deal with zombies then you are being a complete noob ^^ We've given you help and are happy to continue to do so but if you're not going to take it on board and constantly complain about trivial problems then I'll ask you again to stop posting in this thread. Stop responding to the guy just so you can act like a dick. Nothing youv said in this entire conversation with him has been even remotely helpful. And if you actually think a noob shouldnt pick up a mak if they find one then you shouldnt be posting "advice" in this thread at all. If you want to be helpful (I dont think you do) then tell him how to abuse zombie ai to escape them, dont just be condescending dick for no reason. Thanks bro.
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On July 25 2012 22:49 Nebula wrote: Did anyone else have to manually download the 1.62 patch for ARMA2? Steam didn't seem to update all the way? I wouldn't advise that, game works just fine for me but there is one feature that is new. I have no idea if this is intended or not, but M1911 is nerfed into oblivion. It takes 3 shots in the body to kill zed now. I've read about in the dayz forums but it was just one guy so I didn't believe it. But just now after downloading it, I've almost died because 3 clips were not enough for 4 zeds....
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On July 25 2012 23:09 PassiveAce wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 22:47 Scaramanga wrote:On July 25 2012 17:37 Scootaloo wrote:On July 25 2012 12:44 Scaramanga wrote:On July 25 2012 09:04 Scootaloo wrote:On July 25 2012 00:38 Scaramanga wrote:On July 24 2012 22:19 Scootaloo wrote: Managed to get a Lee Enfield, which was a lot of fun for the 5 minutes before some asshole told me he was friendly and shot me. It seems a lot of effort for incredibly little gain, the battling zombies, even with an axe, which needs it's own seperate manual. The map helps to figure out where you should go for every item but I find it somewhat rediculous I needed to know about no less then 2 online maps to make sense of an ingame situation, and having to alt tab in a game like this, especially when you see the name of a town you just entered can often turn into suicide.
And as far as the makarov being removed, as you said yourself, agro'ing zombies is a massive problem with them, combine that with their low power and the rather low 8 bullets only really makes it viable for getting into one or two drop locations. Do you honestly believe starting you off with very low ammo isn't survival enough? The low ammo crappy makarov IS what you would put into a survival focussed game, removing it seems just completely pointless and just another barrier to get into the game without reading a godamn manual.
Also sneaking systems are all fun and such but the extremely shitty controls and the bad programming just make it either a extremely slow ride of boredom or playing it more loose which makes it impossible to shake the aggro before you can grab your items.
This just feels like one of those bad patches that makes a game stupidly difficult after fans have been complaining it was too easy, I think I'll wait till future updates fix this shit and focus on the many better games I have.
Edit: And yeah, I am kind of pissed off, from what I've seen from the numerous Destiny material this seemed like an incredibly enjoyable game, to only find out now that to reach that point you have to spend 15 min to an hour depending on luck and spawn position to even get a basic weapon, from where you can actually start playing this game, if this was a one or couple of times thing I would'nt mind but at this point I spent so much time on that bullshit, it's just frustrating.
I get the idea of having no weapons to fight and being chased, in Amnesia or Penumbra for instance it works incredibly well, however there it works because it's actually scary due to the game's atmosphere, story and enemy design, in this case it's like you're being chased by a bunch of annoying parasites that sound like dogs and wear idiotic french berets, it takes me out of the game and wastes a lot of my time on tedious busywork.
It appears you've gone into the game with expectations of being handed a rifle to cut down hordes and hordes of zombies. This isn't left for dead. This game is all about PvP and hording awesome gear. The frustration you're feeling is what you should be feeling at the start of the game. It makes every experience you get vastly more enjoyable. But hey if you're hating life because you can't figure out how to shake zombies then don't bother Ah yes, complaining about removing a makarov now I'm a left 4 dead nub that wants to be handed a rifle. Nothing in my post even remotely says I 'Wanted to be handed a rifle.', as I've also said I've watched Destiny play this shit for hours, i.e. I had a pretty good idea of what I was supposed to expect BEFORE THE FUCKING PATCH HIT. At least read the fucking post before you start your condescending routine. Do you know how bad a makarov is? 2 clips of that gun only serve to alert zombies to where you are. It's not even worth picking up. I find your inability to deal with zombies hilarious. Either play the game and learn how to play or stop coming here to complain. It's not the patch thats breaking the game for you its your impatience and reluctance to learn. If you're unable to make use of a makarov I have no idea how you where able to play long enough to become such a pompous ass. Now that someone gave me the manual to the axe the zombies arn't much of an issue anymore, your comments make it sounds like you're personally invested in this patch change, just trolling or do you honestly like being defenceless until you've done your silly loot spawn routine? And the makarov is most certainly the problem, an axe is manageable but just having a makarov would save me massive amounts of time on finding drop locations and this terrible form of stealth. I look at a makarov and think its not worth the time to pick it up. Its useless to kill other players and just wastes space. I, like most other players who are telling you that you're being silly, do not need a weapon to kill zombies, we need a weapon to kill other players. If you're still struggling to deal with zombies then you are being a complete noob ^^ We've given you help and are happy to continue to do so but if you're not going to take it on board and constantly complain about trivial problems then I'll ask you again to stop posting in this thread. Stop responding to the guy just so you can act like a dick. Nothing youv said in this entire conversation with him has been even remotely helpful. And if you actually think a noob shouldnt pick up a mak if they find one then you shouldnt be posting "advice" in this thread at all. If you want to be helpful (I dont think you do) then tell him how to abuse zombie ai to escape them, dont just be condescending dick for no reason. Thanks bro. A pm I sent him last night + Show Spoiler +It appeared to me you're having trouble with DayZ, have no fear! I shall give you some tricks and tips to help you survive easier! 1. Zombies have to walk slower up hill. If you're out in the open look for a slight incline. The degree of the hill that makes a zombie walk is lower than what makes a player walk. If you're on the hill and are forced to walk, just press q and e and that will make you run in a zig zag pattern up the hill 2. Zombies have to walk slower through a building. If you're running through a town you should have enough time to scout out a house to run through. Generally these building have two doors allowing you to make a speedy escape from the pesky buggers. This also works if you want to try and shoot 4-5 zombies that are agro towards you, run in a house and bam! You've got yourself a choke point. 3. If you see a zombie in the distance, crouch run. The range for agro is considerably less when you are crouched compared to when you are standing. This should help you get through without always alerting 6+ zombies in the area. 4. The best place to grab weapons are churches, supermarkets and schools. You want to look for an M1911 or a revolver. The beautiful thing about this weapon is it not only one shots zombies but you'll never run out of ammo. You can right click and combine the mag for the opposite gun and then do the same to refill the clip! Amazing for zombie hunting. To be honest you should be careful enough and smart enough that players and very random bugs are the only things that kill you. Glitching through walls, falling off stairs and getting eaten by zombies are good examples of a noob way to die. Hopefully this was helpful as I want to keep people playing this game as I enjoy it very much and the more the merrier! Ask me if you have any other problems I'd be happy to help. Ps If I've been rude please excuse me, i am fairly drunk at the moment. Don't presume, you end up with egg on your face ^^
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lol you seem much nicer drunk then sober. You should drink before you post more. Sorry, but that conversation out of context made you seem like a huge douche.
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On July 25 2012 22:47 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 17:37 Scootaloo wrote:On July 25 2012 12:44 Scaramanga wrote:On July 25 2012 09:04 Scootaloo wrote:On July 25 2012 00:38 Scaramanga wrote:On July 24 2012 22:19 Scootaloo wrote: Managed to get a Lee Enfield, which was a lot of fun for the 5 minutes before some asshole told me he was friendly and shot me. It seems a lot of effort for incredibly little gain, the battling zombies, even with an axe, which needs it's own seperate manual. The map helps to figure out where you should go for every item but I find it somewhat rediculous I needed to know about no less then 2 online maps to make sense of an ingame situation, and having to alt tab in a game like this, especially when you see the name of a town you just entered can often turn into suicide.
And as far as the makarov being removed, as you said yourself, agro'ing zombies is a massive problem with them, combine that with their low power and the rather low 8 bullets only really makes it viable for getting into one or two drop locations. Do you honestly believe starting you off with very low ammo isn't survival enough? The low ammo crappy makarov IS what you would put into a survival focussed game, removing it seems just completely pointless and just another barrier to get into the game without reading a godamn manual.
Also sneaking systems are all fun and such but the extremely shitty controls and the bad programming just make it either a extremely slow ride of boredom or playing it more loose which makes it impossible to shake the aggro before you can grab your items.
This just feels like one of those bad patches that makes a game stupidly difficult after fans have been complaining it was too easy, I think I'll wait till future updates fix this shit and focus on the many better games I have.
Edit: And yeah, I am kind of pissed off, from what I've seen from the numerous Destiny material this seemed like an incredibly enjoyable game, to only find out now that to reach that point you have to spend 15 min to an hour depending on luck and spawn position to even get a basic weapon, from where you can actually start playing this game, if this was a one or couple of times thing I would'nt mind but at this point I spent so much time on that bullshit, it's just frustrating.
I get the idea of having no weapons to fight and being chased, in Amnesia or Penumbra for instance it works incredibly well, however there it works because it's actually scary due to the game's atmosphere, story and enemy design, in this case it's like you're being chased by a bunch of annoying parasites that sound like dogs and wear idiotic french berets, it takes me out of the game and wastes a lot of my time on tedious busywork.
It appears you've gone into the game with expectations of being handed a rifle to cut down hordes and hordes of zombies. This isn't left for dead. This game is all about PvP and hording awesome gear. The frustration you're feeling is what you should be feeling at the start of the game. It makes every experience you get vastly more enjoyable. But hey if you're hating life because you can't figure out how to shake zombies then don't bother Ah yes, complaining about removing a makarov now I'm a left 4 dead nub that wants to be handed a rifle. Nothing in my post even remotely says I 'Wanted to be handed a rifle.', as I've also said I've watched Destiny play this shit for hours, i.e. I had a pretty good idea of what I was supposed to expect BEFORE THE FUCKING PATCH HIT. At least read the fucking post before you start your condescending routine. Do you know how bad a makarov is? 2 clips of that gun only serve to alert zombies to where you are. It's not even worth picking up. I find your inability to deal with zombies hilarious. Either play the game and learn how to play or stop coming here to complain. It's not the patch thats breaking the game for you its your impatience and reluctance to learn. If you're unable to make use of a makarov I have no idea how you where able to play long enough to become such a pompous ass. Now that someone gave me the manual to the axe the zombies arn't much of an issue anymore, your comments make it sounds like you're personally invested in this patch change, just trolling or do you honestly like being defenceless until you've done your silly loot spawn routine? And the makarov is most certainly the problem, an axe is manageable but just having a makarov would save me massive amounts of time on finding drop locations and this terrible form of stealth. I look at a makarov and think its not worth the time to pick it up. Its useless to kill other players and just wastes space. I, like most other players who are telling you that you're being silly, do not need a weapon to kill zombies, we need a weapon to kill other players. If you're still struggling to deal with zombies then you are being a complete noob ^^ We've given you help and are happy to continue to do so but if you're not going to take it on board and constantly complain about trivial problems then I'll ask you again to stop posting in this thread.
Ah, you mean the constant complaining I did by replying to your pointless angry posts? And yeah, you're actually incapable of making use of a makarov, amazing. I'm also really happy for you you're incapable of reading english, several times in your post you directly contradict what I said in mine. And "We've given you help"? Hah, no, other people gave me help, you just acted like an asshole.
No idea why you replied really, you didn't bother actually reading my post or replying to anything and the only real intention seems to be childish insults. Should prolly stop posting eh?
Edit: Just noticed you sent me that PM, I usually don't pay much attention to PM's in general so the information got kind of wasted. Would be a great idea though to have posted that in here instead of the post that you did.
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On July 25 2012 11:47 tsuxiit wrote: I just found a heli crash that had ALREADY been picked clean since the server restart (except for some NVGs which you guys thankfully missed). Does a server restart just mean that tofu/whoever runs the server wants to do heli runs? I try to restart every 4-5 hours. Past few days we've spent all of our time looking for tents to set up a new camp and trying to recover our stolen vehicles. Obviously it doesn't hurt that when we have a car and the server is scheduled for a restart, but I won't restart the server every hour just to farm crashes.
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So is there any chill out mature eu people over 25years of age,that wanna recruit another guy into their closed rl group?seems all my friends rage quitted after they died after countless hours of gameplay.im left alone seeking for new adventures!
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On July 26 2012 00:54 ffswowsucks wrote: So is there any chill out mature eu people over 25years of age,that wanna recruit another guy into their closed rl group?seems all my friends rage quitted after they died after countless hours of gameplay.im left alone seeking for new adventures!
TS server has a few.
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On July 26 2012 00:55 Zorkmid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 00:54 ffswowsucks wrote: So is there any chill out mature eu people over 25years of age,that wanna recruit another guy into their closed rl group?seems all my friends rage quitted after they died after countless hours of gameplay.im left alone seeking for new adventures! TS server has a few. Forgot to say.That play on eu servers.Such as de,lu,fr,uk
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but only if you have a ghillie
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On July 26 2012 00:46 Scootaloo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 22:47 Scaramanga wrote:On July 25 2012 17:37 Scootaloo wrote:On July 25 2012 12:44 Scaramanga wrote:On July 25 2012 09:04 Scootaloo wrote:On July 25 2012 00:38 Scaramanga wrote:On July 24 2012 22:19 Scootaloo wrote: Managed to get a Lee Enfield, which was a lot of fun for the 5 minutes before some asshole told me he was friendly and shot me. It seems a lot of effort for incredibly little gain, the battling zombies, even with an axe, which needs it's own seperate manual. The map helps to figure out where you should go for every item but I find it somewhat rediculous I needed to know about no less then 2 online maps to make sense of an ingame situation, and having to alt tab in a game like this, especially when you see the name of a town you just entered can often turn into suicide.
And as far as the makarov being removed, as you said yourself, agro'ing zombies is a massive problem with them, combine that with their low power and the rather low 8 bullets only really makes it viable for getting into one or two drop locations. Do you honestly believe starting you off with very low ammo isn't survival enough? The low ammo crappy makarov IS what you would put into a survival focussed game, removing it seems just completely pointless and just another barrier to get into the game without reading a godamn manual.
Also sneaking systems are all fun and such but the extremely shitty controls and the bad programming just make it either a extremely slow ride of boredom or playing it more loose which makes it impossible to shake the aggro before you can grab your items.
This just feels like one of those bad patches that makes a game stupidly difficult after fans have been complaining it was too easy, I think I'll wait till future updates fix this shit and focus on the many better games I have.
Edit: And yeah, I am kind of pissed off, from what I've seen from the numerous Destiny material this seemed like an incredibly enjoyable game, to only find out now that to reach that point you have to spend 15 min to an hour depending on luck and spawn position to even get a basic weapon, from where you can actually start playing this game, if this was a one or couple of times thing I would'nt mind but at this point I spent so much time on that bullshit, it's just frustrating.
I get the idea of having no weapons to fight and being chased, in Amnesia or Penumbra for instance it works incredibly well, however there it works because it's actually scary due to the game's atmosphere, story and enemy design, in this case it's like you're being chased by a bunch of annoying parasites that sound like dogs and wear idiotic french berets, it takes me out of the game and wastes a lot of my time on tedious busywork.
It appears you've gone into the game with expectations of being handed a rifle to cut down hordes and hordes of zombies. This isn't left for dead. This game is all about PvP and hording awesome gear. The frustration you're feeling is what you should be feeling at the start of the game. It makes every experience you get vastly more enjoyable. But hey if you're hating life because you can't figure out how to shake zombies then don't bother Ah yes, complaining about removing a makarov now I'm a left 4 dead nub that wants to be handed a rifle. Nothing in my post even remotely says I 'Wanted to be handed a rifle.', as I've also said I've watched Destiny play this shit for hours, i.e. I had a pretty good idea of what I was supposed to expect BEFORE THE FUCKING PATCH HIT. At least read the fucking post before you start your condescending routine. Do you know how bad a makarov is? 2 clips of that gun only serve to alert zombies to where you are. It's not even worth picking up. I find your inability to deal with zombies hilarious. Either play the game and learn how to play or stop coming here to complain. It's not the patch thats breaking the game for you its your impatience and reluctance to learn. If you're unable to make use of a makarov I have no idea how you where able to play long enough to become such a pompous ass. Now that someone gave me the manual to the axe the zombies arn't much of an issue anymore, your comments make it sounds like you're personally invested in this patch change, just trolling or do you honestly like being defenceless until you've done your silly loot spawn routine? And the makarov is most certainly the problem, an axe is manageable but just having a makarov would save me massive amounts of time on finding drop locations and this terrible form of stealth. I look at a makarov and think its not worth the time to pick it up. Its useless to kill other players and just wastes space. I, like most other players who are telling you that you're being silly, do not need a weapon to kill zombies, we need a weapon to kill other players. If you're still struggling to deal with zombies then you are being a complete noob ^^ We've given you help and are happy to continue to do so but if you're not going to take it on board and constantly complain about trivial problems then I'll ask you again to stop posting in this thread. Ah, you mean the constant complaining I did by replying to your pointless angry posts? And yeah, you're actually incapable of making use of a makarov, amazing. I'm also really happy for you you're incapable of reading english, several times in your post you directly contradict what I said in mine. And "We've given you help"? Hah, no, other people gave me help, you just acted like an asshole. No idea why you replied really, you didn't bother actually reading my post or replying to anything and the only real intention seems to be childish insults. Should prolly stop posting eh? Edit: Just noticed you sent me that PM, I usually don't pay much attention to PM's in general so the information got kind of wasted. Would be a great idea though to have posted that in here instead of the post that you did. This makes no sense. You make an argument, I try to help you along with a few others (surely you notice the color contrast when you get a pm), you make the same superfluous point and call the game terrible. I then explain why the what you're saying makes no sense and why you're wrong and according to you I'm not allowed to do that? You can't be wrong? lol ok Let me put it this way. Find a coyote backpack, screenshot and post here. Then tell me your opinion about zombies, how crucial it is for the game to start with a weapon and the sneak mechanics.
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On July 26 2012 01:04 tofucake wrote: but only if you have a ghillie and NVGs so we can play at night.
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