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nagual
Profile Joined December 2011
Ukraine70 Posts
May 03 2012 22:38 GMT
#61
I reaploaded article:
http://www.2shared.com/file/ptPm1Ogn/Teso.html?
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Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
May 03 2012 22:39 GMT
#62
On May 04 2012 07:12 nagual wrote:
Btw they use Hero Engine, guess what recent MMO was made on it.

Praetorial
theres list of links in the post, you dont need to read russian, just download all pages

edit:
try this, but it loots like it requires registration to be able to download

http://www.4shared.com/office/keDTA5Wb/TesOnline.html


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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 22:50:01
May 03 2012 22:48 GMT
#63
Hmm...this might be my first mmo.

On May 04 2012 07:12 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 07:05 nagual wrote:
http://www.elderscrolls.net/conference/index.php?s=8218f098a246c86312aed8d158256825&showtopic=4145&st=150&p=221215&#entry221215

I just leave it here.

edit:
article from GI in separate pdf files (pages)


Most of us can't read Russian.

The links are in english.
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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
May 03 2012 22:55 GMT
#64
It's a guild wars 2 clone with vaguely cartoonish graphics in third person. Not really interested.
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 00:35:49
May 04 2012 00:33 GMT
#65
http://imgur.com/a/fO9Ty#0

So let's establish some facts here from these scans plus other information gleaned.

It's using the Hero Engine, which is shit. It's set a thousand years before anything, so that most likely means some extremely fucking stupid lore changes as always happens when developers of a popular genre change the timetable drastically.

And the icing on the cake?

It's a fucking Guild Wars 2 clone, the first of its kind. I didn't even know this could be possible. But just look, they're making the same damn promises. I was so bamboozled by this.

"Instead of the typical questing design that MMO players intuitively recognize - go to down, pick up quests, complete quests, return to town for reward - The Elder Scrolls Online aims to allow players to enjoy whatever piques their interest as they wander the world"

"Townsfolk naturally point players toward some adventures"

"a moderate break from the traditional tank/healer/damage "holy trinity"

"We can just make every ability really cool, and how you build your 'hand' in advance is what defines you"

"currently equipped weapon determines the first two slots"


They also have cross-class combos. Even the god damn combo example they used (warrior whirlwind inside the fire wall) is the exact same combo ArenaNet used 1-2 years ago to showcase combos in GW2, complete with the flying projectile fireballs and inferno.

I'm not going to count this game out, it can be fucking boss. I never count a game out before I give it an appropriate chance, however, let's just look at the facts. This game will be using the Hero Engine with what appears to be WoW aesthetics that is blatantly copying GW2's promises. Now let me be clear, I'm a staunch defender in the practice of taking something that works in something and applying it to everything in an industry because it's clearly fun and effective. However, I can't help but feel a bit queezy about this.

I'm excited, but EXTREMELY cautious.

EDIT: But let me be clear, I'm hyped for GW2 for a reason. If they can mimic it CORRECTLY and add a creative and personal flair to it, I will be fully behind this. A lot of what they describe in that article looks pretty fucking cool and exciting. However, for now, I have to have my guard up is all.
castled
Profile Joined March 2011
United States322 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 00:46:51
May 04 2012 00:44 GMT
#66
So it looks like it won't have the real-time combat seen in the rest of the games. I was hoping it would just be the Skyrim engine in a bigger world with multiplayer (PvP battles and coop questing), that would awesome. Not really interested in another WoW clone.

e: from what you guys say, the producer made some other MMO (dark age of Camelot) that was not like WoW that featured RvR? I'm an mmo noob what is RvR?
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
May 04 2012 00:48 GMT
#67
On May 04 2012 09:44 castled wrote:
So it looks like it won't have the real-time combat seen in the rest of the games. I was hoping it would just be the Skyrim engine in a bigger world with multiplayer (PvP battles and coop questing), that would awesome. Not really interested in another WoW clone.

e: from what you guys say, the producer made some other MMO (dark age of Camelot) that was not like WoW that featured RvR? I'm an mmo noob what is RvR?


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Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 01:14:27
May 04 2012 01:14 GMT
#68
Thought it would be amazing if they eventually pulled off an Elder Scrolls MMO. I didn't expect it this soon though, hope they don't fuck it up.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
May 04 2012 01:21 GMT
#69
Every MMO on the planet besides WoW has never been as successful as it's set out to be. This one will be no different. Sucks that they are ruining yet another cool series.
Archaeo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 01:48:52
May 04 2012 01:48 GMT
#70
Eh, not too thrilled of TES MMO. I think I'll just stick to single player, but I won't count it out until I read more on it.
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TubbyIsAwesome
Profile Joined February 2011
United States161 Posts
May 04 2012 04:06 GMT
#71
On May 04 2012 07:20 heliusx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 07:00 TubbyIsAwesome wrote:
I want to be excited over this but, it just feels like a Guild Wars 2 clone. If they manage to make it diverse from Guild Wars then I might give it a try.


It feels like a gw2 clone? There is like no details released about the game. Can you see the future or something? Am I missing something or is that just a flame bait post? Oh wait I just checked your post history... go back under the bridge


It's a Guild Wars 2 clone because they are promising the same things. Here I'll quote another TL member who has already explained it.
On May 04 2012 09:33 Candadar wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/fO9Ty#0

So let's establish some facts here from these scans plus other information gleaned.

It's using the Hero Engine, which is shit. It's set a thousand years before anything, so that most likely means some extremely fucking stupid lore changes as always happens when developers of a popular genre change the timetable drastically.

And the icing on the cake?

It's a fucking Guild Wars 2 clone, the first of its kind. I didn't even know this could be possible. But just look, they're making the same damn promises. I was so bamboozled by this.

Show nested quote +
"Instead of the typical questing design that MMO players intuitively recognize - go to down, pick up quests, complete quests, return to town for reward - The Elder Scrolls Online aims to allow players to enjoy whatever piques their interest as they wander the world"

Show nested quote +
"Townsfolk naturally point players toward some adventures"

Show nested quote +
"a moderate break from the traditional tank/healer/damage "holy trinity"

Show nested quote +
"We can just make every ability really cool, and how you build your 'hand' in advance is what defines you"

Show nested quote +
"currently equipped weapon determines the first two slots"


They also have cross-class combos. Even the god damn combo example they used (warrior whirlwind inside the fire wall) is the exact same combo ArenaNet used 1-2 years ago to showcase combos in GW2, complete with the flying projectile fireballs and inferno.

I'm not going to count this game out, it can be fucking boss. I never count a game out before I give it an appropriate chance, however, let's just look at the facts. This game will be using the Hero Engine with what appears to be WoW aesthetics that is blatantly copying GW2's promises. Now let me be clear, I'm a staunch defender in the practice of taking something that works in something and applying it to everything in an industry because it's clearly fun and effective. However, I can't help but feel a bit queezy about this.

I'm excited, but EXTREMELY cautious.

EDIT: But let me be clear, I'm hyped for GW2 for a reason. If they can mimic it CORRECTLY and add a creative and personal flair to it, I will be fully behind this. A lot of what they describe in that article looks pretty fucking cool and exciting. However, for now, I have to have my guard up is all.


Also, get off my back. I've served my time. I don't need you criticizing every post I make.... TL has mods for that.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 04 2012 04:13 GMT
#72
Could be great. I've been saying there should be a first person MMO, TES-style, for a while now. It's just so much more immersive to see things in first person, could make for some epic multiplayer experiences in that regard. As for it actually being TES...I'm scared they won't come close to the high expectations placed on them.

Also, Skyrim was so insanely buggy, and MMOs on release always are, it's very scary to think how many things will no doubt be broken.
leperphilliac
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States399 Posts
May 04 2012 04:26 GMT
#73
When I just saw the announcement I was excited but cautious. When I saw the game informer article, they basically showed it's a WoW clone. The three factions are most likely going to be the Ebonyheart pact (Dunmer, Nords, Argonians controlling Morrowind, Skyrim, and Black Marsh), the Daggerfall Covenant (Orcs, Bretons, and Redguards controlling High Rock and Hammerfell) and the Dominion (High elves, Bosmer, and Khajit controlling the Summerset Isles, Valenwood, and Elsweyr). Which sucks because I would love to have been an altmer in the court intrigues of High Rock, but I doubt the game would even have enough depth to allow such a thing.
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
May 04 2012 04:26 GMT
#74
On May 04 2012 07:31 Sokalo wrote:
Dark Age of Camelot was the standard for MMO PvP - or rather RvR in its case. For everyone who has negative feelings towards MMOs in general I absolutely feel you. But chances are you never played DAoC. Anyone who played that game in its glory days knows the how fantastic PvP can really be. WoW and its clones do not hold a candle to it. Do not write it off because of that.

TES is great but that doesn't really matter. The chance that they can bring back RvR, and do it right, is what's exciting here.

Oh god they better not mess this up.

We've heard this song and dance two times already- with the actual Mythic team itself (WAR and SWTOR). Hey guys! We made DAOC! Our game will therefore give you PvP orgasms! Yeah, no. Just because one lead dev from DAOC is here and they have 3 factions is not a magic recipe for success. Especially when you consider this is the freaking Hero engine, the one that can only handle 8v8 Warzones and crawls to a giant clusterfuck on Ilum (and STILL does, 4 months later?)

WAR already went through all of this. Didn't have 3 factions, but it had the entire Mythic team and an actual RvR system and city sieges. 3 factions wouldn't have saved WAR- because that engine was also total shit, and couldn't handle RvR at all.
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GDR
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada407 Posts
May 04 2012 04:34 GMT
#75
As long as they continue single player games, and don't replace it with this. I'm pretty content, and excited for the possiblity of a really deep MMO. Oh, I hope they don't screw it up!
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
May 04 2012 04:35 GMT
#76
So it's not being made by Bethseda? Ok good. Bethseda needs to freaking make more single-player Elder scroll games/expansions and NOT Fallout / MMOs / anything else.
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 04:42:12
May 04 2012 04:41 GMT
#77
I wish this wont be another MMRPG-WoW-GW2-RIFT-alike game. I hope the mechanics are somewhat we've seen in the past TES games, but that is what I hope for. If it will be a large world and Skyrim/Oblivion/Morrowind-like I will definitely buy it! I am so sick of these current RPG games with the ability to spam buttons to do everything :&
Sokalo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States375 Posts
May 04 2012 05:11 GMT
#78
On May 04 2012 13:26 FieryBalrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 07:31 Sokalo wrote:
Dark Age of Camelot was the standard for MMO PvP - or rather RvR in its case. For everyone who has negative feelings towards MMOs in general I absolutely feel you. But chances are you never played DAoC. Anyone who played that game in its glory days knows the how fantastic PvP can really be. WoW and its clones do not hold a candle to it. Do not write it off because of that.

TES is great but that doesn't really matter. The chance that they can bring back RvR, and do it right, is what's exciting here.

Oh god they better not mess this up.

We've heard this song and dance two times already- with the actual Mythic team itself (WAR and SWTOR). Hey guys! We made DAOC! Our game will therefore give you PvP orgasms! Yeah, no. Just because one lead dev from DAOC is here and they have 3 factions is not a magic recipe for success. Especially when you consider this is the freaking Hero engine, the one that can only handle 8v8 Warzones and crawls to a giant clusterfuck on Ilum (and STILL does, 4 months later?)

WAR already went through all of this. Didn't have 3 factions, but it had the entire Mythic team and an actual RvR system and city sieges. 3 factions wouldn't have saved WAR- because that engine was also total shit, and couldn't handle RvR at all.

I think the absence of the Mythic team is a good sign here. I'm not sure that Mythic as a whole understood what made their game enjoyable. They did a pretty good job of destroying what they had going in DAoC and then later WAR. When they weren't self-destructing they were just pretty sloppy in general.

I know nothing of the Hero engine but I hope it's not as bad as everyone's making it out to be.

I'll be keeping my head in the sand from here on out until release while I make believe that the successful return of the RvR MMO is upon us.

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
May 04 2012 05:19 GMT
#79
Echoing others, fuck MMOs.
I honestly would quite like more games like TES series, Divinity 2, Gothic to have some multiplayer actually, but not MMO style, only cooperative capabilities, like Diablo but obviously a different kind of game. This news saddens me.
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Thingdo
Profile Joined August 2009
United States186 Posts
May 04 2012 05:32 GMT
#80
Meh. Crappy engine, screenshots didn't grab my attention at all. It really looks like they are gonna make a very sub par MMO. Thats really too bad because I love the series.

I'm actually glad that they are setting it 1000 years in the past though and that a different team is working on it. It won't mess with the rest of the series like how WoW basically makes Warcraft 4 impossible. It is unfortunate that a lot of the unseen areas of the world will probably get displayed in it. Hopefully Bethesda will just ignore those when they make the next game and just remake it however they see fit.
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