• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:44
CEST 15:44
KST 22:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy17ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool51Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group E [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
China Uses Video Games to Sh…
TrAiDoS
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 22019 users

[G] WoW: From fresh 85 to nerd baller!

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
insourcecertainty
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States142 Posts
April 12 2012 19:14 GMT
#1
When I first started playing WoW in vanilla with my dad I was a young newbie 14 that thought that the only thing to do in wow was quests and leveling. I never thought about raids or high level pvp. I would log on and do quests with my dad. Until I passed him up level wise. I was a warlock Nika'jind on the Fenris server. They were good days, but I didn't understand how big the world.... of Warcraft was.

Then I started paying attention to other characters and saw some of the coolest level 60 gear in the world. The Gladiator's Dreadgear

[image loading]

Once I saw that sexy set of gear I had to have it!!! Too bad I was only level 47 and leveling was just boring to me, plus the only other people I knew that played WoW were my dad and brother. My brother and I shared an account though so we couldn't play together. This led me to just stop playing for a while.

Then Burning Crusade came out! I played more but still not enough to get a top level, but I was a 16 or so year old boy so I didn't care too much I just wanted to date and play Call of Duty. So I stopped playing again.

Wrath of the Lich King! Warcraft 3 is one of my favorite games as far as story line goes. So seeing Arthas as the Lich King in this WoW expansion got me pumped! Not only that but Death Knights start at level 55! Thats a lot of work already done for me. So I had to play! I did the starting DK area as my Tauren character because they're big and scary of course, and I fell in love. It was amazing every last battle so I knew DK's were the class for me.

I was determined this expansion to get to the top level so I quested and quested harder than ever before and on the way and made it to 80. Then stopped -.-

Now Cata is out and I have my 85, but i started with a lowg iLvL so I'm going to help some of you that don't know what to do go from the low ilvl to doing LFR groups.

!!! IMPORTANT!!!!!
Once you hit level 80 start doing random Cata's for the JP. Once you hit the 4000 cap you can stop or keep going for the items thats up to you. The dungeon quests will help you level fast too.

We'll start with some the of quests you can do to get you started. ASAP go to Twilight Highlands. So many good quest items there, I even got lucky and found a great Agi trink I was able to sell for 500g. The most notable (and fun) quests are the Crucible of Carnage quests!!! You do some epic battles (you'll need a group) and best of all you get a rocking weapon that will last you while from them! My DK had the sword from those for a loooong time and now I have a Warlock with the Very Manly Staff from the quest.


Now you're level 85 and have some decent gear from dungeons and twilight highlands and you have 4k JP. Great!!! Now you can make your first purchase. You want to buy the tier 12 chest gear. It has an ilvl of 378! So that right there is a great start! Don't make the same mistake i did though and buy the gear from the Legay Justice vendor you want to talk to Gunra if you're horde or Magatha Silverton if your Alli.

Once you're 85 you want to go to the call board in your capital Org or Stormwind and pick up the quest Call of the World-Shaman, this quest line will get you a cloak that is going to last you a loooong time. It is a 365 ilvl cloak that you won't be replacing until you're doing Hour of Time or Raids.

Now you have a 333 weapon, a bitching cloak and a 378 from your chest plust 1800 left over JP. You can choose to save the JP or you can another piece such as the gloves. This will make you heroic ready. This is the longest part (in my opinion) you have to grind out heroics for a couple days and do some reputation grinding.

When you start rep grinding in the different areas pick up the tabard asap! Wear it like its going out of style. Once exalted these places have some 359 ilvl gear that will really help you out!

Secondly if you don't know where to go there is a great site to figure out what you're going to do for gear maxdps.com. It has lists by class and item slot of gear you want to pick up.

However they do have a lot of PvP gear listed on there, you can go to the AH and buy a full set of viscious pvp gear with an ilvl of 377. I wouldn't reccomend it however because a lot of people will give you crap about it. That being said a few pieces here and there are okay, besides our goal is to get to do the Looking for Raid asap. We need a 372 iLvl for that.

Once you've grinded rep and Cata heroics and have some great gear you can do the easiest part of the gear grind. Getting to 372!

To start things off you can grab a quest from Org or Stromwind if you're in Org talk to Ziradormi in the Valley of Strength if you're alli talk to Corodormi in The Mage Quarter.
These start the HoT quest line that will award you with 3/4 pieces of gear with an ilvl of 378! Once you have finished all the quests you can do randoms every week until you reach 1000 Valor Points that week. After this I suggest you do specific HoT dungeons with a piece of gear in mind.

We really need to get to 372 so we're going to use 700 VP right off the bat and buy a 397 relic. This will really help you out, plus you have 3 or 4 pieces with 378 from the quests you did and you're JP gear you bought! You're well on your way now just get your last couple of pieces.

When planning what gear to farm for I make a list of my lowest gear then figure out which will be the hardest to replace then the easiest. I start with the easiest to replace just because I want that iLvl fast! Then anything that can be bought with JP I pick up when I have enough.

At this point you should have 372, I did cheat a little and have a pvp piece and sometimes you have to pick up gear that isn't great for you. I picked up an agility trinket for my DK to replace an even worse tank trink with 346 ilvl.

So some of the major points before I end this:

1) Start Cata Heroics ASAP for the JP
2) Know where to quest (Twilight Highlands, Call of the World Shaman, Some dungeons ZA/ZG will have quests for you, etc.)
3) PvP gear is okay IN MODERATION!
4) Work your way from easiest gear to obtain to the hardest for fastest results

I hope this helps some people, I've never written anything like this because I'm not really a helpful kind of person tbh. I'm super impatient with people. If you want help with anything in game or need someone to run dungeons with you I'm Muduck or Mington on the Ner'Zhul server. Thank you TL!!!
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 20:09:19
April 12 2012 20:07 GMT
#2
that's level 70 gear not level 60? wasn't even out during vanilla, it was arena set 1 for locks, same model as T4 for warlocks
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
April 12 2012 20:15 GMT
#3
vanilla wow pre bg was glory days. town raids were actually fun, windmill hill or w/e was fun, back and forth for hours. grinded high warlord and got the gear. quit before bc, but i miss true vanilla 40 raids oh nostalgia
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
April 12 2012 20:17 GMT
#4
Arena didnt exist in vanilla, thats level 70 s1 gear.

But I do hold some nostalgia, when i got my might set for my warrior i was so jacked.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
BenBuford
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark307 Posts
April 12 2012 20:26 GMT
#5
10 man UBRS runs, trying to get last Valor pieces and Draconian Deflector. Those were the days.
Fucking "Anyone have key?", Dragon broodling wipes @Leeroy Jenkins room, and failed Drakkisath hunter kitings <3
BenBuford on twitter.
insourcecertainty
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States142 Posts
April 12 2012 21:05 GMT
#6
whooops linked wrong one!!! :O
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
April 12 2012 21:26 GMT
#7
On April 13 2012 05:26 BenBuford wrote:
10 man UBRS runs, trying to get last Valor pieces and Draconian Deflector. Those were the days.
Fucking "Anyone have key?", Dragon broodling wipes @Leeroy Jenkins room, and failed Drakkisath hunter kitings <3


Aye. I remember running UBRS when it was endgame. You could count the groups doing the instance on two fingers, participation was invite only on our server. Oh the glory. And the joy when I rolled high enough to win the Chromatic Carapace for my Breastplate of the Chromatic Flight ... now that was an epic you could show off.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
April 12 2012 21:29 GMT
#8
coolest staff in the game was the staff of dominance from MC, i pretended to be a 16 year old girl just to talk to someone who had it
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Silentenigma
Profile Joined July 2009
Turkey2037 Posts
April 12 2012 22:25 GMT
#9
On April 13 2012 06:29 Endymion wrote:
coolest staff in the game was the staff of dominance from MC, i pretended to be a 16 year old girl just to talk to someone who had it

ROFL
日本語が上手ですね
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
April 12 2012 22:28 GMT
#10
On April 13 2012 06:29 Endymion wrote:
coolest staff in the game was the staff of dominance from MC, i pretended to be a 16 year old girl just to talk to someone who had it


i dont know whats more sad
High Risk Low Reward
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
April 12 2012 22:30 GMT
#11
On April 13 2012 05:26 BenBuford wrote:
10 man UBRS runs, trying to get last Valor pieces and Draconian Deflector. Those were the days.
Fucking "Anyone have key?", Dragon broodling wipes @Leeroy Jenkins room, and failed Drakkisath hunter kitings <3

UBRS was 15 man! Not 10!

I was a hunter, 100% Baller kiter right here! LOL

Vanilla WoW was so god damn fun, for me, there has never been a game that fun since, nor do I think there ever will
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 12 2012 22:35 GMT
#12
On April 13 2012 06:29 Endymion wrote:
coolest staff in the game was the staff of dominance from MC, i pretended to be a 16 year old girl just to talk to someone who had it

I was always after the Azuresong Mageblade because I found an epic offhand (which escapes me at the moment).

I had Rod of the Ogre Magi since right after DM came out. I remember having to jump through all those hoops to do a tribute run, that was so much fun. Precursor to the Ulduar hardmodes and all that.
insourcecertainty
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States142 Posts
April 12 2012 23:30 GMT
#13
I just got Gurthalak, its a pretty cool 2 hander.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
April 12 2012 23:48 GMT
#14
On April 13 2012 06:29 Endymion wrote:
coolest staff in the game was the staff of dominance from MC, i pretended to be a 16 year old girl just to talk to someone who had it


Damn... changed my view of wow all the sudden haha
Life?
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
April 13 2012 00:24 GMT
#15
I know this might not be the best thread to ask, but I couldn't find any other threads or a general WOW thread. I'm thinking about giving this game a shot, what would you suggest doing to get started?
Write your own song!
insourcecertainty
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States142 Posts
April 13 2012 01:06 GMT
#16
On April 13 2012 09:24 mastergriggy wrote:
I know this might not be the best thread to ask, but I couldn't find any other threads or a general WOW thread. I'm thinking about giving this game a shot, what would you suggest doing to get started?


Get the starter edition and level to 20 figure out some classes and races you like to play then if you REALLY like it buy it. BC and Vanilla are only $20. Its so worth it.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
April 13 2012 11:10 GMT
#17
On April 13 2012 09:24 mastergriggy wrote:
I know this might not be the best thread to ask, but I couldn't find any other threads or a general WOW thread. I'm thinking about giving this game a shot, what would you suggest doing to get started?


My humble suggestion would be to not follow this guide/thread at all. No offense to the OP, it's a solid writeup - but it'll kill most of the fun a newcomer to the game would have.

The magic of MMOs consists of exploration, learning about the world and finding your own pace in the game. Do your own thing, make your own mistakes. My fondest memories of WoW - despite having raided the endgame for years, across various expansions - come from leveling, from exploring the game back at release and from random nonsense that had nothing to do with leveling up, or getting better gear, or having the most efficient approach to everything.
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
April 13 2012 11:20 GMT
#18
On April 13 2012 20:10 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 09:24 mastergriggy wrote:
I know this might not be the best thread to ask, but I couldn't find any other threads or a general WOW thread. I'm thinking about giving this game a shot, what would you suggest doing to get started?


My humble suggestion would be to not follow this guide/thread at all. No offense to the OP, it's a solid writeup - but it'll kill most of the fun a newcomer to the game would have.

The magic of MMOs consists of exploration, learning about the world and finding your own pace in the game. Do your own thing, make your own mistakes. My fondest memories of WoW - despite having raided the endgame for years, across various expansions - come from leveling, from exploring the game back at release and from random nonsense that had nothing to do with leveling up, or getting better gear, or having the most efficient approach to everything.


Going to repeat this sentiment. MMOs are best played by finding out everything yourself the first time. You can never get that back if you spoil it for yourself.
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 12:23:44
April 13 2012 12:22 GMT
#19
On April 13 2012 07:30 Silidons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 05:26 BenBuford wrote:
10 man UBRS runs, trying to get last Valor pieces and Draconian Deflector. Those were the days.
Fucking "Anyone have key?", Dragon broodling wipes @Leeroy Jenkins room, and failed Drakkisath hunter kitings <3

UBRS was 15 man! Not 10!

I was a hunter, 100% Baller kiter right here! LOL

Vanilla WoW was so god damn fun, for me, there has never been a game that fun since, nor do I think there ever will

Yes it was fun, because everything was so new at the time.
I remember when the pvp system was released, I was lvl45 and there were very few lvl60 at the time still, and all I did was raid the X-road with tons of other people instead of levelling, because it was so fun.

I remember also worshipping people with epic gear (even a single at the time, because it was so rare). Fun time.

What we often like to forget tho, is that the game was also boring most of the time, but we only remember the fun parts.
Gulf
Profile Joined May 2010
Scotland213 Posts
April 13 2012 14:30 GMT
#20
The game was not 'boring' during vanilla days. It was far more social, as organising anything required actually talking to people, not just sitting in a queue while you were solo questing the hours away. Queueing for bgs/arenas/dungeons from any location are what made wow feel empty outside of capital cities, yet people embraced it out of convenience. Basically levelling faster became more important than the levelling experience. I mean its quicker to go from 1-85 now than it was to go 1-60 in vanilla, a lot quicker.

Things like raiding crossroads/tarren mill dont happen nearly as often now, and its not because there is more to do at 85 than there was at 60, its still the same 3 core things, raid/pvp/repgrind. Thats all there was in vanilla, and thats all there is now, its just cloaked in arena, guild bg's, daily quests etc so there are more options of the same thing, whereas back in vanilla we made our own options. I mean lets face it, a lot of people now just spend their free time on wow farming achievements that really dont mean anything, like /hugging animals or w/e.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 16m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .311
Codebar 138
ProTech135
EmSc Tv 35
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 51763
Sea 4189
Mini 2040
Soma 2004
hero 722
Larva 641
Shuttle 534
Soulkey 477
Light 436
firebathero 390
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 360
BeSt 239
Last 143
Sea.KH 97
Hyun 93
Hm[arnc] 91
Sharp 89
Pusan 80
Free 63
Movie 57
sorry 55
sSak 53
Barracks 53
NaDa 43
Shinee 37
HiyA 32
Sacsri 31
zelot 22
GoRush 13
Shine 10
Icarus 9
Sexy 9
soO 8
Dota 2
qojqva3095
syndereN479
Counter-Strike
fl0m3087
byalli681
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor197
Other Games
singsing2568
B2W.Neo791
Beastyqt757
XaKoH 526
ToD75
Rex33
QueenE27
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL14557
Other Games
BasetradeTV252
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 35
EmSc2Tv 35
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2111
League of Legends
• Nemesis1837
• Jankos1775
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
16m
BSL
5h 16m
Afreeca Starleague
20h 16m
Wardi Open
20h 16m
Replay Cast
1d 10h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 20h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.