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Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 05:15:36
April 21 2012 05:14 GMT
#281
http://swogitools.com/card.php?id=300192

Pretty sure devs know its pretty imba lol.

Had to reroll crux >.>

I just can't find a good way to grind with Vita.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 06:03:43
April 21 2012 05:47 GMT
#282
On April 21 2012 13:00 Gummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 12:03 Hesmyrr wrote:
I am currently trying to replace the few followers that came with original deck with library characters since they seem to work well with uniform tweak. However, can anyone advise me which option out of these two are better?
Lib. Lucca (5/2/6) or New Lib. Member (4/3/5)

http://swogitools.com/card.php?id=300015
http://swogitools.com/card.php?id=300172

I just grinded for the latter but it seems crafting it will put severe strain on my cat doll resource (currently I have 52) while the former is bit more rounded out. And then there is the fact that my deck are already weak against defense counters such as Red Moon and Shield Break, and New Lib. Member seem to be bit more vulnerable.

My current deck
[image loading]
As you can see still woefully incomplete, I need some decent debuff/removal card definitely and I am considering switching from cooking club deck to the library club deck. Any other advice about how to improve my deck would be welcome.


NLM is actually good because it eats shieldbreak. Since it is such a weak card anyway, it is better that it eat the shieldbreak than one of your higher size followers.

That's interesting point. I might as well replace 2 New Cook Club Students (or Svia since I have too much size 4 followers) with New Lib. Member then.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
April 21 2012 13:13 GMT
#283
On April 21 2012 14:14 Nazza wrote:
http://swogitools.com/card.php?id=300192

Pretty sure devs know its pretty imba lol.

Had to reroll crux >.>

I just can't find a good way to grind with Vita.


Vita is excellent for grinding, you just need some Wall Climbs/Uniform Tweaks and you're good to go.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 14:40:58
April 21 2012 14:39 GMT
#284
On April 21 2012 22:13 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 14:14 Nazza wrote:
http://swogitools.com/card.php?id=300192

Pretty sure devs know its pretty imba lol.

Had to reroll crux >.>

I just can't find a good way to grind with Vita.


Vita is excellent for grinding, you just need some Wall Climbs/Uniform Tweaks and you're good to go.


Those are rares. Crux can kill pretty much anything with commons/uncommons coz AI is stupid .

EDIT: ok uniform mod isn't, maybe I'll try that later.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
April 21 2012 19:51 GMT
#285
On April 21 2012 23:39 Nazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 22:13 Cel.erity wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:14 Nazza wrote:
http://swogitools.com/card.php?id=300192

Pretty sure devs know its pretty imba lol.

Had to reroll crux >.>

I just can't find a good way to grind with Vita.


Vita is excellent for grinding, you just need some Wall Climbs/Uniform Tweaks and you're good to go.


Those are rares. Crux can kill pretty much anything with commons/uncommons coz AI is stupid .

EDIT: ok uniform mod isn't, maybe I'll try that later.


The thing is, Vita has better common/uncommon followers than Crux, but their buff spells are much worse. Once you get the buff spells though, you should be clearing faster than any other faction.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
April 22 2012 03:40 GMT
#286
Then again you can clear most dungeons with a 40 dp dl deck.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
April 22 2012 04:44 GMT
#287
I finally completed 10 runs of the Intermediate dungeon! *hugs Cannelle*

I still need 75 more Swords if I want to make Child Cannelle, though. This is going to take a while >.< I guess my plan will be to do 10 runs of Advanced to get Gart and finish the quest, and spam Fight along the way.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 22 2012 05:02 GMT
#288
On April 22 2012 13:44 Zeke50100 wrote:
I finally completed 10 runs of the Intermediate dungeon! *hugs Cannelle*

I still need 75 more Swords if I want to make Child Cannelle, though. This is going to take a while >.< I guess my plan will be to do 10 runs of Advanced to get Gart and finish the quest, and spam Fight along the way.

I actually completed Advanced Dungeon before Intermediate, so I just chose to skip the Cannelle quest >.>
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 10:27:55
April 22 2012 10:24 GMT
#289
Picked up a kana and sinclair. Wow this shit is OP. It's like embarrassing how OP it is. 1 turn set up. Press ready 5 times, boss dead.
I'm sure this isn't optimal, but playing:
Education + Kana + Marksman is like a first turn autowin against anything without target-all removal.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
April 22 2012 10:27 GMT
#290
What character should I get for a standard PvE Crux deck? Vanilla Luthica doesn't cut it for me in the higher level dungeons, where the enemy characters have better cards and better abilities.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 10:49:25
April 22 2012 10:28 GMT
#291
On April 22 2012 19:27 ChrisXIV wrote:
What character should I get for a standard PvE Crux deck? Vanilla Luthica doesn't cut it for me in the higher level dungeons, where the enemy characters have better cards and better abilities.

The time it takes you to get a significantly better character card is time you would have better spent getting a rare follower and some kanas. See the post above yours, kana is the most OP card in the game right now. Abuse the fuck out of it while you can!

I feel like this game needs 2 spell tiers just like in MTG there were sorcery and instants. Many spells in the game right now (looking and brilliant brain in particular) have this probably unintended property that every k additional spells you play increases the probability of nothing happening to 1/2(1+k). I understand that such "counterspell" type spells need to be balanced for their otherwise overwhelming power, but against most of the disables in that tier, you are simply better off playing almost anything else with that size. To illustrate this point, by itself, in the best case, brilliant brain has a 1/2 chance of doing nothing... For 2 size, it is as likely to be useless as useful. Add an additional spell and it has a 3/4 chance of doing nothing. Add a 3rd spell, 5/6. I don't think there exists a valid strategy with a lower probability of success than attempting to blindly hit a spell you don't even know exists with another spell that has such a high chance of doing nothing--furthermore it is not a best response to almost any belief about what the other player has placed.

The direct implications here are that you cannot use any kind of "counter" abilities to facilitate a setup. You can only use them to protect a setup that has already been completed. Then in this case, there are far better ways of protecting a setup than using these types of abilities. So based on maximizing expectations of victory, it's virtually unjustifiable to run cards like brilliant brain in your deck since it is dominated by another card of size 2 on every conceivable board.

If, however, these "instant"-tier spells cast before your other spells, they could be used to actually protect a setup instead of just poorly defending a snowball. This would be a viable role, and I would consider running such a card with a 50/50 probability of hitting something.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
April 22 2012 10:44 GMT
#292
On April 22 2012 19:28 Gummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 19:27 ChrisXIV wrote:
What character should I get for a standard PvE Crux deck? Vanilla Luthica doesn't cut it for me in the higher level dungeons, where the enemy characters have better cards and better abilities.

The time it takes you to get a significantly better character card is time you would have better spent getting a rare follower and some kanas. See the post above yours, kana is the most OP card in the game right now. Abuse the fuck out of it while you can!

OK, so I'll try to get Kana - is there a rare follower that I should absolutely get?
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
April 22 2012 11:00 GMT
#293
On April 22 2012 19:44 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 19:28 Gummy wrote:
On April 22 2012 19:27 ChrisXIV wrote:
What character should I get for a standard PvE Crux deck? Vanilla Luthica doesn't cut it for me in the higher level dungeons, where the enemy characters have better cards and better abilities.

The time it takes you to get a significantly better character card is time you would have better spent getting a rare follower and some kanas. See the post above yours, kana is the most OP card in the game right now. Abuse the fuck out of it while you can!

OK, so I'll try to get Kana - is there a rare follower that I should absolutely get?


I got a sinclair and it kicks ass in conjunction with cards like fast forward and education results. The weakness is that it can't really be run with any attempts to recycle (lancer knight) so against certain 50hp bosses, it's tough to win before they deck you. Also farming it requires witch tower, which is basically unbeatable until you get some serious DP, though Celerity's vods on his twitch.tv site offers some really useful tips for how to take down the boss with vita. The crux dungeon is somewhat easier, and as celerity said "if you can beat leviathan [sic] you can beat sigma."

One way you can farm that dungeon for the heart stones, however, is just to get up to floor 10, then tank several fights in a row (click lobby to quit immediately) then start over. Alternatively, you can follow celerity's advice and switch between dungeons once you get to floor 10, burn the 15 minute cooldown, then restart at floor 1.

Another rare follower you might consider getting is Vanguard knight. It doesn't have as much growth potential as sinclair, but it doesn't burn your graveyard, so it might be stronger against certain bosses. You pay the premium with the extra 1 in size, and additional vulnerability to certain high-floor character cards that burn spells from your hand.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
April 22 2012 11:43 GMT
#294
Vanguard is great for a snowball that keeps you from decking out once you've got her above 15 ATK/STA or so.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
April 22 2012 11:57 GMT
#295
On April 22 2012 20:43 iGrok wrote:
Vanguard is great for a snowball that keeps you from decking out once you've got her above 15 ATK/STA or so.

I'd say one more advantage for Sinclair over vanguard is that Sinclair is easier to swap in. She gets the same survivability on the first hit but turns around with 2 more damage on the first counter. That can be a huge difference when trying to stop an enemy snowball.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
April 22 2012 11:58 GMT
#296
On April 22 2012 20:57 Gummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 20:43 iGrok wrote:
Vanguard is great for a snowball that keeps you from decking out once you've got her above 15 ATK/STA or so.

I'd say one more advantage for Sinclair over vanguard is that Sinclair is easier to swap in. She gets the same survivability on the first hit but turns around with 2 more damage on the first counter. That can be a huge difference when trying to stop an enemy snowball.

And one advantage for vanguard is that she's cuter :p
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
April 22 2012 12:01 GMT
#297
On April 22 2012 20:58 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 20:57 Gummy wrote:
On April 22 2012 20:43 iGrok wrote:
Vanguard is great for a snowball that keeps you from decking out once you've got her above 15 ATK/STA or so.

I'd say one more advantage for Sinclair over vanguard is that Sinclair is easier to swap in. She gets the same survivability on the first hit but turns around with 2 more damage on the first counter. That can be a huge difference when trying to stop an enemy snowball.

And one advantage for vanguard is that she's cuter :p

No way. Pink hair best hair.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
April 22 2012 12:07 GMT
#298
Only one way to be sure!


[image loading] [image loading]

Poll: Who is cuter?

Vanguard Knight (15)
 
56%

Crux Knight Sinclair (12)
 
44%

27 total votes

Your vote: Who is cuter?

(Vote): Vanguard Knight
(Vote): Crux Knight Sinclair


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Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
April 22 2012 12:37 GMT
#299
[image loading]

I feel like this image is necessary for legitimizing the vote.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
April 22 2012 12:56 GMT
#300
Alright, Sinclair it is. Both the card I'm working towards as well as the cuter one. :D
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
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