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I must admit that recently I got totally bored with laddering and wanted to entertain myself a bit. I've created account pL.Manit0u (pL. standing for Professional Laming Association) and started to ladder in a very specific way. I played each race until first win or if I lost first or even second game I played until I got 50% stats with this race and then switching to another race in order of appearance  What's unusual in this is that I promised myself never to use a strategy I have used before with this race what meant a lot of improvisation and many cheese strats but I really enjoyed that.
Here are some of my todays achievements for the interested (perhaps someone will improve some of those strats and use them in the future):
Why orcs whine about destros? o_O
Unusual orc rush, 15 min battle with 1 short break for drink 
Scary dead elves!!!
Lame imba vs ud
Have fun!
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Hilarious man, I especially liked the last one and your opponnents comments Keep them coming!
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Today I'm gonna do another "series" and see if I can get any more of that ^_^
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Ok, I did the hum part. After losing 0-3 when testing crazy shit (and discovering that tinker isn't a good hero for human, especially as first choice vs undead) I decided to make it the day of the MK and winning consequently 3-0 with solo MK 
For those interested:
MK1
MK2
MK3
Have fun !
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btw. maybe someone would like to join the Professional Laming Association? Just make the nick with pL. at start and do gay strats (and post reps here so we can all laugh out loud). Maybe even we could create a clan for fun some day ^_^
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i'll give it a shot
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Yeah, go go sole I wanna see some of your imba gay strats ^_^
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dont even bother to write a description for the replay? good work you leaching faggot
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Easy off the roids there champ.
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On September 17 2005 10:43 Keanu_Reaver wrote: dont even bother to write a description for the replay? good work you leaching faggot
I'm not really sure how should I understand that...
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On September 17 2005 12:22 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2005 10:43 Keanu_Reaver wrote: dont even bother to write a description for the replay? good work you leaching faggot I'm not really sure how should I understand that...
what the fuck is not to understand br.com doesn't belong to you, nor does it belong to any other twelve year old faggot thinking a websites bandwidth should be used for their own gain without any thoughts of common courtesy to the website you're leeching from. you know why br.com has ads? to pay for the bandwidth that the site uses up. if you're going to leech their bandwidth, the least you could do is post a description for the replay so it will be useful for the community.
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way to hostile for a few hundred kb of bandwidth he might be using up
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leeching is leeching, its a big reason the why the br.com replay section has turned into shit.
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On September 17 2005 12:37 Keanu_Reaver wrote: twelve year old faggot thinking a websites bandwidth should be used for their own gain
I'm 23 for your knowledge, and I'm using br.com to be able to share some replays with the others. I think this is what such sites exist for and since it doesn't belong to you too, you are in no position of flaming me here for such a stupid thing as using online resources the way they're meant to be. I did not offend you or anyone else in any way, yet you call me "faggot" and "leecher" and you're speaking of MY lack of "courtesy". Please grow up and learn to behave a bit.
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what the fuck? how retarded are you. the person who made the fucking website said he doesn't want leechers using the replay portion of the website in that way. he is currently remaking the site and intends to do away with the replay section all together, thanks to faggots like you ruining it. hell, most of the br.com community is pushing for that anyway, because its become such a cesspool.
usng online resources the way they're meant to be? what kind of worthless fucking egocentric idiot are you to think that privately owned non-profit community websites are actually intended for you to leech off of. you sound like a spoiled little brat, i rue your existence.
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man thats mind blowing you would post something like that, go drink chlorine
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On September 17 2005 15:17 Keanu_Reaver wrote: what the fuck? how retarded are you. the person who made the fucking website said he doesn't want leechers using the replay portion of the website in that way. he is currently remaking the site and intends to do away with the replay section all together, thanks to faggots like you ruining it. hell, most of the br.com community is pushing for that anyway, because its become such a cesspool.
usng online resources the way they're meant to be? what kind of worthless fucking egocentric idiot are you to think that privately owned non-profit community websites are actually intended for you to leech off of. you sound like a spoiled little brat, i rue your existence.
If this site is not for hosting replays then what is it purpose? If they'll get the replay section down it's fine with me, there are many other sites. And stop this offtopic bullshit please. If you want to flame me then create your own topic titled "How I hate other internet users, I'm pro and you're noobs, only I know what's wrong or not" or something like that.
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btw. LTT, wisp me again in wc3, I don't remember all the numbers you have in your nick thus can't reply (and been a bit occupied with the game).
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this isn't off topic, dont try to fucking dodge me or ignore what im telling you when you're taking part in ruining an aspect of a community i've been a part of for a long time. why dont you try and read the website name when figuring out what the sites purpose is you ignorant little brat.
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Since you don't like people who post replays on replay sites I will just ignore you and won't reply any more to your posts as I don't like to lower myself to your level.
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Is Mage socc+priest (+optional knights or rifles) still valid? Haven't played since FT came out.
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rif/caster and knight/caster are most standard human strategies. Pure casters are used too, especialy against orc.
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keanu reaver is one of the raters on br.com and has been part of its community for a long time so i guess it's more personal to him, but with less flames what hes trying to point out is that br.com is not supposed to be a "replay site" per se, the idea i think is that good replays are posted there are for people to browse through and find good replays, not for random people to use it just to host their own replays without at least describing what it is
the replay section is all a piece of shit now because its effectively become just a place for people to host their own replays, instead of sharing more like the report section
edit: =D continue with your quest of using different BO though its been fun so far
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On September 17 2005 21:03 Locked wrote: keanu reaver is one of the raters on br.com and has been part of its community for a long time so its personal to him, but with less flames what hes trying to point out is that br.com is not supposed to be a "replay site" persay, the idea i think is that good replays are posted there are for people to browse through and find good replays, not for random people to use it just to host their own replays without atleast describing what it is
the replay section is all a piece of shit now because its effectively become just a place for people to host their own replays, instead of sharing more like the report section
Well, if he'd say that at the start instead of flaming all along then things would look different. I'm not going to use br.com for further hosting anyway thanks to LTT (big thanks again man) so KR may rest assured I'm not going to spam br.com any more with my replays
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in truth, i've tried to be diplomatic about explaining to people why they shouldn't abuse the br.com replay section before. it has never worked, and never gotten any results, so instead i just flame to take out some frustration on the person. imagine if a thread section of tl.net suddenly got invaded by spammers and no matter how many times the spam was removed or spammers banned, it kept coming back rendering that section of tl.net worthless until everyone decided instead to just remove the section all together. wouldn't that piss you off?
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On September 18 2005 02:23 Keanu_Reaver wrote: in truth, i've tried to be diplomatic about explaining to people why they shouldn't abuse the br.com replay section before. it has never worked, and never gotten any results, so instead i just flame to take out some frustration on the person. imagine if a thread section of tl.net suddenly got invaded by spammers and no matter how many times the spam was removed or spammers banned, it kept coming back rendering that section of tl.net worthless until everyone decided instead to just remove the section all together. wouldn't that piss you off?
Well, you could always try to be diplomatic this one more time. I'm a reasonable person and if you pointed out the good arguments the thing would've been dealt with in 2 posts of polite conversation instead of 14 posts of random flaming and craptalk btw. why br.com doesn't have the replay analysing machine like replayers.com for instance? You know, so you don't have to fill out the duration/players/map/version etc. fields?
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JV doesn't really care enough to update it, the replay section was just supposed to be a handy little addition to the site for reporters to upload the replay of the game they were reporting. but again, the section has gone so down hill that JV really doesn't want to bother updating it, and instead will just have it removed all together when the site is remade.
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On September 17 2005 15:17 Keanu_Reaver wrote: what the fuck? how retarded are you. the person who made the fucking website said he doesn't want leechers using the replay portion of the website in that way. he is currently remaking the site and intends to do away with the replay section all together, thanks to faggots like you ruining it. hell, most of the br.com community is pushing for that anyway, because its become such a cesspool.
usng online resources the way they're meant to be? what kind of worthless fucking egocentric idiot are you to think that privately owned non-profit community websites are actually intended for you to leech off of. you sound like a spoiled little brat, i rue your existence. Oh, I thought the rules said you just shouldn't spam it? I've used it to upload reps every now and then but hm, didn't know it was supposed to be used only for ..? I assume good replays? Or replays of games you post in your battlereport?
EDIT: Ok this was explained in the posts above mine
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www.wcreplays.com is a nice place to host War3 replays in my experience. They have a built in W3Gmaster type thing that gets stats like hero levels. 19/20 member (public) replays uploaded don't have descriptions or anything and no one has a problem with it.
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br.com has an amazing history of great old replays... I hope they atleast keep those.. like all the way up until 2002.
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Heh, today I came to some idea I've never tried before. I randomed and got UD vs NE on Turtle Rock (which is basically autoloss for undead). First I tried some ghoul/garging but one of the worst nightmares in this case came to living, my oponent went for Panda as his second hero choice. I thought it was all over when Panda obliterated my army in 2 seconds but then the light shined in my head: if NE goes mass expansion vs everything then why the hell UD shouldn't go mass expansion vs NE? (in most pro reps I've seen UD lost due to lack of expansion)
Here are the results of this experiment:
UD overexpanding NE
Have fun!
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Hahaha, I loved this sc style cata drop and microing them in and out of zep Also later switch to mass hh's was brilliant maneuver. Welcome to the club! ^_^
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Polymorph, mass kodo's devour, Witchdoc spam stasistrap, necro mass skelly+meatwagon, mass bansheeposession, triple boneyard, uberarmour knights+ dev aura+ innerfire. dott mass tornado thingy. 3 Hero's with summons maxed.
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dott mass tornado thingy isnt cheese, its pretty much the basic on NE vs ORC
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On September 20 2005 05:53 suxN wrote:dott mass tornado thingy isnt cheese, its pretty much the basic on NE vs ORC 
Well, now it became basic vs everything except hum where they go bear/dryad (and really don't need anything else). My last 3 games as UD vs NE were against dotts... :/
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Ok, WaweR decided to join the club too and test some of the 1.19 stuff  His first lame game was on new echo isles. It was orc vs human, WaweR decided to go ultimate cheese and went for fast tower rush (no rax at all) with FL as his first and only hero choice. Imagine his surprise when he was walking towards hum base with FL + peons and half the way he met AM + a couple of footies and some peasants ^_^ There's been some both sided peasant/peon killing, WaweR gaining the upper hand when he managed to kill AM but was forced to retreat soon after. From now on the game starts. Hum goes into WaweR's base and starts building towers. WaweR already has a fair number of towers of his own in the main so he's secure for a while. Human placing towers and laying pressure on WaweR with his AM + rifles gets tense. This is when WaweR places 2 proxy rax from which he starts off hh production (his first units in this game) and sends 4 peons to put towers under human main. Who will win this tower wars? See for yourself 
Tower Wars
Have Fun!
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Haha, I did some testing on the new maps on my old acc and I came up with this quite crazy idea:
Quite uncommon rush (HvE)
Have Fun!
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Out of boredom me and a friend of mine did a hu/hu combo in AT. Afther teching quickly we both build 3 arcane vaults and filled up our heroes with 18 towers combined and owned the shit out of them No rep tho ;( forgot to save. Fun tactics ftw!
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Haha, I wanna try it some day  btw. would anyone like to play in the 2on2 random race tour today? I was going to try it with WaweR but he's not sure if he'll be at home.
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Hmm, if anyone is interested, i had some issues with this patching stuff and even more with working nocd crack, but now im back and running and ready to make some new imba replays.
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Anyone tryed to tower as ud vs non ud? That is my big goal when it comes to cheese. Have only done it once in AT but we had already won then. I dont currently got the guts and skill to pull it of. Since you use skull to put out blight you have a nice harasspoint as soon as you get up a few towers. Anyone who dares to try it?
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i want to try mass militia (build a town hall in their base) :/
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On October 02 2005 17:49 Eatme wrote: Anyone tryed to tower as ud vs non ud? That is my big goal when it comes to cheese. Have only done it once in AT but we had already won then. I dont currently got the guts and skill to pull it of. Since you use skull to put out blight you have a nice harasspoint as soon as you get up a few towers. Anyone who dares to try it? I have a friend who does it all the time vs orc. Now granted probably neither him nor his opponant are great by any means but its usually funny to see that dead tower rush.
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On October 02 2005 17:49 Eatme wrote: Anyone tryed to tower as ud vs non ud? That is my big goal when it comes to cheese. Have only done it once in AT but we had already won then. I dont currently got the guts and skill to pull it of. Since you use skull to put out blight you have a nice harasspoint as soon as you get up a few towers. Anyone who dares to try it?
some guy pulled it off against a commentator for wcreplays.com, pretty funny to see a guy being towered by ud while doing a live audio
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mouz.PhilBot did it to SK.Elakeduck (or some other orc) on echo, it's nice to watch (replay was posted previously in this thread but it's from 1.19 or 1.18).
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On October 03 2005 08:29 Manit0u wrote: mouz.PhilBot did it to SK.Elakeduck (or some other orc) on echo, it's nice to watch (replay was posted previously in this thread but it's from 1.19 or 1.18). Hehe it's the right guy to tower against...
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winner did it vs wizard in wc3l finals @ lan 2 seasons ago
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I tried RoC for a while and me and a friend who had comp in same room made a cheesing team. His name was Cheddar and I was Gorgonzolla lol. Needless to say our cheese tactics were expected most of the time.
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Too bad theres no fresh replays of that... I could do it in like 10games in a row an probably pull it off but I'm soo bad that it would not be good to post it since the opponent would suck even harder. I could ask a friend to kick me with it but then it'll be staged. I just have to pracc a 100games or so to get in shape I guess.
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On October 03 2005 08:29 Manit0u wrote: mouz.PhilBot did it to SK.Elakeduck (or some other orc) on echo, it's nice to watch (replay was posted previously in this thread but it's from 1.19 or 1.18).
there is that evercraft program that lets you to switch versions of warcraft
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Hmmm... I remember that there were threads on TL.net (sc related i guess) where people argued if high apm = greater chance for win. Now I can surely say it's not true. I played some guy on ladder not long ago, we were both human, it was quite early in the morning and I've had quite a hangover (I hate hangovers). In this particular game my enemy had ~180apm while I had <100 (yeah, it sux), nevertheless I kicked his ass quite badly. So now I can only say that brain and experience >>>> apm.
For those interested:
Drunken style human (quite cheesy) ^_^
Have Fun!
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APM doesn't really matter no... i beat some guy with like 107 APM while he had 180+, human mirror (we were both random) you'd think that even though you'd think he could click faster thus more micro, which is really needed in a huvshu would make him win... but nah... strategy > (knights owned him, then we he got gryphs, rifles do just fine vs them 4 gryphons will lose to 4 riflemen surprisingly ;P )
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re-posted with proper link
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i used to go solo Blademaster, tech to tier 3 and just harrass with windwalk and stuff... try and stack him with bought stuff like circlets/perpiat of vit... then eventually i'd look and go "oh... 3000 gold" and mass tauren or something :/
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On October 03 2005 20:34 only)a-game wrote:ok a friend of mine made an account where he would try to win using only 1 hero and no army. and that hero will always be the NE Warden. See what happens when a warden takes on 2 NE heroes and a whole NE army!haha i think its a fun rep, of course good wc3 players will shit on this strat but its fun to watch tell me what you think!
Hrm, can't get the onlywarden game to run. It seems to only have an incomplete file on the site. Only 370 bytes -.-
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ok a friend of mine made an account where he would try to win using only 1 hero and no army. and that hero will always be the NE Warden.
See what happens when a warden takes on 2 NE heroes and a whole NE army!
haha i think its a fun rep, of course good wc3 players will shit on this strat but its fun to watch tell me what you think!
edit: i uploaded it somewhere else, apparently my first link wasnt working, but now it should work!
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Haha, it was really nice. Most people say that you cheat or start flaming and calling you bad manner when you pull off some hardcore and pretty unusual strat ^_^
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Ok guys, I am a low average ud player. This race is cool to my mind but i think it lacks of cheesy style ^^ So i was thinking about a cheese strats to have fun in some games. So i came to this idea of mass catapults as fast as possible the opponent main. So i was waiting for a quite large map, with any opponents and here i go against a human called "ipownedyou" which was more funny ^^ http://perso.wanadoo.fr/oh-clan/winvsipownyou(hu)-cheesy.w3g here is the link, hope you will enjoy the imba spirit !
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Ok, some of you wanted to see how undead can tower rush orc on echo isles. Since PhilBot's rep is from previous patch it won't work. Today I got tired of orcs owning me and went for it (my first try with this strat so it was quite slow). I didn't remember the build exactly (like when and why should you sell TP etc.) but it's more or less what he did.
Undead tower rushing orc
Enjoy!
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On October 03 2005 23:21 LTT wrote:Hrm, can't get the onlywarden game to run. It seems to only have an incomplete file on the site. Only 370 bytes -.-
there are some famous replays by this pro who always picks warden in FFA, builds moonwells and Towers everywhere, and dont stop harassing other players until lvl 10...But it was with 1.17 i guess...In 1v1, i would like to see the same strat
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On October 10 2005 05:28 FrogTom wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2005 23:21 LTT wrote:On October 03 2005 20:34 only)a-game wrote:ok a friend of mine made an account where he would try to win using only 1 hero and no army. and that hero will always be the NE Warden. See what happens when a warden takes on 2 NE heroes and a whole NE army!haha i think its a fun rep, of course good wc3 players will shit on this strat but its fun to watch tell me what you think! Hrm, can't get the onlywarden game to run. It seems to only have an incomplete file on the site. Only 370 bytes -.- there are some famous replays by this pro who always picks warden in FFA, builds moonwells and Towers everywhere, and dont stop harassing other players until lvl 10...But it was with 1.17 i guess...In 1v1, i would like to see the same strat 
Reminds me of a game where Grubby ATs with a friend and both of them go dual NE, warden only, with mass moonwells. Just shadowstriking heroes, staff of teleport back to base to heal and blink to move around. Haha, funny rep.
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Hahaha, I just played a game vs some really bad mannered nelf  His nick was Micro_Pimp (:D) and he tried to tower rush me on echo isles with potm + hunts + glaives. It could be quite dangerous if not his complete lack of skill or manner. Anyway I'll post a link to rep here because I think it was quite funny and some of you probably will enjoy reading his comments after I repelled his TR (and he said a lot).
The tale of NE who thinks UD is unbeatable.
Have Fun!
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On October 02 2005 17:55 SoleSteeler wrote: i want to try mass militia (build a town hall in their base) :/ That was a fynny strat but it can't work anymore... due to anti militia abuse patch. Unless you destroy your main townhall while you build one in your oponent's base. That would be ultra pimp if it worked though.
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What he meant was building a th at enemy base, making militia in main, tp'ing with militia to newly made th  Some guys in Poland raped people in 2on2 games by playing hu/ne and tp'ing militia to the ToL, it was awesome, early in the game enemy had to fight: dh, mk, some footies and arches, ToL, ~20 militia and when militia was over they started towering ^_^ Ownage.
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On October 10 2005 20:27 Manit0u wrote:What he meant was building a th at enemy base, making militia in main, tp'ing with militia to newly made th  Some guys in Poland raped people in 2on2 games by playing hu/ne and tp'ing militia to the ToL, it was awesome, early in the game enemy had to fight: dh, mk, some footies and arches, ToL, ~20 militia and when militia was over they started towering ^_^ Ownage.
actually i did mean making militia at a newly built town hall as well...
forgot about the change ;( i guess i could destroy my original townhall for the most do or die strategy ever
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Yeah, that would be awesome to watch Pls try it at some fastnick and post a rep here (no matter if you win or lose), I wanna see it!
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Ok, I've just tried something really hardcore in Undead mirror and I really hope people won't play like that (but I guess sooner or later they'll all start to do so since this strat owns very hard). It's all about getting to t2 fast, placing 2 temples, getting couple of necros and going for the enemy base with them. You would never believe how many skellies 4-5 necros can pump out of enemy graveyard  This strat is really amazing, there are only 2 ways to stop it: 1. Do the same strat but harass better so you come first to enemy base. 2. Get t3, destroyer upgrade and ~3 destros BEFORE your enemy gets to t3 (very unlikely)
Ultimate mirror hardcore.
This is only the example, I think this strat can be pulled a lot faster without even teching to t3 and upgrading necros (but I thought that more mana = more skellies = more ownage).
Enjoy!
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On October 10 2005 05:28 FrogTom wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2005 23:21 LTT wrote:On October 03 2005 20:34 only)a-game wrote:ok a friend of mine made an account where he would try to win using only 1 hero and no army. and that hero will always be the NE Warden. See what happens when a warden takes on 2 NE heroes and a whole NE army!haha i think its a fun rep, of course good wc3 players will shit on this strat but its fun to watch tell me what you think! Hrm, can't get the onlywarden game to run. It seems to only have an incomplete file on the site. Only 370 bytes -.- there are some famous replays by this pro who always picks warden in FFA, builds moonwells and Towers everywhere, and dont stop harassing other players until lvl 10...But it was with 1.17 i guess...In 1v1, i would like to see the same strat 
http://home.cogeco.ca/~joshdavie/blademaster vs mark.w3g http://home.cogeco.ca/~joshdavie/mark vs warden.w3g
vs my friend on LAN, he's not that good but it's still entertaining (at least it was for me)... blademaster solo vs him (as HU) and warden solo vs him (as orc)
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On October 21 2005 11:28 Manit0u wrote:Ok, I've just tried something really hardcore in Undead mirror and I really hope people won't play like that (but I guess sooner or later they'll all start to do so since this strat owns very hard). It's all about getting to t2 fast, placing 2 temples, getting couple of necros and going for the enemy base with them. You would never believe how many skellies 4-5 necros can pump out of enemy graveyard  This strat is really amazing, there are only 2 ways to stop it: 1. Do the same strat but harass better so you come first to enemy base. 2. Get t3, destroyer upgrade and ~3 destros BEFORE your enemy gets to t3 (very unlikely) Ultimate mirror hardcore.This is only the example, I think this strat can be pulled a lot faster without even teching to t3 and upgrading necros (but I thought that more mana = more skellies = more ownage). Enjoy! This strat was hot for a while in WC3 vanilla untill people started to stock dispelwant vs this. Early t2 was popular also because of the innate basedefence you get. Now those wants are gone and the antimagicunits replaced them. Anticaster being t3 in undead makes it viable again I guess.
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