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NexaS
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States202 Posts
February 26 2012 06:41 GMT
#441
For those of you who think it was a close fight or if any of you think that Edgar won (did you see the fight?), what aspects do you think Edgar won in? Or was beating Benson in ?
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Postman
Profile Joined July 2010
United States269 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 06:43:39
February 26 2012 06:42 GMT
#442
I feel like P4P Frankie is the better fighter, but it turns out that weight matters. More strikes and more take downs isn't the same as rocking a guy and controlling him on the ground, and I feel like Frankie and his corner are ignorant for not knowing how the fight was going (especially his corner). More strikes isn't the same thing as better striking.

Personally I would have rather been hit with the 2/3 punch Frankie combo than one of the meaty kicks Henderson was throwing.

Hopefully Frankie cuts down 145, if he's not scared that Aldo will do the same thing to him.
_Darwin_
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2374 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 06:46:03
February 26 2012 06:43 GMT
#443
On February 26 2012 15:41 NexaS wrote:
For those of you who think it was a close fight or if any of you think that Edgar won (did you see the fight?), what aspects do you think Edgar won in? Or was beating Benson in ?


bloodyelbow, mmafighting, mmamania, etc scored the fight for Edgar. don't pretend like it was black and white

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Insomniac22
Profile Joined February 2011
United States907 Posts
February 26 2012 06:45 GMT
#444
On February 26 2012 15:39 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
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On February 26 2012 15:33 absalom86 wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:28 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:26 Rylaji wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:24 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I think the statisticians will go over this one and rage a little bit.


Man do I dislike opinions like this.. It's a FIGHT, the damage done should be the main factor. To make an exaggeraded example it's like you can shoot a guy 5 times in the leg, but if he shoots you in the head it doesnt matter.

It's a fight, you are there to damage and take the guy out. Not see who can amount the most strikes. Sort of like you can throw 50 strikes, but it only takes one to KO someone.

All the damage you see on Edgars face is from the first two rounds please educate yourself it means nothing regarding the three rounds after and I'm pretty sure all judges and viewers had Edgar winning round one anyway. Some guys bruise easier, sometimes one round you take more damage than the four rounds you win after, etc. It's seriously ignorant and uneducated about the sport to look at someones face and have that be the end all of your winner.


I can't quite agree with you on the scoring. You seem to haze over that Benderson had two ( If i remember correctly ) close finishes. One by guillotine, One in top position pounding Frankie out in the fifth and probably some other moments I don't remember right now.

Frankie's punches just had no effect on Hendo. He looked the same when he came out as when he went into the fight. When you have close rounds ( not so close in terms of damage being done or closeness to finishes ) you subconsciously will look at the fighters as a judge so if you are all bloody and looking zombified it will factor into the decision.

How do you score Edgars knockdown in the fifth? I had that round 10-10 because of the knockdown versus the ending. Either way it was very close it's not a robbery in any way, I definitely don't think Bendo nor Edgar clearly won that one.

It's depressing to see how many people are quoting 'damage done' when in reality there wasn't an observable difference after round two. All the observable damage was done in the first two rounds of which Edgar won the first. What does that tell you about looking at damage? If the damage is done in the first two rounds that doesn't mean you score the next three based on that as well, it's just not how it works.

Seeing as Bendo took him down at the end of the round and finished on top with some GnP I think bendo stole the last round. :3
Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
February 26 2012 06:46 GMT
#445
On February 26 2012 15:42 Postman wrote:
I feel like P4P Frankie is the better fighter, but it turns out that weight matters. More strikes and more take downs isn't the same as rocking a guy and controlling him on the ground, and I feel like Frankie and his corner are ignorant for not knowing how the fight was going (especially his corner). More strikes isn't the same thing as better striking.

Personally I would have rather been hit with the 2/3 punch Frankie combo than one of the meaty kicks Henderson was throwing.

Hopefully Frankie cuts down 145, if he's not scared that Aldo will do the same thing to him.


Aldo will no doubt fuck him up. This was close, a fight vs Aldo will not be.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
February 26 2012 06:48 GMT
#446
On February 26 2012 15:46 Rylaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 15:42 Postman wrote:
I feel like P4P Frankie is the better fighter, but it turns out that weight matters. More strikes and more take downs isn't the same as rocking a guy and controlling him on the ground, and I feel like Frankie and his corner are ignorant for not knowing how the fight was going (especially his corner). More strikes isn't the same thing as better striking.

Personally I would have rather been hit with the 2/3 punch Frankie combo than one of the meaty kicks Henderson was throwing.

Hopefully Frankie cuts down 145, if he's not scared that Aldo will do the same thing to him.


Aldo will no doubt fuck him up. This was close, a fight vs Aldo will not be.


That depends on which Aldo shows up. I personally think the Aldo that fought Homminick and Florian loses to Edgar. When Aldo is in attack mode, yeah...he's nasty.
Weaponx3
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada232 Posts
February 26 2012 06:54 GMT
#447
On February 26 2012 15:24 absalom86 wrote:
Jesus fighters ... Such a huge turn-off. God decided to bless Bendo with his athleticism while he lets children starve to death in Africa apparently.


God sent his son to die for us so that we may learn to follow him and live selfless lives loving one another. Jesus healed the poor, feed the hungry and protected the defenseless. The reason there are starving children is because we allow it not God, Bendo thanking God because he is creator is a different debate. You can't argue with the example Jesus set and how we fail to come close to him. If it bothers you so much then it is probably for good reason.
_Darwin_
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2374 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 06:57:56
February 26 2012 06:56 GMT
#448
On February 26 2012 15:54 Weaponx3 wrote:
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On February 26 2012 15:24 absalom86 wrote:
Jesus fighters ... Such a huge turn-off. God decided to bless Bendo with his athleticism while he lets children starve to death in Africa apparently.


God sent his son to die for us so that we may learn to follow him and live selfless lives loving one another. Jesus healed the poor, feed the hungry and protected the defenseless. The reason there are starving children is because we allow it not God, Bendo thanking God because he is creator is a different debate. You can't argue with the example Jesus set and how we fail to come close to him. If it bothers you so much then it is probably for good reason.


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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 07:03:33
February 26 2012 06:56 GMT
#449
Funny fight that couldn't have been more one sided but that shows that you shouldn't look at how easy someone bleeds or bruises up to score rounds. There's hundreds of fights like this one out there that are reasons not to take damage as a key judging criteria. Saying Bendo won is of course fine, the fight was incredibly close. To look at damage done, but to be ignorant of how the damage came to be (i.e. rounds one 10-9 and two 9-10), is just dumb.

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danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
February 26 2012 06:59 GMT
#450
On February 26 2012 15:56 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Funny fight that couldn't have been more one sided but that shows that you shouldn't look at how easy someone bleeds or bruises up to score rounds.

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i agree with you but this one doesn't apply. silva finished the fight
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danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
February 26 2012 07:00 GMT
#451
why is the press conference "private"?
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_Darwin_
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2374 Posts
February 26 2012 07:01 GMT
#452
On February 26 2012 16:00 danmooj1 wrote:
why is the press conference "private"?

http://www.ufc.com/media/144-post-pc
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ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
February 26 2012 07:02 GMT
#453
On February 26 2012 15:59 danmooj1 wrote:
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On February 26 2012 15:56 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Funny fight that couldn't have been more one sided but that shows that you shouldn't look at how easy someone bleeds or bruises up to score rounds.

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i agree with you but this one doesn't apply. silva finished the fight


How does the fact that Silva finished the fight disprove his point at all?
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
February 26 2012 07:02 GMT
#454
On February 26 2012 15:59 danmooj1 wrote:
i agree with you but this one doesn't apply. silva finished the fight

Finishing it is irrelevant, everyone had that 40-36 going into last round which is what matters for the argument here.
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_Darwin_
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2374 Posts
February 26 2012 07:02 GMT
#455
Rampage sounding surprisingly optimistic. Has many more years left.


Pettis gets the title shot. FOR A SPLIT DECISION OVER JEREMY STEPHENS AND A WIN OVER JOE LAUZON? lol
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Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
February 26 2012 07:02 GMT
#456
On February 26 2012 15:56 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Funny fight that couldn't have been more one sided but that shows that you shouldn't look at how easy someone bleeds or bruises up to score rounds. There's hundreds of fights like this one out there that are reasons not to take damage as a key judging criteria. Saying Bendo won is of course fine, the fight was incredibly close. To look at damage done, but to be ignorant of how the damage came to be (rounds one and two) is just dumb.



I think some of the posters were talking about the fact that Frankie Edgar looked like a zombie at the end of the fight. You can look at him and see that he looked like he was hurting. Bendo looked like the fight just started.

There's no doubt some fighters are "bleeders" and they can't help it, but I think Henderson won this fight. I don't agree with the judge score cards, but I do think Bendo won.
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D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
February 26 2012 07:03 GMT
#457
it isnt ?

http://www.ufc.com/media/144-post-pc

im watching it

Damn I thought edgar had it
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danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
February 26 2012 07:05 GMT
#458
On February 26 2012 16:02 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
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On February 26 2012 15:59 danmooj1 wrote:
i agree with you but this one doesn't apply. silva finished the fight

Finishing it is irrelevant, everyone had that 40-36 going into last round which is what matters for the argument here.


Oops, yeah you're right. I misunderstood your post

and thanks for the link to the press conference guys
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Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
February 26 2012 07:07 GMT
#459
On February 26 2012 16:02 _Darwin_ wrote:
Rampage sounding surprisingly optimistic. Has many more years left.


Pettis gets the title shot. FOR A SPLIT DECISION OVER JEREMY STEPHENS AND A WIN OVER JOE LAUZON? lol

I think 90% of the motivation there is having a win over Bendo, which is a legitimate boost to his claim to a title shot. Personally, I always want to see champions get a shot at redeeming their losses, and fighters who have a win over the champion get a shot at the belt. Whenever there is a decent claim for a title shot, by a guy that has a win over the current champ, it's just a good time to make it happen.
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Andrew2658
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 07:09:25
February 26 2012 07:07 GMT
#460
FightMetric for the Bendo Edgar bout. Says judges made the right decision.
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