EPTUFC 144: Edgar vs Henderson - Page 22
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lannisport
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Karliath
United States2214 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:24 absalom86 wrote: Jesus fighters ... Such a huge turn-off. God decided to bless Hendo with his athleticism while he lets children starve to death in Africa apparently. Seriously, right? -_- (ah well, let's not turn this into another religion debate thread...) | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
for those interested and yeah, people with scar tissue from previous damage bruise and bleed WAY easier than others who haven't taken punishment. Frankie was gushing in large part because of scar tissue | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:26 Rylaji wrote: Man do I dislike opinions like this.. It's a FIGHT, the damage done should be the main factor. To make an exaggeraded example it's like you can shoot a guy 5 times in the leg, but if he shoots you in the head it doesnt matter. It's a fight, you are there to damage and take the guy out. Not see who can amount the most strikes. Sort of like you can throw 50 strikes, but it only takes one to KO someone. It isn't though. There is a lot more to it than just strikes. In fact strikes mean very little in a fight. It's all about control, staying on top and takedowns. That's why we have TKOs and stoppages if a guy cannot continue from the damage. | ||
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Rylaji
Sweden580 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:28 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: All the damage you see on Edgars face is from the first two rounds please educate yourself it means nothing regarding the three rounds after and I'm pretty sure all judges and viewers had Edgar winning round one anyway. Some guys bruise easier, sometimes one round you take more damage than the four rounds you win after, etc. It's seriously ignorant and uneducated about the sport to look at someones face and have that be the end all of your winner. Im not saying you should ONLY look at his face, but you are acting as if every strike Edgar throws does X amount of damage when in reality it does not. Also I dont see how the damage was JUST done in the first two, it's harder to spot damage done to a guy who is already bleeding. | ||
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Rylaji
Sweden580 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:31 StarStruck wrote: It isn't though. There is a lot more to it than just strikes. In fact strikes mean very little in a fight. It's all about control, staying on top and takedowns. That's why we have TKOs and stoppages if a guy cannot continue from the damage. Yeah, and look at fights that are decided by takedowns and "octagon control". It's not fights as much as WWE. | ||
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Andrew2658
United States356 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOp7BoShX4Y | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:28 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: All the damage you see on Edgars face is from the first two rounds please educate yourself it means nothing regarding the three rounds after and I'm pretty sure all judges and viewers had Edgar winning round one anyway. Some guys bruise easier, sometimes one round you take more damage than the four rounds you win after, etc. It's seriously ignorant and uneducated about the sport to look at someones face and have that be the end all of your winner. I can't quite agree with you on the scoring. You seem to haze over that Benderson had two ( If i remember correctly ) close finishes. One by guillotine, One in top position pounding Frankie out in the fifth and probably some other moments I don't remember right now. Frankie's punches just had no effect on Hendo. He looked the same when he came out as when he went into the fight. When you have close rounds ( not so close in terms of damage being done or closeness to finishes ) you subconsciously will look at the fighters as a judge so if you are all bloody and looking zombified it will factor into the decision. | ||
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Zeller
United States1109 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:24 absalom86 wrote: Jesus fighters ... Such a huge turn-off. God decided to bless Hendo with his athleticism while he lets children starve to death in Africa apparently. Ah, well put sir. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
Takedowns have a lot of weight, especially if you can pass their guard. Strikes are scored differently. Hendo's strikes had the impact and he was able to keep a good distance from Edgar. Edgar had to eat kicks to close in. -_- | ||
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suspiciousbear
Canada112 Posts
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
1) Mark Hunt is a top 10 heavyweight. With a record of 8-7. He is also the goat. 2) Pettis is sick nasty 3) Frankie is still the man 4) Rampage is on his way out 5) Hioki was not overrated | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
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MaZza[KIS]
Australia2110 Posts
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arterian
Canada1157 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
His leg kicks. | ||
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
the numbers are pretty close, but considering the actual damage output, pretty easy to say that henderson won the striking department pretty handily | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:33 absalom86 wrote: I can't quite agree with you on the scoring. You seem to haze over that Benderson had two ( If i remember correctly ) close finishes. One by guillotine, One in top position pounding Frankie out in the fifth and probably some other moments I don't remember right now. Frankie's punches just had no effect on Hendo. He looked the same when he came out as when he went into the fight. When you have close rounds ( not so close in terms of damage being done or closeness to finishes ) you subconsciously will look at the fighters as a judge so if you are all bloody and looking zombified it will factor into the decision. How do you score Edgars knockdown in the fifth? I had that round 10-10 because of the knockdown versus the ending. Either way it was very close it's not a robbery in any way, I definitely don't think Bendo nor Edgar clearly won that one. It's depressing to see how many people are quoting 'damage done' when in reality there wasn't an observable difference after round two. All the observable damage was done in the first two rounds of which Edgar won the first. What does that tell you about looking at damage? If the damage is done in the first two rounds that doesn't mean you score the next three based on that as well, it's just not how it works. | ||
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