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On July 20 2012 07:31 Talin wrote:Tried Game of Thrones mod for the first time, I thought picking Westerlings would be clever... and then NOTHING EVER HAPPENED in my little corner of the world, rebellion ended, I got bored after 10 years and quit. So much for getting Jeyne on the Iron Throne.  I'm just going to go with Rhaegar next time, that's bound to be more... eventful. 
Yeah they're going to fix that. The wildlings came in a patch that was rushed as you couldn't actually play the mod after the last CK2 patch.
They're now working on more GoT scenarios, adding new content and removing all current bugs.
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I was talking about Westerlings, the Lannisters' vassals (+ Show Spoiler +the house of Robb's wife in the books
Apparently you can arrange a betrothal with Dany very early on if you play post-rebellion. And she's not too picky. Too good of an opportunity to miss out on.
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On July 20 2012 15:20 Talin wrote:I was talking about Westerlings, the Lannisters' vassals ( + Show Spoiler +the house of Robb's wife in the books ). I wanted to give it a go with some low to mid tier lord because that's how I normally play CK2. Apparently you can arrange a betrothal with Dany very early on if you play post-rebellion. And she's not too picky. Too good of an opportunity to miss out on.
Yea she'll marry anyone. Unfortunately it's pretty hard to press her claims when you're just a puny little lord.
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On July 20 2012 00:41 Roflhaxx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 01:57 Liamgamer55 wrote:
The Holy Roman Empire was crowned by the Pope it wasn't just a random claim. Also... the holy roman empire and the pope were constantly at each other's throats. Do you really think the pope would want another extremely powerful identity gaining further legitimacy and undermining his authority further? Do you think the Holy Roman Emperor would want that? I'm fine with ahistorical things happening but they should work within the confines of the way the world worked at the time.
Also as for kingdoms, the only people who could create new kingdoms (by this I mean crown/announce them) was the pope and the holy roman emperor. I'm fine with any duchy becoming a kingdom if they are very powerful and prestigeous and have favour with the pope and there hasn't been any new kingdoms created lately. However, that's not how the creation mechanics work ingame.
Also, I believe it's more fun aiming for targets like tacking over an existing kingdom, uniting the russian peoples or reviving an old kingdom rather than kingdoms just being a duchy only bigger. But if you are powerful enough what the holy roman emperor thinks is nothing of your concern.
And if you're powerful enough what people call you is none of your concern so you're perfectly happy being called just a duke.
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But apparently, powerful people like everyone to know that they are powerful, and, more importantly, more powerful than other people. The amount of people powerful enough to choose their own title, who then choose simple titles is pretty small. And when there are dozens of dukes running around, those guys might actually start to believe that they are your equal when you are also nothing more then a duke. If you are equal in power to the Holy Roman Emperor, it is your right to demand to be called emperor yourself.
And i assume that the pope himself would not really have any problem with crowning you. On the contrary, this gives him quite a lot of power over you, since that basically means that your power comes from him, and he has a say in the succession, because every emperor not crowned by him has problems with his legitimacy. Of course, the question is if the problems he would then get from the HRE are worth this, so you should really be powerful enough. And just in case the pope in rome does not want to crown you, there is nothing stopping you from instituting an antipope to do the crowning. That guy could then even say that you are the ACTUAL successor of the roman empire, and not the holy roman emperor who got crowned by the other pope in rome. If you are strong enough, that makes quite a lot of things possible.
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Crusader kings 2 is up on community's choice vote on the steam summer sale now for those interested. I am sure there a lots of people that have pirated versions.
Edit*: Oh it lost, guess not then.
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Holy shit, I just found out that the right-click menu on characters (diplomacy/go to character) has submenus. I don't know how i missed them, they are even mentioned in the tooltip...
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They can be very useful, especially when you see someone's face and want to goto their character screen.
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Yeah, now I'm using them all the time. Probably even overusing...
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Just checking in case I missed it - there's still no way of "bookmarking" a character, is there? So that you can make a shortlist which you can access quickly.
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Actually, there is, you have to use the submenu I mentioned. Right click a character, then right click the go to character button and then there is a star that does just that. The so-called characters of special interest may be shown in the outline and the messages concerning them have their own display rules.
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i just started getting into this.
i made a first game is count of dublin. Well, the first game my son killed me and then he had a rebellion cause everyone hated him, so i restarted.
This time im doing better and i created a duchy to press a dejure claim on another small county.
But my avatar insists on leading the charge? Is there a way to change that? I wanted to play without reloading, but my king charges into the enemy every single time and freaking dies. I just want him to sit in his castle with his military score of 4....
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On October 06 2012 20:22 LaNague wrote:
But my avatar insists on leading the charge? Is there a way to change that? I wanted to play without reloading, but my king charges into the enemy every single time and freaking dies. I just want him to sit in his castle with his military score of 4....
At a certain crown authority I think you can change who leads the armies, I guess replace your guy with another or move him to one of the side flanks which dont take quite a beating so early on. Particularly against rebels (its been a while since I played vanilla, CK2+ has a different rebel mechanic) I remember them being huge middle stacks which would pound on your mid stack, and if your leader was in that mid stack he would take a beating.
Alternatively, get a Queen instead!
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hm ok thanks, i dont have a crown, so no crown authority i guess, the space for it in "laws" is empty.
guess i just have to accept that i need to roll the dice if i want those 250 levies that my guy leads :D.
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Yeah I just checked it out on vanilla, if you hover over the guys name in your army it is grey and says 'Cannot replace nobles, crown authority too low'. So I guess while you are still a duchy you gotta live with it 
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If you are not independant you are controlled by the crown laws of whatever nation you are part of, so the only thing you can do if you want higher crown authority is vote yes whenever the king/duke/emperor tries to raise them.
On another note, currently trying out a game as the d'Hauteville (starts as duke of apulia) and I have to say that it's one of the easiest dynasties I've played as yet, with the way holy wars work you are essentially impervious to any muslim aggression, and you can just slowly take Sicily one part at a time with de jure claim instead of holy wars to stop the muslim lords from gangraping you, and once you have the entire kingdom of sicily you can just keep striking at the african lords whenever they go to war with eachother. It also helps that with your position in the middle of the mediterranean sea you have a huge edge over all the other catholic wars when it comes to crusades.
Right now I'm at around 1300 and I own the entire Kingdoms of Mauretania, Africa, Sicily, Egypt, Jerusalem, about half of Syria and Abyssinia, the entire duchy of Baghdad and Gascogne(-1 county). And my grandson is going to inherit France on top of that.
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On October 06 2012 21:31 Blondinbengt wrote:
If you are not independant you are controlled by the crown laws of whatever nation you are part of, so the only thing you can do if you want higher crown authority is vote yes whenever the king/duke/emperor tries to raise them.
Hes the Count/Earl of Dublin, Ireland hasnt even been formed yet so he has no liege.
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On October 06 2012 21:43 Vequeth wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2012 21:31 Blondinbengt wrote:
If you are not independant you are controlled by the crown laws of whatever nation you are part of, so the only thing you can do if you want higher crown authority is vote yes whenever the king/duke/emperor tries to raise them. Hes the Count/Earl of Dublin, Ireland hasnt even been formed yet so he has no liege.
Ah, I assumed it had been, oops.
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