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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
February 23 2012 21:16 GMT
#221
On February 24 2012 05:26 Talin wrote:
You do know what unit types enemy has though. You can see it when you hover over his holdings.

I'm mostly asking because of choices of buildings you get in towns, where you can pick buildings that give you more archers, infantry or cavalry. Some must be better than the others in some way against mostly-infantry armies in Britain.

But yeah, I know that numbers and modifiers count the most in Paradox games but even the smallest advantage is an advantage.


better focus on upgrading your own castles. imo you waste a lot of money if you upgrade the towns and churches yourself. The only thing worth it are the monastic schools and universities in your capital province because that is where you can do the legalism research.

if you upgrade the towns and churches you get little to no return and you cant keep troops from the towns and churches for too long because the vassals will hate you.
Miyoshino
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
314 Posts
February 23 2012 23:55 GMT
#222
In Sengoku the bigger players would sometimes suddenly split up. Often in two. I think that game did a much better job at having vassals switch sides.
But even in that game it was actually impossible for vassals of a losing side to switch over to you. In reality they would often jump at the opportunity to leave the sinking ship if that meant they could maintain some of their lands.

rather than that what mostly happened in that game is that the enemy would offer surrender. If you accepted surrender your main enemy would become your vassal. In reality he would be forced to commit suicide. You could probably still do that through the usual way, but then his son would take over. It would have made more sense to get rid of their male line and have their vassals become yours.

I started as a count in the HRE. I fought huge wars but never gained any new land. I gained several new lands but lost all of them to brothers. Then I decided to break free of the HRE. I used gold cheats to do this because I was pissed off at the game cheating me. HRE kept attacking me but I couldn't get any claims on their provinces so I never gained any after occupying several of them. I could force surrender, but then nothing happened. That's not right.

Because I wanted to gain lands through marriage, some of my sons actually married into the family of their wife. So even those lands I couldn't unify.
It all doesn't work very nice imo. Lots of things that need to be modded to improve the game. Also, the single player with the huge HRE and reasonably big France is kind of annoying. Better to have more smaller kingdoms.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 04:26:53
February 24 2012 04:11 GMT
#223
Miyoshino what you wrote sounds more like your own frustration then faults in the game. You can assume as much as you want but if the game does not work that way then it doesnt and no amount of you ranting about it is going to change it.

If you dont understand how the game works then ask or at least try the games tutorial. But coming here and ranting aimlessly is not making you look good.


If people want to play some multiplayer on the weekend please write me. So far it's just me and Euronyme but more people are always welcome.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 09:05:58
February 24 2012 04:34 GMT
#224
On February 24 2012 06:16 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 05:26 Talin wrote:
You do know what unit types enemy has though. You can see it when you hover over his holdings.

I'm mostly asking because of choices of buildings you get in towns, where you can pick buildings that give you more archers, infantry or cavalry. Some must be better than the others in some way against mostly-infantry armies in Britain.

But yeah, I know that numbers and modifiers count the most in Paradox games but even the smallest advantage is an advantage.


better focus on upgrading your own castles. imo you waste a lot of money if you upgrade the towns and churches yourself. The only thing worth it are the monastic schools and universities in your capital province because that is where you can do the legalism research.

if you upgrade the towns and churches you get little to no return and you cant keep troops from the towns and churches for too long because the vassals will hate you.


Towns give like twice the money of any castle on highest taxes settings, they're quite worth the economic upgrades (more so than castles).

Edit: ah you meant the military upgrades, then yeah. I shouldn't read posts at 4 AM
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
February 24 2012 06:28 GMT
#225
Has anyone won a war against France or HRE yet, without them being in the middle of some sort of 9 way civil war?

Seems like with the Ai not signing peace treaties unless its losing 90-100% its impossible to break of as a French duchy to create your own thing [trying to create Burgundy for example]
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 10:54:41
February 24 2012 10:54 GMT
#226
On February 24 2012 15:28 Sub40APM wrote:
Has anyone won a war against France or HRE yet, without them being in the middle of some sort of 9 way civil war?

Seems like with the Ai not signing peace treaties unless its losing 90-100% its impossible to break of as a French duchy to create your own thing [trying to create Burgundy for example]


you have to pretty opportunistic with both of them or play the Byzantine Empire. I managed to get independant with Bohemia because the HRE was crusading in palastine
Miyoshino
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
314 Posts
February 24 2012 11:00 GMT
#227
On February 24 2012 13:11 Skilledblob wrote:
Miyoshino what you wrote sounds more like your own frustration then faults in the game. You can assume as much as you want but if the game does not work that way then it doesnt and no amount of you ranting about it is going to change it.

If you dont understand how the game works then ask or at least try the games tutorial. But coming here and ranting aimlessly is not making you look good.


If people want to play some multiplayer on the weekend please write me. So far it's just me and Euronyme but more people are always welcome.


You don't seem to realize Sengoku was basically the same game,

Don't understand how the game works? Why you make such a stupid comment? Pretty lame and you make yourself look like an idiot.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 11:35:24
February 24 2012 11:32 GMT
#228
On February 24 2012 20:00 Miyoshino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 13:11 Skilledblob wrote:
Miyoshino what you wrote sounds more like your own frustration then faults in the game. You can assume as much as you want but if the game does not work that way then it doesnt and no amount of you ranting about it is going to change it.

If you dont understand how the game works then ask or at least try the games tutorial. But coming here and ranting aimlessly is not making you look good.


If people want to play some multiplayer on the weekend please write me. So far it's just me and Euronyme but more people are always welcome.


You don't seem to realize Sengoku was basically the same game,

Don't understand how the game works? Why you make such a stupid comment? Pretty lame and you make yourself look like an idiot.


I played Sengoku and thank god it is not the same game because Sengoku sucked big time. And it was pretty clear that you have no clue about the game if you cant manage to get new provinces in the HRE or dont understand how marriages and inheritance work.

And like I said that's no problem just ask about it but instead you bitch about it.
anomalopidae
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Slovenia549 Posts
February 24 2012 11:50 GMT
#229
of course you lose your lands to brothers since you didn't change your law from gavelkind, your sons marry into other dynasties because you chose matrilineal marriage
you can gain land in HRE or france by declaring war either on fellow vassals (with no or low authority) or on your liege (medium etc authority)

on subject of towns, I usually upgrade castle villages first and then proceed with towns, since once i get up to the 200-300 economical upgrade for towns they start upgrading themselves pretty easily which comes in real handy
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Miyoshino
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
314 Posts
February 24 2012 12:30 GMT
#230
Assholes.

User was warned for this post
StatX
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada343 Posts
February 24 2012 15:33 GMT
#231
If you want to topple major empires like the HRE or France/Norway/England, your best best is through marriage and heirs.

To fully explain, you can marry one of your daughters/grandaughters to the heir of a major empire. Then when they have a son, it is your grandson and if you have the right law settings, you can make him your heir and after you die and the king/emporer of these major eimpires do to, you end up with their kingdoms and yours.

This is by no mean a quick process and holding these empires is hard afterwards because the vassals may not like your heir.

I was able to win both the Byzantine and the HRE in a single game but it took me about 100 years to do it properly through succession and assassination plots.
Can we snipe it? Yes we can!
Miyoshino
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
314 Posts
February 24 2012 16:54 GMT
#232
Well played guys, I got a warning. Hope you enjoyed that, bunch of meanies that fail to read.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 17:08:00
February 24 2012 16:55 GMT
#233
Man I am *loving* this game. There's plenty of features I dislike and some mechanics I can't stand but I'm having a blast with it overall.

My Ireland game has been absolutely nuts. I originally planned to take over Britain by the end of the game, but at this point I'm struggling just to keep my family/island intact! I love it! At first I'm struggling just to claim the title of king! About 3 generations in there's a giant Irish civil war that emptied every levy on the entire island!

Once I finally was undisputed king of Ireland, my king and his heir die within just a few months of each other. Without time to prepare for succession, the kingdom is split between 4 daughters! I take over as the eldest sister, at the young age of 9. My sisters and I wage a brutal 4-way civil war, but in the end they all meet their end at assassin's blades. I take over once again as undisputed queen. I marry the King of Norway to boot! Things are looking great.

My new son is all set to take over for mum, and we're finally economically strong enough to look at invading the British mainland. But he's getting old now, and while mobilizing to wage war on Wales, my heir rebels! Backed by the King of Scotland! Wtf! My son's levies backed by the armies of Scotland pwn my face all over the place and I'm soon besieged by my own offspring! Surrender would entail living out the rest of my days as a mere Duke, the Kingdom gone from my line forever. However... if I die of old age first... I'd take over playing as my son! With only a few weeks left on the final siege, I croak in the castle, and disaster is averted!

I take over as my rebel son, and quickly put peace to the Island. A period of relative peace and domestic building lasts for about 40 years. I have everything set up to pass things on to my son, (with fantastic stats). I croak, and he dies immediately afterward. Kingdom goes to his 5 year old son, and here I am. All my vassals despise me. CAN I HOLD THE ISLAND TOGETHER?

edit: AND I'm a dwarf! Gonna go all Tyrion Lannister on these fools!
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 25 2012 00:37 GMT
#234
On February 25 2012 01:55 Haemonculus wrote:
Man I am *loving* this game. There's plenty of features I dislike and some mechanics I can't stand but I'm having a blast with it overall.

My Ireland game has been absolutely nuts. I originally planned to take over Britain by the end of the game, but at this point I'm struggling just to keep my family/island intact! I love it! At first I'm struggling just to claim the title of king! About 3 generations in there's a giant Irish civil war that emptied every levy on the entire island!

Once I finally was undisputed king of Ireland, my king and his heir die within just a few months of each other. Without time to prepare for succession, the kingdom is split between 4 daughters! I take over as the eldest sister, at the young age of 9. My sisters and I wage a brutal 4-way civil war, but in the end they all meet their end at assassin's blades. I take over once again as undisputed queen. I marry the King of Norway to boot! Things are looking great.

My new son is all set to take over for mum, and we're finally economically strong enough to look at invading the British mainland. But he's getting old now, and while mobilizing to wage war on Wales, my heir rebels! Backed by the King of Scotland! Wtf! My son's levies backed by the armies of Scotland pwn my face all over the place and I'm soon besieged by my own offspring! Surrender would entail living out the rest of my days as a mere Duke, the Kingdom gone from my line forever. However... if I die of old age first... I'd take over playing as my son! With only a few weeks left on the final siege, I croak in the castle, and disaster is averted!

I take over as my rebel son, and quickly put peace to the Island. A period of relative peace and domestic building lasts for about 40 years. I have everything set up to pass things on to my son, (with fantastic stats). I croak, and he dies immediately afterward. Kingdom goes to his 5 year old son, and here I am. All my vassals despise me. CAN I HOLD THE ISLAND TOGETHER?

edit: AND I'm a dwarf! Gonna go all Tyrion Lannister on these fools!


haha oh wow. Nice story
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
StatX
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada343 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 01:19:35
February 25 2012 01:18 GMT
#235
On February 25 2012 01:55 Haemonculus wrote:
Man I am *loving* this game. There's plenty of features I dislike and some mechanics I can't stand but I'm having a blast with it overall.

My Ireland game has been absolutely nuts. I originally planned to take over Britain by the end of the game, but at this point I'm struggling just to keep my family/island intact! I love it! At first I'm struggling just to claim the title of king! About 3 generations in there's a giant Irish civil war that emptied every levy on the entire island!

Once I finally was undisputed king of Ireland, my king and his heir die within just a few months of each other. Without time to prepare for succession, the kingdom is split between 4 daughters! I take over as the eldest sister, at the young age of 9. My sisters and I wage a brutal 4-way civil war, but in the end they all meet their end at assassin's blades. I take over once again as undisputed queen. I marry the King of Norway to boot! Things are looking great.

My new son is all set to take over for mum, and we're finally economically strong enough to look at invading the British mainland. But he's getting old now, and while mobilizing to wage war on Wales, my heir rebels! Backed by the King of Scotland! Wtf! My son's levies backed by the armies of Scotland pwn my face all over the place and I'm soon besieged by my own offspring! Surrender would entail living out the rest of my days as a mere Duke, the Kingdom gone from my line forever. However... if I die of old age first... I'd take over playing as my son! With only a few weeks left on the final siege, I croak in the castle, and disaster is averted!

I take over as my rebel son, and quickly put peace to the Island. A period of relative peace and domestic building lasts for about 40 years. I have everything set up to pass things on to my son, (with fantastic stats). I croak, and he dies immediately afterward. Kingdom goes to his 5 year old son, and here I am. All my vassals despise me. CAN I HOLD THE ISLAND TOGETHER?

edit: AND I'm a dwarf! Gonna go all Tyrion Lannister on these fools!


One of the best ways to get rid of bad vassals who despise is to trick them. Have your spymaster uncover plots around your capital. Most of your vasssals will be plotting against you.

Once you find a plot of theirs, imprison them, most of the time, they will revolt and you can squash them by invading them again 1 by 1. If you dont accept their surrender, you will relcaim all holdings in their area and can replace them with younger, more likeable vassals (preferably kinsman).
Can we snipe it? Yes we can!
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
February 25 2012 01:35 GMT
#236
This game is so random REALLY harsh i've had my devious plans foiled sooo many times by stupid shit happening just to share one particular shit thing... I had a great inheritor lined up for my current extremely shitty ruler.... cruel arbitrary dumb constantly fucking things up on his own... he lives on forever and ever and i uncover a plot where my good inheritor wants to kill his old man, this guy was well on his way to 80 so i thought great kill this fucktard so i can have someone competent! well for once i got my wishes.... Turned out running a kinslayer as a ruler is even worse than an 80 year old vegetable :/
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9830 Posts
February 25 2012 02:27 GMT
#237
LOL

So apparantly if you play as Sunni Caliphate when the Horde comes you get 6 20k stacks of units coming out of persia and a dozen couriers. WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Not broken.
boomer hands
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 02:36:15
February 25 2012 02:32 GMT
#238
On February 25 2012 11:27 seRapH wrote:
LOL

So apparantly if you play as Sunni Caliphate when the Horde comes you get 6 20k stacks of units coming out of persia and a dozen couriers. WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Not broken.


cant you just accept them vassalizing you and you are fine? Or just swear fealty right away
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
February 25 2012 02:51 GMT
#239
On February 25 2012 10:35 nttea wrote:
This game is so random REALLY harsh i've had my devious plans foiled sooo many times by stupid shit happening just to share one particular shit thing... I had a great inheritor lined up for my current extremely shitty ruler.... cruel arbitrary dumb constantly fucking things up on his own... he lives on forever and ever and i uncover a plot where my good inheritor wants to kill his old man, this guy was well on his way to 80 so i thought great kill this fucktard so i can have someone competent! well for once i got my wishes.... Turned out running a kinslayer as a ruler is even worse than an 80 year old vegetable :/

haha yeah, but its fun.

I had a ruler who had no children for 60 years, then finally has a male child...dies...male child is 15 and almost adult enough to marry another kingdom and his uncle has him murdered...and 5 days later is himself murdered...so my king now is a 2 year old who everyone hates because of his dad...so 50 years of rebellion follow.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
February 25 2012 02:52 GMT
#240
On February 25 2012 11:27 seRapH wrote:
LOL

So apparantly if you play as Sunni Caliphate when the Horde comes you get 6 20k stacks of units coming out of persia and a dozen couriers. WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Not broken.

Ya but even with that the Golden Horde cant touch Byzantium/HRE/Shiite Caliphate.

I think that is one of the general flaws of almost all paradox games, they have a hard time because the rules of the game apply to all but what works great on counties or duchies or even smaller kingdoms is pretty broken for the larger monarchies. Just the way it is.
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