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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 02:47:45
February 22 2012 02:43 GMT
#201
On February 22 2012 10:29 Euronyme wrote:
Does anyone know what the actual conditions of becoming an emperor are? I'm king over four kingdoms in Spain, but it'd be sweet to be emperor. Is it even possible to form Spain?

Edit. Oh also, is there any point in having female courtiers?


You can only become Emperor in one of the existing Empires (Byzantine/HRE), unfortunately the game doesn't let you create your own titles. I was extremely disappointed when I realized I can't make Kingdom of The Isles.

Female courtiers with good skills are pretty good to have around for in-court marriages (genetics) and raising the kids and occasionally make good spies. Not the biggest deal in the world, but a female courtier with good stats is definitely not a throw-away material.

On February 22 2012 10:55 willz22912 wrote:
Elective seems okay depending on how many vassals you actually have. As you get bigger and bigger it seems like it'd be worse and worse because you wouldn't be able to guarantee having positive influence with ALL of your vassals to sway the vote in your favor.


Yes and no. It depends on how you arrange the hierarchy of vassals - if you're a King and cover 3-4 duchies, that still means only 3-4 elector vassals to manage (vassals of vassals and lower rank vassals don't get a vote), which still means you only really need to have 2 buddies.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9810 Posts
February 22 2012 02:46 GMT
#202
If you're the Kingdom of Navarre or if you somehow become Basque you can make female vassals~!
boomer hands
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
February 22 2012 02:51 GMT
#203
On February 22 2012 11:46 seRapH wrote:
If you're the Kingdom of Navarre or if you somehow become Basque you can make female vassals~!


Yeah, sucks that only they get to do that.

I think it's easy to mod it out though, I haven't really tried yet. I wonder if there's a site with good mods actually, the game definitely needs some community-based tweaking to fulfil its true potential.
Coramoor
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada455 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 04:21:43
February 22 2012 03:47 GMT
#204
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Omsomsoms
Profile Joined September 2011
Croatia194 Posts
February 22 2012 04:22 GMT
#205
I'm hoping at some point in the near future someone comes out with a death and taxes-esque mod for this. I've already had a blast playing it, and I can see it'll keep me for far longer than EU3 even with D&T, so I can only imagine what a really good mod/modding community could do for something like this.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
February 22 2012 04:54 GMT
#206
On February 18 2012 21:35 Euronyme wrote:
So guys what do you do when your empire gets too large for you to hold? Do you give all the extra counties to your heir and throw it down that way to ensure that it stays within your control?
I tend to give it to my sons and hope to god that they don't make their heir some count in a neighbouring country, but I have a feeling there are better options.

Also it seems to be a REALLY bad idea to let one of those plotting sons who kill off your other heirs to enherit actually become king. I thought in the lines of 'well atleast he really wants it, so I guess that's a start', but god damn, he's the most hated guy ever. 150% revolt -___-
Is it the kinslayer perk?


I try to give them to my relatives but no one will be allowed more than 2 provinces so I have many many little duchies everywhere and then my King holds the two biggest/most powerful duchies when the inevitable war to lower royal authority starts up and I have to send the next generation of my relatives to jail.

Its kind of funny, there are whole generations of the family Croven who have been born and die in the same jail cell, only to be periodically freed to breed the next generation before once again rebelling.

But I am playing England so its relatively small kingdom.
Miyoshino
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
314 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 19:03:50
February 22 2012 19:02 GMT
#207
I think this game is an improvement on Sengoku in many respects, which was already a good game.

I do feel that it seems that betrayals and working on vassals to switch sides are no longer possible in many cases. Have some difficulty actually plotting.

Another thing is that every succession my lands get divided up. Also, when my wife has a title, it seems to never unify and always pass on to our son that is not my heir. I tried changing to elective succession but looking at the top 3 inheritors, I still won't be able to unify my lands. Do I have to fight my brothers every generation or what is the deal?

Younger brothers should be automatic vassals if they inherit a title. That was how it was in Sengoku.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9810 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 19:23:42
February 22 2012 19:19 GMT
#208
Can you give a more specific/detailed explanation?

For me, I'm Caliph with control of Baghdad and Georgia. Georgia under elective and Caliphate under what seems to be primogeniture. I choose to elect my second son as King of Georgia and my eldest as Caliph. After succession my Eldest is Caliph with my second son as his vassal. This means that it is indeed possible for children to be vassals of each other.

What may be happening to you is that children are inheriting titles of equal rank (ie two kings, two dukes, etc), in which case they could not possibly be vassals of each other. One must be lower than the other, such as one king one duke, or one duke one earl. You may also want to keep track of every kingdom's succession laws, since they may be different under each one.

It seems impossible to convince a vassal to betray his liege, but what you could do is invite a claimant to your court and then press his claim through war, a valid alternative since the land and its vassals will be transferred if you win.
boomer hands
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
February 22 2012 19:20 GMT
#209
Downloaded the demo never having played any of the games before and wow, this shit is complex it seems. Never had the commitment to sitt through _everything_ in the tutorial. Are there good tooltips and such to help new players out? Since the game just seems massive in what you can do, almost feels like a simulation rather then a game.
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
February 22 2012 19:23 GMT
#210
I went ahead and hacked a file so that Absolute Cognatic succession is available to everybody, and not just the Basque. It also reduces the opinion of all males in the dynasty by 10, and increasing it for all females by the same amount (which it already did by default). Since these sorts of equal rights were almost unheard of in medieval times, I think making it piss off the men keeps it at least somewhat historically plausible.

Note that it changes your checksum so if you play MP games you'll need to keep a copy of the original file and rename them manually. It goes in the Crusader Kings II\decisions\ folder.

http://www.mediafire.com/?2jnr79pe4h56esw

disclaimer: I haven't actually done any testing other than verifying the game starts, as well as loading an unmodded save game. Use at your own peril.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
February 22 2012 19:25 GMT
#211
On February 23 2012 04:20 unkkz wrote:
Downloaded the demo never having played any of the games before and wow, this shit is complex it seems. Never had the commitment to sitt through _everything_ in the tutorial. Are there good tooltips and such to help new players out? Since the game just seems massive in what you can do, almost feels like a simulation rather then a game.


the tutorials are crap anyway. So your best bet is to just play around and ask your questions here ^^
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 22 2012 20:10 GMT
#212
On February 23 2012 04:25 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 04:20 unkkz wrote:
Downloaded the demo never having played any of the games before and wow, this shit is complex it seems. Never had the commitment to sitt through _everything_ in the tutorial. Are there good tooltips and such to help new players out? Since the game just seems massive in what you can do, almost feels like a simulation rather then a game.


the tutorials are crap anyway. So your best bet is to just play around and ask your questions here ^^


I thought the tutorials were quite good for once. I remember the bloody EU3 tutorial that fucking bugged up and didn't explain anything ^_^

They actually explained quite a bit I think. The tooltips are great and tells you most stuff you wanna know just by hovering your mose over it. I highly recommend you gather up all the patience and focus you can, and sit through the tutorials reading every bit.
There are in game tips that pop up as well, but that's where my patience broke :p
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
February 23 2012 14:35 GMT
#213
Giant bomb just did their quick look for the game, over an hour long! http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-crusader-kings-ii/17-5721/

Might be worth linking in OP for anyone on the ropes?
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
iaretehnoob
Profile Joined June 2004
Sweden741 Posts
February 23 2012 16:22 GMT
#214
[image loading]

My game suddenly turned into a huge clusterfuck. I am the King of Ireland and, since the last succession, King of Norway and Duke of random duchies from Orkney to Pisa. England fractured, I just declared independence from the HRE, which seems to be losing the civil war anyways, although I'm still kinda scared they might recover under a different emperor after the war ends. I have no idea WTF happened to Hungary and Poland, but it's quite confusing.

Time to conquer England and kick the HRE a bit while they're down.

Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
February 23 2012 17:18 GMT
#215
I have no idea how you managed to get the game this messed up :D
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
February 23 2012 19:03 GMT
#216
Does anybody have any idea how combat system works, and if it's worth focusing on certain unit types to counter the others?
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 23 2012 20:19 GMT
#217
On February 24 2012 04:03 Talin wrote:
Does anybody have any idea how combat system works, and if it's worth focusing on certain unit types to counter the others?


As you don't really know what kind of units your enemy has, I'd say no.
The guy with the most troops always win is my experience. If you really wanna focus on the combat stuff, I'd say morale and combat leaders are more important.
If you choose to go for melee infantry in the technology tab, it's probably a good idea to go for melee infantry, but that's about it.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
reneg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
February 23 2012 20:25 GMT
#218
On February 24 2012 01:22 iaretehnoob wrote:
[image loading]

My game suddenly turned into a huge clusterfuck. I am the King of Ireland and, since the last succession, King of Norway and Duke of random duchies from Orkney to Pisa. England fractured, I just declared independence from the HRE, which seems to be losing the civil war anyways, although I'm still kinda scared they might recover under a different emperor after the war ends. I have no idea WTF happened to Hungary and Poland, but it's quite confusing.

Time to conquer England and kick the HRE a bit while they're down.



Haha, that's awesome, I've just declared myself king of sicily (i'm only at ~1140), france is besieged by the HRE, internal fracturing, and the moors in the penninsula, all spanish kingdoms are gone, it's turning out to be a gigantic mess, with france having a foothold in tunisia and being pierced by germany.

Russ & Hungaria have split, and reformed several times as well 0.o'
moose...indian
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 20:26:54
February 23 2012 20:26 GMT
#219
You do know what unit types enemy has though. You can see it when you hover over his holdings.

I'm mostly asking because of choices of buildings you get in towns, where you can pick buildings that give you more archers, infantry or cavalry. Some must be better than the others in some way against mostly-infantry armies in Britain.

But yeah, I know that numbers and modifiers count the most in Paradox games but even the smallest advantage is an advantage.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 23 2012 21:01 GMT
#220
On February 24 2012 05:26 Talin wrote:
You do know what unit types enemy has though. You can see it when you hover over his holdings.

I'm mostly asking because of choices of buildings you get in towns, where you can pick buildings that give you more archers, infantry or cavalry. Some must be better than the others in some way against mostly-infantry armies in Britain.

But yeah, I know that numbers and modifiers count the most in Paradox games but even the smallest advantage is an advantage.


I was mostly pointing to the fact that you rarely have a static enemy. Depending on what you play ofcourse.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
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