EPTOn November 30 2012 15:02 myrmidon2537 wrote:
If this is Mvc2, venom is EZ
in GG just throw balls and shit *no clue* =S
If this is Mvc2, venom is EZ
in GG just throw balls and shit *no clue* =S
GG Venom :D
Any TL'ers going to NEC this weekend?
Fighting Games Thread 2012 - Page 19
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
GG Venom :D Any TL'ers going to NEC this weekend? | ||
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Trumpet
United States1936 Posts
On November 30 2012 17:50 scintilliaSD wrote: DoA 5, AE and SFxT confirmed for next IPL season. But when's Marvel?  Won't be at NEC but a friend of mine is going, should be hype to watch. | ||
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Trumpet
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O-ops
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I think my head exploded. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:22 Trumpet wrote: NEC has been nuts. P4 tourney is crazy, alex valle blowin it up on stream in marvel, omgitzandre vs unknown ft7 in some of the worst but hypest marvel, and to top it all off: Venue shook a lil when Valle won. That's dat CaliPower. Left after that match due to starvation/dehydration. Heard they decided to show Unknown/OmgItzAndre runback afterward, but I could watch dropped combos later. Great tournament thus far. Played Romance in one and a half matches in KOF13 b4 getting kicked off for KOF teams to start. Bala's there too for 13. Expect a Bala,Romance,Ryry placing for 13 singles right there. It's a been a craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy tournament so far. Also extremely happy for the new venue change. PPS. That gif is amazing | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
edit: Lol I love how they have both fanatiq and megamansteve commentating at the same time. Ah marvel 2 | ||
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myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
reo fell asleep during TTT2 and AE but woke up in time for Marlin vs GOA (sue me, NEC starts at 1am here)  Goa had a good trish. respect. | ||
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ZoW
United States3983 Posts
go watch it | ||
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Looms
United States4624 Posts
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
Can any1 help me out with the Venom oki setup at 0:57? Looks like a simple HS Curve into j.HS airdash but when I jump he's always short of hitting the ball with j.HS. Not exactly sure what I'm doing wrong here. Thanks. | ||
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Goldfish
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Anyway, I just thought of something. I remember reading the gamespot review on playstation all stars about its mechanics (being too complicated) and comparing Super Smash Bros to a spammy game... Also I remember (randomly) reading people stating Super Smash is not a real fighting game. I have a good comparison / analogy! Super Smash Bros Melee is like Quake (I pick Melee because it's the "hardcore!111" "faster paced" with "faster fall speed" out of the three). Yes, I compared Super Smash with an FPS! The reason why is it really fits. In Quake (or any FPS), using your weapons is easy (click on your mouse) but obviously there are other things that make the game hard to play (with high skill ceiling). The skill is accuracy and other stuff (like doing rocket jumps), for example. Doing special moves in Super Smash (like using weapons in CS 1.6, Quake, Team Fortress, etc ) is easy. However, what's important is accuracy and precision timing. For example, getting a hit on Fox's up air (up attack while in the air) is really hard because the hitbox has to be precise, fall speed is fast, and there is a delay on when Fox actually performs his up kick. Not only that, players can air dodge to a certain direction (in melee, in Brawl it's just a semi invulnerability period while staying in place). That's similar to Quake's gameplay (fast pace, requires accuracy and precision timing on attacks, etc). Things like Wave Dashing (kind of like bunny hopping), L Canceling, etc also add to Melee's complexity. Yes doing attacks is easy in Super Smash (compared to Street Fighter) because you just hold a direction button and press the special or smash button but again, same with how using weapons in FPS works (you click on your mouse) but the hard stuff is pulling things off successfully with accuracy and precision (rocket jumps into rocket into enemy for example). It's similar with Super Smash Bros - Like I said with Fox's up air, it's hard to land (in melee especially with the fast fall speed and how fast everything moves) even though performing the attack itself isn't hard (just jump and hold up). Another example is Ness' up special - It shoots a ball of thunder that moves at a certain speed and can move at a certain angle. It's hard to control the ball of thunder but it's his main method of recovery. To recover with Ness' up special, he needs to hit himself with his thunder ball (basically, you control the turning of thunderball and if you can hit yourself with it, you'll be launched into a certain direction depending on the angle). It's really tricky and hard to use Ness' up special properly due to its mechanics (even though performing the attack itself is easy). So overall, I think a good way of putting it is Super Smash Bros is a 2D Quake-like game where performing specials or attacks are easy but what matters is accuracy, precise timing, and quick reflexes. Can it be considered a fighting game? Well, not the usual type like Street Fighter or Tekken but it has the same complexity IMO, just a different type (one more similar to Quake gameplay, which is weird since Quake is an FPS but it fits well IMO). Anyway, the reason I mentioned Playstation All Stars is because I'm curious on why they decided to make their own type of battle system (I guess one reason could be aesthetics, a game where the goal is to knock them off a platform is kind of weird to watch in a way) instead of just copying Super Smash. Though it does follow the formula of being a non-traditional fighting game (in PS All Stars, you KO people by building up a special meter, then performing it, there aren't any health bars in the traditional sense) but would easy to just copy Super Smash (assuming they could). Are there any games that copy super smash in exact gameplay (knocking them off of a platform)? A lot of Melee players disliked the direction Brawl went (basically slowing down the game and making the game a lot more campy and defensive compared to Melee). Lots of games copy Mario Kart almost to the exact core, so I'm surprised few games have tried to copy Super Smash Bros (fighting game meets Quake). Anyway a bit off topic but since this sounds like a generic fighting game thread, I just wanted to post my thoughts on it and defend Super Smash (and its type of "easy to perform moves" gameplay). | ||
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Soulstice
United States288 Posts
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Trumpet
United States1936 Posts
SSF4 AE 2012 (2013 patch if it happens) UMvC3 TTT2 SFxT v.2013 MK9 KoF13 P4A Players Choice (voting via most total donation to breast cancer research charity) Thank Breesus KoF made it back. Time for me to book my trip | ||
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TGS.FuzzyGuard
United States14 Posts
On December 18 2012 04:08 sung_moon wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgM6R0XUWLc Can any1 help me out with the Venom oki setup at 0:57? Looks like a simple HS Curve into j.HS airdash but when I jump he's always short of hitting the ball with j.HS. Not exactly sure what I'm doing wrong here. Thanks. N.O is buffering a dash before he jumps to give him enough momentum for the j.HS to hit the ball. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
Bee is gonna take marvel the fuck over, dude is too good. but i beat him in a sf set for the first time ever (and we been playing together for a couple years now) the other day so HOLD DAT SHIT BEE lolol | ||
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Lucumo
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On January 09 2013 12:52 Trumpet wrote: Evo 2013 Lineup SSF4 AE 2012 (2013 patch if it happens) UMvC3 TTT2 SFxT v.2013 MK9 KoF13 P4A Players Choice (voting via most total donation to breast cancer research charity) Thank Breesus KoF made it back. Time for me to book my trip Yay SSF4 AE 2012 and KoF13. TTT2 I don't know much about and the other games...urgh. Why still MK9? Need GG, SSBM, VF5, SC5 and maybe Melty Blood, Third Strike or Garou ;-) | ||
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