EPTOKC vs Portland was better, the ending was just as fun, and it was just better basketball than the game of missed free throws.
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
OKC vs Portland was better, the ending was just as fun, and it was just better basketball than the game of missed free throws. | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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VENDIZ
1575 Posts
On January 04 2012 13:02 Holcan wrote: I don't see why you'd be upset, the game was kind of bad. Teague and Horford throw the game in the last 2 minutes after managing a lead the entire game. OKC vs Portland was better, the ending was just as fun, and it was just better basketball than the game of missed free throws. I think 3 out of 4 of the guys posting at the moment are Bulls fans, so that's why we're hyped up! Also, I wouldn't put that much on Horford & Teague, but rather Joe Johnson, who shot 3-17.. | ||
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manicsquare
176 Posts
On January 04 2012 12:10 manicsquare wrote: Grizzlies finally figuring out to play but might just be the kings not being that good. Memphis is a lot better than you might think. Injuries hit them hard to start the season and they won't ever be at 100% but they are one of the best teams in the league. [/QUOTE] Yeah I think their great but with them being my favorite team I usually try to be really negative with them so as to no disappoint myself. Just wondering where would you put them in top teams? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Miami Chicago OKC are my real deal top 3 with the others looking like this in some order: Nuggets Blazers Pacers Sixers Hawks Grizzlies Magic San Antonio, Clippers, Boston aren't at full strength or just got back to it so I can't make a good prediction on them. But in the Spurs case with Manu gone they are def not a top 10 team. | ||
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VENDIZ
1575 Posts
On January 04 2012 13:17 Ace wrote: I'd tentatively put them in the top 10. Too much craziness going on with some of the teams I thought would be better (Dallas, Lakers) and 2 teams I'm somewhat sure about and think are top 10 (Pacers, Sixers). Miami Chicago OKC are my real deal top 3 with the others looking like this in some order: Nuggets Blazers Pacers Sixers Hawks Grizzlies Magic San Antonio, Clippers, Boston aren't at full strength or just got back to it so I can't make a good prediction on them. But in the Spurs case with Manu gone they are def not a top 10 team. How long do you think Ryan Anderson will be able to put up huge numbers for the Magic? When he slows down I think Orlando will too! Pacers look great though, I would not like to play them in the first round of the playoffs again :p | ||
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Insanest
United States21 Posts
10 man league just took wade for aldridge and conley (after both their stellar performances today and wade's subpar week) and picking up dejuan blair in the process. Meanwhile if he,dorrell wright (wtf), or samuel dalembert doesn't pan out I have baron davis on my ir. Any thoughts? | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On January 04 2012 13:36 Insanest wrote: So this is for fantasy basketball and its the only relevant place i could find 10 man league just took wade for aldridge and conley (after both their stellar performances today and wade's subpar week) and picking up dejuan blair in the process. Meanwhile if he,dorrell wright (wtf), or samuel dalembert doesn't pan out I have baron davis on my ir. Any thoughts? Dorrell Wright is a great player, Wade for Aldridge will be good if Aldridge doesn't improve his FT shooting, but Conley was a great player probably not worth giving up. Baron Davis is a master unknown, he could come back and play 25+ and contribute, or he could get spread minutes amongst Shumpert, Douglas and Bibby, killing his value. Samuel Dalembert, I have no fucking clue on. On January 04 2012 13:08 VENDIZ wrote: I think 3 out of 4 of the guys posting at the moment are Bulls fans, so that's why we're hyped up! Also, I wouldn't put that much on Horford & Teague, but rather Joe Johnson, who shot 3-17.. Yea, I understand you're all fans, but the game was still crap :x. You cant blame Joe for 3-17 shooting when he is playing against one of the best wing defenders in the game, especially when Teague missed two free throws in a row to push the lead to 3, the first one going WAY to short, and then Horford missing another important FT to take the lead and force an uneven score (something which benefits the hawks on the road.) On January 04 2012 13:17 Ace wrote: I'd tentatively put them in the top 10. Too much craziness going on with some of the teams I thought would be better (Dallas, Lakers) and 2 teams I'm somewhat sure about and think are top 10 (Pacers, Sixers). Miami Chicago OKC are my real deal top 3 with the others looking like this in some order: Nuggets Blazers Pacers Sixers Hawks Grizzlies Magic San Antonio, Clippers, Boston aren't at full strength or just got back to it so I can't make a good prediction on them. But in the Spurs case with Manu gone they are def not a top 10 team. How can you have an opinion on Orlando, they have only played trash teams so far, except OKC which they lost pretty handily to. Same with Philly, they've played one decent team. Certainly Dallas and the Lakers must look like a better team than both these teams, both of which have played hard opponents, and beat them. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On January 04 2012 13:26 VENDIZ wrote: How long do you think Ryan Anderson will be able to put up huge numbers for the Magic? When he slows down I think Orlando will too! Pacers look great though, I would not like to play them in the first round of the playoffs again :p It's all about Hedo though. Ryan Anderson won't be hot all year but if Hedo starts sucking again, Orlando is finished (again). Dwight Howard gets a lot of credit but one of Orlando's major strengths was their perimeter defense over the years. Not sure who is going to anchor it outside of JJ Redick but they are in for a world of hurt in the playoffs. On January 04 2012 13:36 Insanest wrote: So this is for fantasy basketball and its the only relevant place i could find 10 man league just took wade for aldridge and conley (after both their stellar performances today and wade's subpar week) and picking up dejuan blair in the process. Meanwhile if he,dorrell wright (wtf), or samuel dalembert doesn't pan out I have baron davis on my ir. Any thoughts? Depends on the league settings. If you're in a weekly head to head league using POINTS and counts double-doubles for extra then you should probably never trade 2 sure fire high minute stat huggers like Aldridge and Conley (somewhat) for anyone, even Wade because Aldridge can go off for very big games himself. Picking up Blair does make the trade look much better though. If you're in any other kind of league then generally that trade is an absolute good haul. The only thing Wade doesn't do in Fantasy terms well is hit 3s. Everything else he's top of the league in, and most importantly for Roto Wade always goes top 5 for 3 main reasons: FG%,steals and Shot blocking from the guard spot. Since 3s are pretty easy to find and elite FG% and blocks are scarce you can go nuts at will with Wade. | ||
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VENDIZ
1575 Posts
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Insanest
United States21 Posts
well i thought that wade would return to 24 point form and aldridge would stick around 21 points and 8 rebounds at most, and conley around 14/3/8. i figured i would lose rebounds the most, but for steals, assists and points baron davis could come back and return that if my pickup doesnt return well. The big thing definitely was the flexibility of a roster spot to pick up people with (7 adds a week) so that may have influenced my decision as i figured i could put more stats per day. if the league is head to head with fg, ft, 3's made, re's, assists, steals, blocks, points, does the trade seem better or worse? My team is: jameer, ray allen, melo, cp3, stephen jackson, aldridge, ibaka, conley, dorrell, humphries, spencer hawes, david lee (baron davis on the ir) does the wade trade hurt my team? Thanks for the help guys. P.S dorrell is sucking so much atm. i thought josh smith was the second worst fantasy bust (in relation to draft rank) next to him but he recently had a decent game. dorrell is all alone out there now. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On January 04 2012 14:45 Insanest wrote: The trade is still out there, but the other person had to think about it. well i thought that wade would return to 24 point form and aldridge would stick around 21 points and 8 rebounds at most, and conley around 14/3/8. i figured i would lose rebounds the most, but for steals, assists and points baron davis could come back and return that if my pickup doesnt return well. The big thing definitely was the flexibility of a roster spot to pick up people with (7 adds a week) so that may have influenced my decision as i figured i could put more stats per day. if the league is head to head with fg, ft, 3's made, re's, assists, steals, blocks, points, does the trade seem better or worse? My team is: jameer, ray allen, melo, cp3, stephen jackson, aldridge, ibaka, conley, dorrell, humphries, spencer hawes, david lee (baron davis on the ir) does the wade trade hurt my team? Thanks for the help guys. P.S dorrell is sucking so much atm. i thought josh smith was the second worst fantasy bust (in relation to draft rank) next to him but he recently had a decent game. dorrell is all alone out there now. Head to Head with stats is somewhat like Roto, so this trade is good. You'll probably be strong in every category. Hell, that's a pretty dominant lineup. With Wade's shotblocking to go along with Ibaka you probably can sweep a lot of teams unless they have some ultra powerful lineups. You are sitting at least 2 deep top tier performers in every category except assists: Points: Wade, Melo FG%: Wade, Allen (in terms of high FGA players) FT%: Melo, Allen, Wade (depends on other teams but Wade at 75% isn't elite but average) Rebounds: Humprhies is dominant, then Hawes is looking like an animal. Assists: Chris Paul. The main saving grace here for you is that Wade, David Lee, and Spencer Hawes all pile up assists too. Steals: Between Chris Paul and Wade alone you'll probably win or at least compete in steals every matchup. Of course, no one else on your team piles up high steals so this might be your only "weakness". Blocks: Between Wade and Ibaka it's going to be damn near impossible to lose unless someone has Bogut, Howard, McGee, Dalembert and other shot blockers. Wade won't continue his insane BPG but he is pretty much guaranteed to get you 1 block every night and Ibaka is of course a monster here. Doesn't hurt that Hawes is ok here. As an aside John Wall is becoming a shot blocking menace himself so check out the guy who has him to see what else he's sporting. 3s: Ray Allen and Dorell Wright will win this by themselves. 2 guys that shoot A LOT of 3s and hit a ton. Having Jameer, Melo and CP3 is of course great too. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 04 2012 14:45 Ace wrote: Yea as good and underrated as Luol Deng is 3 for 17 is pretty bad - and not even surprising since this is Joe Johnson who isn't a highly efficient scorer. He's shot 50% or better only once so far this year. Deng is a great defender, but like I said after the Memphis game, no one is good enough to force you to shoot that poorly. Its called shot selection, Joe Johnson has never heard of it. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
Anyways, I'm not disagreeing that Joe didn't play well, but blaming the loss on him, when both teams shot 35 and 33 percent overall. Not to mention his last few possessions were against lock down Chicago 4th quarter defense, you're blaming him for learning a new clutch situation offense, when Atlanta just lost Jamal Crawford their key clutch ball handler. I still bet they practice FT more than 4th quarter plays at todays practice. :p | ||
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VENDIZ
1575 Posts
On January 05 2012 02:24 Holcan wrote: 14-25 56.0% That is much, much worse. How is that even possible without Deandre Jordan on the court. Anyways, I'm not disagreeing that Joe didn't play well, but blaming the loss on him, when both teams shot 35 and 33 percent overall. Not to mention his last few possessions were against lock down Chicago 4th quarter defense, you're blaming him for learning a new clutch situation offense, when Atlanta just lost Jamal Crawford their key clutch ball handler. I still bet they practice FT more than 4th quarter plays at todays practice. :p Doesn't Tristan Thomas avg. 42% from the line? ;D Just as much as you think it's unfair to blame Johnson for the loss, same goes for me and Horford & Teague, as they put up a MUCH better (atleast Horford did) performance throughout the game. You don't blame the guys who keep you ahead/in the game for three and a half quarters :\ | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On January 04 2012 14:45 Insanest wrote: The trade is still out there, but the other person had to think about it. well i thought that wade would return to 24 point form and aldridge would stick around 21 points and 8 rebounds at most, and conley around 14/3/8. i figured i would lose rebounds the most, but for steals, assists and points baron davis could come back and return that if my pickup doesnt return well. The big thing definitely was the flexibility of a roster spot to pick up people with (7 adds a week) so that may have influenced my decision as i figured i could put more stats per day. if the league is head to head with fg, ft, 3's made, re's, assists, steals, blocks, points, does the trade seem better or worse? My team is: jameer, ray allen, melo, cp3, stephen jackson, aldridge, ibaka, conley, dorrell, humphries, spencer hawes, david lee (baron davis on the ir) does the wade trade hurt my team? Thanks for the help guys. P.S dorrell is sucking so much atm. i thought josh smith was the second worst fantasy bust (in relation to draft rank) next to him but he recently had a decent game. dorrell is all alone out there now. wtf kind of league is this if you can have rayray, melo, cp3, and wade on your team ?! | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
This game was lost by a shitty Atlanta bench, and a terrible Atlanta free throw outing, or on the opposite side, by a great Chicago bench, and a good free throw outing. It was exciting because it was close, not because it was good, in my opinion. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On January 05 2012 02:24 Holcan wrote: 14-25 56.0% That is much, much worse. How is that even possible without Deandre Jordan on the court. Anyways, I'm not disagreeing that Joe didn't play well, but blaming the loss on him, when both teams shot 35 and 33 percent overall. Not to mention his last few possessions were against lock down Chicago 4th quarter defense, you're blaming him for learning a new clutch situation offense, when Atlanta just lost Jamal Crawford their key clutch ball handler. I still bet they practice FT more than 4th quarter plays at todays practice. :p sqrt(npq) = sqrt(17*1/3*2/3) < 2 17*1/3=5.7 It's only a little more than 1 standard deviation away. It happens. | ||
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VENDIZ
1575 Posts
And WHY doesn't Rubio start for the Wolves?! He puts up better numbers than Ridnour in every section, and the entire team seem to play a lot better with him on the floor! | ||
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LonelyCat
United Kingdom130 Posts
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