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Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
March 21 2012 17:53 GMT
#5261
On March 22 2012 00:45 lazyfeet wrote:
Stephon Marbury is doing really well in china. He lead the team to game one victory in the CBA final.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/bryan_armen_graham/03/21/stephon-marbury-china/


I assumed everyone stopped caring about him. He's been in China for ages now
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
March 21 2012 18:15 GMT
#5262
seriously, great read right there.

Only thing I worry for is the volatility of Chinese fans against a foreigner - alot of asians all over the world still hold massively racist and/or harshly critical sentiments and if Marbury slips even a little in stats or PR... I wouldn't be surprised if the fans did a complete 180 on him
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 19:40:53
March 21 2012 19:24 GMT
#5263
I am with you Holcan. I am not on their bandwagon at all, just think this is an okay pickup for them. Their offense is hard to watch sometimes..

Speaking of offenses, <laker fan voice: ON> I can't believe Lakers lost to Rockets last night. I mean a lot of teams are running some simple offenses it seems, but HOU prob runs the same play like 80% of the time. Give ball to guard, set a high screen, find the open shooter...yet, Lakeshow couldn't beat them, dissapointing...<laker fan voice: OFF>

edit: and GREAT read indeed on Starbury.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 21 2012 20:18 GMT
#5264
If Fish helps OKC win the championship, it will be because he can hit wide open shots (there are a ton available for OKC), not because he is 100 years old.
Freeeeeeedom
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 21:37:30
March 21 2012 21:36 GMT
#5265
age =/= experience.
championship veteran experience > veteran experience.
A veteran who can communicate/has leadership qualities > veteran who can't communicate or teach.
Fisher is all of these.

If Fish hits open shots it will be a huge plus and prob more than OKC expected. But OKC didn't get Fish b/c of his shooting, they got him b/c of the intangibles he brings to a young, on-the-verge team. Even if they don't win a ship this year, the reason teams bring in vets is b/c they are able to (hopefully) give career-long lessons/tips, and not just the current season.

For the last 15 years, Fish has been facing Western Conference teams and seen the transformation of offenses during that time. Against teams like the Spurs, Mavs, and Lakers (not Sloan and Jazz anymore), that could be pretty helpful come playoff time...

Or it could not. But it's still a good pickup worth the risk. Plus he might find his stroke in OKC like you said (which would make me T.T)
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 21 2012 21:47 GMT
#5266
experience will be more mental attitude if anything. not expecting anything big from fisher himself
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
March 21 2012 22:14 GMT
#5267
hear, hear
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 21 2012 22:15 GMT
#5268
On March 22 2012 06:36 MassHysteria wrote:
age =/= experience.
championship veteran experience > veteran experience.
A veteran who can communicate/has leadership qualities > veteran who can't communicate or teach.
Fisher is all of these.

If Fish hits open shots it will be a huge plus and prob more than OKC expected. But OKC didn't get Fish b/c of his shooting, they got him b/c of the intangibles he brings to a young, on-the-verge team. Even if they don't win a ship this year, the reason teams bring in vets is b/c they are able to (hopefully) give career-long lessons/tips, and not just the current season.

For the last 15 years, Fish has been facing Western Conference teams and seen the transformation of offenses during that time. Against teams like the Spurs, Mavs, and Lakers (not Sloan and Jazz anymore), that could be pretty helpful come playoff time...

Or it could not. But it's still a good pickup worth the risk. Plus he might find his stroke in OKC like you said (which would make me T.T)


Or, you know, he could just be straight up better than Royal Ivey and Reggie Jackson.
Freeeeeeedom
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
March 21 2012 22:17 GMT
#5269
Does that take away from everything else? There are other players they could sign that would be better than those two.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 21 2012 22:19 GMT
#5270
On March 22 2012 07:17 MassHysteria wrote:
Does that take away from everything else? There are other players they could sign that would be better than those two.


Better than Fish? Its not like there are many C.J. Watsons or John Lucas IIIs on the open market at this point.
Freeeeeeedom
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 23:23:04
March 21 2012 22:37 GMT
#5271
On March 22 2012 07:19 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 07:17 MassHysteria wrote:
Does that take away from everything else? There are other players they could sign that would be better than those two.


Better than Fish? Its not like there are many C.J. Watsons or John Lucas IIIs on the open market at this point.

Why the Heat signing Turiaf again? Will he be the reason they win the championship this season? (And I love Ronny.)

OKC could have signed Gilbert...He could hit open shots like you said, and arguably better than Fish. My point is Fish brings more to the table than just possibly hitting shots, that's all I meant.

edit: clarity.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 22:53:36
March 21 2012 22:50 GMT
#5272
ronnie is just a way to prevent/make up for injuries, and gilbert is a ball handler, why do the heat need another ball handler? they have 3.5 already.

ronnie brings energy, and more size up front, surprised they went for him with diaw just going on the market though, must really value his size, or he is probably just in better shape, not that either are the posterchild of body fat.


or diaw is just commited to the spurs
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
scaban84
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1080 Posts
March 21 2012 23:10 GMT
#5273
Lol, I have been waiting to see those ridiculous raptor jerseys!
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." — Friedrich von Hayek
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
March 21 2012 23:13 GMT
#5274
Oh god, what are Toronto wearing!??
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
March 21 2012 23:20 GMT
#5275
Wtf philly?
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
March 21 2012 23:25 GMT
#5276
@holcan: I didn't mean the Heat i meant OKC, and I wasn't being serious I was just trying to make a point with clutz I edited it tho bc it really was unclear.

Not a good start for philly :/
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 23:37:47
March 21 2012 23:32 GMT
#5277
Philly goes 0-15, takes 8 minutes to get a FG. Overpassing and derping in the paint with violations.

edit: Already triple 3 second-violations
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Riskr
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany403 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 23:33:32
March 21 2012 23:32 GMT
#5278
Cant wait 4 Mavs vs LaL!
Hope Marion is playing 2nite!
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/39089/killer-lineup-dirk-and-the-d
Ain´t no mind to the battles you´ve won!
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1070 Posts
March 22 2012 00:09 GMT
#5279
Fisher to OKC. He could teach Westbrook a thing or two, i just wonder if Westbrook is willing/able to learn.
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
March 22 2012 00:22 GMT
#5280
This game vs. the Raptors reminds me of their game last year, Bulls came in with a good run and can't make anything go :\ Hopefully they can shake it off as the 3rd quarter goes along
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
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