Hey, so I've been trying to pick this game up and have been mostly practicing comboes to begin with. My team is Zero/Dante/Vergil with Ryuenjin, Jam Session and Rapid Slash.

I live right next to the best player in Finland and some other high-level players and I'll be able to play against them every Sunday so I'd like to be able to beat them. Of course that'll take forever because they've been playing since Vanilla but I don't think they seem that incredible.

I'm kind of at a loss about what my general purpose should be in the neutral game(can you call it footsies), especially with Zero because he's my point and most important character. Like... What should my goals be? Pokes? How do I go about scoring hits, opening my opponents up? When do I go into the air? And so and so on... This game's so different from Street Fighter, I really have no idea what I'm supposed to be doing.

I guess that in general I'd try to poke c.M from max range and also spam my projectiles if I can beat them in a projectile war... I guess I could also use lightning canceled into Buster or something? Ehh I'm just really confused and don't at all know what sort of a mindset I'm supposed to have while playing. I guess I should just use safe moves from max range or something like that >_< I also have no idea when to use assists outside of comboes... Sighity sigh.

Oh and http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE1AC8AA7D81542B9 here's some videos of the players I'll be playing against, Jufo's generally considered the best player in Finland so that'd be the most important one I guess. His team is Hulk / Deadpool / Sentinel so if I'm thinking correctly my gameplay should be to spam projectiles and also to overwhelm him with mixups ... If I had any clue how I'm supposed to go about mixups <_< Hulk ToDs all my characters meter-positively so I really can't do stupid stuff.

Kind of a terrible post this is because it's not even clear what I'm asking -.- I guess it's mostly about, I know how to do comboes pretty well and I know what to do after landing hits so I wonder what my general gameplan should be regarding actually landing the hits. Is it fine to just go super aggressive or am I supposed to play footsies? After landing hits my gameplan's basically: With Zero, corner carry into lightning loops, kills everything. With Dante(and assuming Zero's dead) it's more complicated but it's generally about landing a hit, doing a combo, DHC into Vergil, Sword loop until death. With Vergil solo it's either a XFactor lvl 3 6-7 second kill(Still working on the fastest possible way to kill with XFactor, don't have much time to spare so that it doesn't run out) or if I don't have Xfactor, sword loops into kill... So very simple ideas after I actually land some hits...

I'd really appreciate it if anyone knew some very basic ways of landing hits with those 3 characters, maybe about when to use the assists as well. I guess I can't expect to do super well playing against humans for the first people with my first opponents being some of the best in the country but at least I'd like to have some clear idea of what I'm supposed to do instead of just having no clue about what keeps on going wrong.

Trumpet

United States1935 Posts

November 19 2012 03:31 GMT

#424

As far as Im aware, zero has a bit of trouble vs hulk, but you should go watch videos of Flux from big 2 for a straightforward demonstration of how to play zmc (especially vs fooblat, the ny hulk player).

You're not really gonna be going for ground footsies with zero. More like zipping around like a fool with busters / lightning and using your heavy buttons to destroy everyone else's buttons up close.

Not the cleanest match ever but:

It's worth warning you that team takes a fair amount of execution practice. Something like vergil wesker strider would probably be easier starting out, but I'm kinda assuming you already knew that

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Shiragaku

Hong Kong4308 Posts

November 19 2012 06:42 GMT

#425

I heard people using X-23 with a Trish Assist. I could go on Shoryuken, but I want to avoid a possible shitstorm, and I have been trying to pull off the combination with minimal progress...
Does anyone know how this out fit in?

Mitsuwa

United States793 Posts

November 20 2012 03:40 GMT

#426

Nemo's Team just keeps getting even more amazing. Killing Thor off of a throw with 2 meters and building more than 3 and a half back? Wow.

Trumpet

United States1935 Posts

November 20 2012 10:22 GMT

#427

Man that 2nd combo is disgusting. How would you ever be playing the team in that order though? Don't you always keep spencer 2nd?

Mitsuwa

United States793 Posts

November 20 2012 12:27 GMT

#428

Ya that's the problem. You'd probably have to of had spencer in at some point and then have gotten strange snapped in. It's not out of the realm of possibility though. Especially when people want to kill that lvl 3 strange.

I wonder if it still works if you have strange, spencer, nova and just the team hyper will take 3 bars. I would think that it would, unless bionic arm hits them out of the nova beam - but you would think the strange hyper would do that already.

Chriscras

Korea (South)2812 Posts

November 20 2012 12:56 GMT

#429

How come I never see MvC3 tournaments right now?