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The NA-based TL WoW guild has been set: it is being formed on Cenarius as alliance. Talk to farvacola if you want more info! Add yourself to the player list! Use this thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434775 for Warlord of Draenor discussion please! | ||
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MiyaviTeddy
Canada697 Posts
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TheExile19
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MiyaviTeddy
Canada697 Posts
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TheExile19
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nimbim
Germany983 Posts
Overall you can play any class/spec as long as you know how to move and keep up your rotation. http://www.worldoflogs.com/rankings/players/Throne_of_Thunder/Iron_Qon/25H/Assassination_Rogue/ This fight for example hasn't too much movement for melees and no gimmicks to push your dps. Feel free to compare with other dps specs. | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
On August 12 2013 02:56 cLutZ wrote: While I will say I take a slightly elitist view, I liked tbc for more than exclusion. The fact that 1 guild got like 20 straight world firsts was awesome. That is the kinda thing that makes feel like raiding is a true skill. When everyone beat the lich king within 1or2 resets of everyone else, its less epic. compared to nowadays, hardcore classic and tbc raiding was a piece of cake. you spent more time farming mats than actually raiding. Nowadays the top guilds play like 20 hours per day, stack classes for each boss and rotate players until the content is clear. Now that is hardcore raiding. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On August 13 2013 09:52 Warri wrote: compared to nowadays, hardcore classic and tbc raiding was a piece of cake. you spent more time farming mats than actually raiding. Nowadays the top guilds play like 20 hours per day, stack classes for each boss and rotate players until the content is clear. Now that is hardcore raiding. Everyone tries to say that, but I dont think its true. Part of doing a raid is being undergeared. | ||
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DCRed
Finland435 Posts
On August 13 2013 11:58 cLutZ wrote: Everyone tries to say that, but I dont think its true. Part of doing a raid is being undergeared. Top guilds do the raids undergeared. Sure we've bis gear from last content but heroic mode unlocks after first week and in that one week of clearing the raid in normal for first time, chances are you might not get any loot(yes I know Method and the very top spoon feed the gear to the mains by clearing it with alts). In the next few weeks people are usually at the end bosses already. Tuning of the bosses has varied so that also plays a role of course, some you could've in blues probably and some which really require all the extra dps you can get(look at the amount of HC Lei Shen kills after people started getting their LGMs). | ||
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DCRed
Finland435 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
On August 13 2013 22:31 DCRed wrote: Top guilds do the raids undergeared. Sure we've bis gear from last content but heroic mode unlocks after first week and in that one week of clearing the raid in normal for first time, chances are you might not get any loot(yes I know Method and the very top spoon feed the gear to the mains by clearing it with alts). In the next few weeks people are usually at the end bosses already. Tuning of the bosses has varied so that also plays a role of course, some you could've in blues probably and some which really require all the extra dps you can get(look at the amount of HC Lei Shen kills after people started getting their LGMs). Not so sure, TOT kind of took it backwards. Took the top guilds about what over 6 weeks to kill 13/13HC? It took Method to get world first on Lei Shen like 4 weeks. So i think that was like the longest ever. I was really into watching Sco (GM of method) stream back then as well, so it was pretty interesting. For example took Method until 1st week to clear it 12/12 normal which was week 6th-13th. It took them a further 13 days after heoric mode was released to clear 12/13 HC which was 2 raid resets. Then it took them another 2 raid resets to kill Ra Den HC. So all in all it took over a month (4/5 raid resets) for a full clear of a Raid. That is longest in a long time in my knowledge XD | ||
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DCRed
Finland435 Posts
Some of the old bosses took a long while before they were killed but most of the time they were bugged/totally unbalanced and were dropped really fast after some changes so they can't be really compared. The most recent one which lasted for a while was Ragnaros but can't remember exactly how long it took now. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
When i was raiding i did too enjoy MOP raids, but i stopped midway through TOT due to getting behind and losing passion for PVE and rediscovering PvP Still like to keep up to date with Method xD | ||
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Enox
Germany1667 Posts
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Bluelightz
Indonesia2463 Posts
) and there's some post on the Bnet forums about it >.> | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On August 13 2013 06:46 MiyaviTeddy wrote: Thats a little disheartening. I was planing to maybe come back and play a bit. What about rogues? From an ex 2200-2500 3v3 Mage/Lock/Rogue/Shaman, I'll say this: play freakin' Smite. I've fallen in love with this game in the recent weeks... so much more fun than WoW arena, which has fallen off since BC/WotLK. The entry barriers to wow arena are just far too high... if your class gets changed due to some dragonslayers crying about 3% too much damage on an ability, OOPS, guess you wasted 5 months gearing. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
On August 14 2013 00:03 Bluelightz wrote: Speaking of Method, many alliance guilds have left for horde (unfortunately ) and there's some post on the Bnet forums about it >.>Because Horde > Alliance silly  | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On August 13 2013 22:42 Pandemona wrote: Not so sure, TOT kind of took it backwards. Took the top guilds about what over 6 weeks to kill 13/13HC? It took Method to get world first on Lei Shen like 4 weeks. So i think that was like the longest ever. I was really into watching Sco (GM of method) stream back then as well, so it was pretty interesting. For example took Method until 1st week to clear it 12/12 normal which was week 6th-13th. It took them a further 13 days after heoric mode was released to clear 12/13 HC which was 2 raid resets. Then it took them another 2 raid resets to kill Ra Den HC. So all in all it took over a month (4/5 raid resets) for a full clear of a Raid. That is longest in a long time in my knowledge XD Lady vashj and kael thas sunstrider would like a word. Given that the heroic + normal plan is clearly in place, it makes sense that even with a full normal clear, one of the first 4 or 5 heroic bosses should be an insurmountable gear check. The other thingmakes raids easier is that every class has similar skills, so it is kind of nonsensical to do an illidari counsel. You used to have to really think about raid comps. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51449 Posts
 Patch 5.4 will be released in two weeks! 27th/28th August (For Na and Eu respectfully) | ||
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Amaril
Germany105 Posts
On August 11 2013 22:13 Silentenigma wrote: "How many people killed Vashj/Kael'Thas Pre-Nerf?Most of the players didn't even saw them."This is why tbc pve was so retarded.Unless you are in the%1 population of your server you couldnt even see the new content.How is it better game with only 1 percent of players playing the latest content? If you are hardcore raider now there are achievements, heroic modes, world or server first attempts.How will denying access to majority of players to latest content make your pve experience better. People saying vanilla-tbc better are either some hardcore elitists or living in nostalgia imo. Its not like that was so bad. As a casual you always had a goal. I had a casualfriend who farmed 1000x Karazhan until I got him into my Guild and he became maintank and tanked Illidan on our firstkill for us. LOL :D People saying vanilla-tbc better are either some hardcore elitists or living in nostalgia imo. Yes both! PvE Raiding was definitly better in TBC, that was by far the best PvE I ever played. So much fun! Even though Ulduar was crazy good, but the rest of the Expansion was Horseshit! | ||
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Rixxe
United Kingdom136 Posts
Looks like they want to remove any and all skill involved in offhealing and PvP. Or they are doing what they said they wouldn't, which is making dps specs as similar as possible. | ||
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