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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On August 17 2012 00:59 Toadily wrote: If you guys think M'uru pre-nerf was harder than Heroic LK (0-10% buff) you're out of your mind.. You say Yogg was easy and all about stacking affliction warlocks? To a degree yes, but you were obviously a ranged and never went down below if you think that was all there was to it. And M'uru is about 100x less execution than these fights, it was all about stacking classes and getting enough damage. Every wave was the same, interrupt, kill, interrupt kill. Phase 2? Spread and don't get hit by balls.. man that was so hard and complex.. oh wait. Just to add to this, Heroic LK was never killed until the buff reached 5%. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On August 17 2012 02:52 Signus wrote: The problem is that there aren't a lot of big bad guys left to defeat in the Warcraft universe, most of the big names have been defeated in WoW already. That's why they are doing Mists of Panderia, to pad for time since the major storylines of the original games have concluded. In an expansion or two, the only major villain left will be Sargeras. Once he gets taken down as an inevitable Raid Boss, there won't be much left to resolve in the Warcraft Universe. Kind of a shame considering how much I enjoyed the lore prior to WoW, but that's how these things go, I guess. Azshara, N'Zoth, 1 other unnamed Old God, Kil'Jaeden, etc. | ||
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Jimmy Raynor
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
On August 17 2012 17:27 Jimmy Raynor wrote: There are a lot of possibilities for new main bad guys but they are nowhere near as iconic or known as Illidan or Arthas Sargeras is pretty much the Sauron of Warcraft. | ||
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Inkblood
United States463 Posts
On August 18 2012 21:25 Andr3 wrote: Sargeras is pretty much the Sauron of Warcraft. Meh, a more apt comparison (imho) would be Sargeras is like Melkor/Morgoth. I think Sauron is closer to Kil'jaeden. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On August 17 2012 10:54 LunaSaint wrote: For the curious, the lore is somewhere along these lines. The Cataclysm has caused the mists protecting Pandaria to wear away, exposing it to the rest of Azeroth. A particularly fierce naval battle between the Alliance and Horde goes bad and both sides are shipwrecked and end up on the shores of Pandaria. This causes them to carry their war over there, and with it all the anguish and hatred. This stirs up something nasty in the land, and great aspects of this bad will rise and cause problems. The Alliance and Horde, with the aid of the Pandaren must go on one of those soul searching, Zen journeys to settle this is and work out what they really need to be fighting for. Holy shit Reading this makes me think this expansion has everything to be awesome lore-wise. Cataclysm kinda... weakened the whole war thing. I can see horde and alliance going into this quest thing where at a point, they will question themselves why are they fighting eachother(represented by varian/garrosh). Then they mention what one took from the other, insults fly out, and they decide it was time for a full-on attack to the enemy city. Then we get two raids. One for Horde. One for Alliance. The final bosses? Varian and Garrosh. | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
On August 18 2012 21:42 Inkblood wrote: Meh, a more apt comparison (imho) would be Sargeras is like Melkor/Morgoth. I think Sauron is closer to Kil'jaeden. Hmm yea you're right. Both are somewhere in the "abyss" and waiting for the final fight. Didn't blizzard say there were to be 2 expansions more, MoP and one more. I think it would make sense, WoW is getting really old. That said, I wonder when they'll make WoW F2P(as they have hinted that it will be eventually). | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On August 19 2012 03:50 Andr3 wrote: Hmm yea you're right. Both are somewhere in the "abyss" and waiting for the final fight. Didn't blizzard say there were to be 2 expansions more, MoP and one more. I think it would make sense, WoW is getting really old. That said, I wonder when they'll make WoW F2P(as they have hinted that it will be eventually). It is F2P already. Up to level 20. | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
On August 17 2012 05:35 windzor wrote: Funny thing, at time 3:46 when you see the WoW logo, in the globe behind, the landmass which can be seen, is Denmark... Omg, you are right. What a blunder by Blizzard, rofl. World of Denmark, haha. | ||
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Engore
United States1916 Posts
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paralleluniverse
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Saying that the talent system dumbs down the game is entirely wrong. No one spends hours picking a spec. Even a monkey could pick an effective spec under any previous (and current) iteration of the talent system. Picking a good talent spec is not a indication of skill. Virtually everyone, noob or pro, is capable of picking the most optimal spec. The new system is not as simple as throwing darts at the talent tree. Some talent choices may require you to adapt your playstyle to maximize effectiveness. So if you throw darts at the talent tree but you're not changing up your playstyle depending on the random choice of talents that the darts have selected, then you're a suboptimal player. The idea that all talents are useless in raiding because they add utility, not DPS, is the thinking of bads. Bads have the erroneous mindset that in raids, DPS only cares about DPS, healers only care about healing, and tanks only care about survivability. But if you read what raiders from world-first raiding guilds have to say, they understand, it's not just about DPS, utility and survivability and cooldowns for DPS specs are very important to progression raiding. Also, the new glyph system whereby most major glyphs are not an unambiguous power-up, but rather take away one thing to give you another, is ingenious game design. | ||
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absalom86
Iceland1770 Posts
On August 18 2012 21:42 Inkblood wrote: Meh, a more apt comparison (imho) would be Sargeras is like Melkor/Morgoth. I think Sauron is closer to Kil'jaeden. Stole the words from my mouth dear sir. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
Your post is 100% accurate and i agree 100% the old talent system is no different to this one. If anything these new talent systems are going to require you ro have dual talents up for 1 spec, i.e mages having both both talents for damage absorbtion in some fights and extra dps when they can stand still in others. I think Panda is on course to be as good as TBC expansion was and felt with how much new stuff came into the game, so i am looking forward too it. Currently, waiting 15-60minutes for Optimization to finish fml ;; | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
On August 30 2012 02:04 Kazeyonoma wrote: i seriously am so lost with the talent selection and rotations on my warrior, but for the first time in a long time, i'm super excited to play again. Prot or Fury? xD Im struggling to choose glyphs on my prot warrior (i have fury too but i main as tank) going wait a few days and play GW2 a bit longer as i want Addons to work properly xD so will wait until there all out and probs have a learn over the weekend. Feel free to share your builds though would like to see other peoples, oh and glyphs please xD | ||
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
http://elitistjerks.com/f80/ I'm soooo lost. I can't find any. But I thought they'll just come up with new optimal cookie cutter builds which everyone will copy. Oh noes -- the MoP talent system is a SUCCESS! | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
Blizzard 1 - 0 Trolls | ||
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DCRed
Finland435 Posts
On August 30 2012 19:45 paralleluniverse wrote: Cookie cutter builds... where are they? http://elitistjerks.com/f80/ I'm soooo lost. I can't find any. But I thought they'll just come up with new optimal cookie cutter builds which everyone will copy. Oh noes -- the MoP talent system is a SUCCESS! There's people(who've been playing through whole cata) saying "omg this patch sucks". Could this actually mean Blizzard has got something right and MoP might actually be the expansion we want? | ||
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