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KillerPenguin
Profile Joined June 2004
United States516 Posts
May 19 2005 23:16 GMT
#41
rei had some good input even if he brags about it.
http://www.escapeintolife.com/
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
May 23 2005 23:42 GMT
#42
^.^ no challenge so far.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Bard
Profile Joined November 2004
Jamaica898 Posts
June 30 2005 06:03 GMT
#43
(BUMP ^^)
I recently got into DOTA too Most popular version is 6.09b I think.

Since I started to play it like 3-4 days ago, I am not a really gosu level but because I pick up things quickly. I can say I am a positive addition to the team.

My favorite heroes are..

1) Poison related heroes
- These heroes can score early-mid game when everyone has relatively low hp.
I play like "I will just creep, I mean no harm to you" stance and just kill creeps. When opponent gets relxaed, creeps, lowers his hp then I go poison him :p

2) Ice related heroes
- I prefer Lich than Crystal Maiden. CM is more versatile and Lich is more aggressive and power related I think.
Again until I get Chain Nova, I just pretend like I am newbie farmer. Once I get Chain Nova, I just spam it around Nova + Chain Nova = good

Still I can't really control well Melee characters I need more experience to use them well.

For the items, I usually go for Ring of Basilius first. That way I can give mana regen and armor bonus to heroes and creeps.


If you are new to this game and afraid to try multi play, try to play AI version first. There's AI version of 5.84, which enables you to play with/against CPUs. This is quite fun too


Alright~!
Working on Subtitles..
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17238 Posts
June 30 2005 06:12 GMT
#44
You shouldn't go for ring of basilius. Best things to get first (although those vary for different heroes what you'll discover soon enough) are boots of speed (bought right after the game starts) and then getting perserverence (ring of health + void stone) which provides you with proper health/mana regen. After that you buy what's best for your char (aghanim for lich, crystal, zeus, refresher for luna, guinsoo for most int chars etc.)
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-06-30 06:36:48
June 30 2005 06:36 GMT
#45
I hate playing Intel characters, most of them are boring. With the most boring characters ever being sniper and drow. I like using heroes that are odd.

So far my favourites:

Syllabear
Pudge
Phantom Assassin
We decide our own destiny
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17238 Posts
June 30 2005 08:18 GMT
#46
I like nice chars like Pugna, Balanar or Luna where you need to show some real skill to handle them properly but give you a lot of entertainment in reward and very much own when you know how to work with them
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
inkblot
Profile Joined December 2004
United States1250 Posts
June 30 2005 08:34 GMT
#47
All the memorization in DotA kind of annoyed me. A single build order for one hero is much more to remember than a build order from a normal game. Knowing the many items, combos, abilities, etc is a little overwhelming at first.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
June 30 2005 08:40 GMT
#48
then just stick with 2-3 characters until you know them well, move on learn another, learn another etc.
is tft dota 5v5 as well? i still stick with roc dota because of the balance issues with allstars
oPtioNaLk
Profile Joined September 2004
Korea (South)564 Posts
June 30 2005 11:03 GMT
#49
Pugna is one of my favorites. Not many like him/ are good with him because of his low hp and armor. But I love nuking the shit out of other players. Decrepify + Nether Blast + Dagon + Life Drain = [gG'z]. Blink dagger helps for escaping and getting into position for nuking as well.
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
June 30 2005 12:23 GMT
#50
I HATE pugna. God damn that names gets to me for some reason.

Well I already said I hated intel heroes....
We decide our own destiny
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
July 01 2005 13:12 GMT
#51
--- Nuked ---
StaSiS
Profile Joined February 2004
United States147 Posts
July 01 2005 14:02 GMT
#52
it's really not a good idea to get boots first
what's more important early game is stats
so get ironwood branches, nulls if you are a intel hero, gauntlets of strength for strengh heroes, etc.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 01 2005 14:36 GMT
#53
I prefer boots as first item because of greater mobility. It's much easier to snipe a hero early game when you can hit and run. Branches are a waste of gold. They add minor stats but you'll eventually have to sell them later on because they take up room.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
July 01 2005 15:16 GMT
#54
Dota is just waste of life
All Those beneath an angry star
[Random]Digen
Profile Joined March 2005
United Kingdom195 Posts
July 01 2005 17:31 GMT
#55
i didnt read the rest of the pages so im sorry if its been asked already but i am getting a new pc in 2 weeks and my friend is giving me his Wc3 and TFT games (he doesnt like them!) and i heard alot of people talking about dota, i just wondered what do you actually do on it?
Bard
Profile Joined November 2004
Jamaica898 Posts
July 01 2005 18:15 GMT
#56
On May 17 2005 08:05 Manit0u wrote:
DotA is a mod for wc3 where you play 5on5 usually (5 as scourge and 5 as sentinel). You get your hero at the start and that's all you have. You level him up (max lev is 25) and gain cash by killing creeps and oponents.
There are 2 bases and the objective is to destroy your enemies main building. Each base generates some creeps from time to time that start to march at the enemy base.
For cash you can buy new items and mix them into more powerful ones.
The best thing there are the UT sounds like doublekill!, godlike!, ownage!, wicked sick! etc.
You can play this games with couple of options, most common are:

-ar : everyone gets random hero (scourge can get sentinel heroes and the same way around)
-ap: everyone picks his hero
-sc: each base will spawn some super creeps from time to time (with shitload of hp/dmg etc.)
-mm: mirror match, everyone gets random hero and both teams have same heroes
-dm: deathmatch mode, i really don't remember what it does ^_^

For more detailed info go to: http://www.dota-allstars.info/
Working on Subtitles..
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
July 01 2005 19:20 GMT
#57
On June 30 2005 15:03 Bard wrote:
(BUMP ^^)
I recently got into DOTA too Most popular version is 6.09b I think.

Since I started to play it like 3-4 days ago, I am not a really gosu level but because I pick up things quickly. I can say I am a positive addition to the team.

My favorite heroes are..

1) Poison related heroes
- These heroes can score early-mid game when everyone has relatively low hp.
I play like "I will just creep, I mean no harm to you" stance and just kill creeps. When opponent gets relxaed, creeps, lowers his hp then I go poison him :p

2) Ice related heroes
- I prefer Lich than Crystal Maiden. CM is more versatile and Lich is more aggressive and power related I think.
Again until I get Chain Nova, I just pretend like I am newbie farmer. Once I get Chain Nova, I just spam it around Nova + Chain Nova = good

Still I can't really control well Melee characters I need more experience to use them well.

For the items, I usually go for Ring of Basilius first. That way I can give mana regen and armor bonus to heroes and creeps.


If you are new to this game and afraid to try multi play, try to play AI version first. There's AI version of 5.84, which enables you to play with/against CPUs. This is quite fun too


Alright~!


You like exactly the same things like me when I started. Lich is easy because you dont need much control and just spam chain nova against some public gamers who dont know how to avoid the dmg Melee heros will be the strongest when you know how to control them. Its just about surviving and farming early game and killing late. Some can be used as nukers like those stunners
but dont engage enemys in the beginning with melee heros. Just go in get last hit on all creeps and stay away from traps.
Bard
Profile Joined November 2004
Jamaica898 Posts
July 01 2005 19:44 GMT
#58
"You like exactly the same things like me when I started. Lich is easy because you dont need much control and just spam chain nova against some public gamers who dont know how to avoid the dmg"

So how do you avoid damage? Buy the Planeswalker cloack? Run Away? ^^ Tips and help will be appreciated.
Working on Subtitles..
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-07-01 20:01:08
July 01 2005 19:59 GMT
#59
Lich is getting pretty useless lategame the only thing you can do with him when most chars have bkb is go skadi or guinsoo. Guinsoo for disable before they do bkb and Skadi for slowing them so you team can kill them better and skadi even gives some life and avoiding dmg is by spreading out and running away from each others. Most public gamers just stay together and dont run away from each other. If you run you just get hit twice most of the time.
phiwha
Profile Joined June 2004
United States158 Posts
July 01 2005 20:27 GMT
#60
Ok, to people saying this hero sucks late game or saying to buy only certain items for this hero... theres more to it than that. Just like any strategy game, you do your item build to counter what heroes/items the other teams have, and also to complement your own team. People often forget that this is a team game.

For example... for lich, there are numerous build orders for him. Personally if I'm just pubbing, ill get boots -> soulbooster/blink dagger -> scepter -> guinsoo or refreshor orb -> skaldi. Depending on your style and their heroes you can adjust this of course. Blink dagger is one of the best items for almost any hero. For lich, its advantageous to get a solo lane (even mid alone) vs two heroes, as you can really make good use of nova spamming + chain frost. Vs some hero combos, u may need to get a ring of regen or ring of health after boots.

For a clan match, I might go totally support lich/lane controller which is -> boots -> mekanism -> boots of travel -> guinsoo. Nulls are a huge waste of money, so is any mana regen item like ring of basilius. With liches dark ritual, you will NEVER be short of mana.

The key with lich is, early - mid game dominance... just like any simple structure game like dota, it has somewhat of a slipper slope... kill them enough early, and theres not much they can do to come back. Outlevel them by making them heal early, and flank THEIR flanks in the river if u notice they travel together.... chain frost is auto kill if lets say you meet 2 people in the river alone.

As for what Rei said about getting last hits, healing before lvl 7, killing your own creeps to deny exp, these are basic skills that you need to learn eventually... but anyone who says they get EVERY creep hit and NEVER had to go heal by 7 is lying... it all depends on the situation, and u try to make the best out of it every game.
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