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DotA is a mod for wc3 where you play 5on5 usually (5 as scourge and 5 as sentinel). You get your hero at the start and that's all you have. You level him up (max lev is 25) and gain cash by killing creeps and oponents.
There are 2 bases and the objective is to destroy your enemies main building. Each base generates some creeps from time to time that start to march at the enemy base.
For cash you can buy new items and mix them into more powerful ones.
The best thing there are the UT sounds like doublekill!, godlike!, ownage!, wicked sick! etc.
You can play this games with couple of options, most common are:
-ar : everyone gets random hero (scourge can get sentinel heroes and the same way around)
-ap: everyone picks his hero
-sc: each base will spawn some super creeps from time to time (with shitload of hp/dmg etc.)
-mm: mirror match, everyone gets random hero and both teams have same heroes
-dm: deathmatch mode, i really don't remember what it does ^_^
For more detailed info go to: http://www.dota-allstars.info/
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don't listen to them, they just play public games with other noobs, and no idea how to play team games. the number rule is you want go get heros that can stop the other team's hero from functioning. which means stuns, silences, shackles, polymorphs are the skills you need to own the other team. then it comes to damage out put, normally people use clinks as damage out put hero or sven for both stun and high damage, there are alot of hero that fits this job. WHY you would choose ultility hero over damage out put heros in TEAM GAMES(dota is 5v5 map)? reason is simply in 5v5 clan matches, you hardly ever see people 1vs1 pass level 6, it's all gangbang, each second you immoble the other team's damage dealers with other ultility skills you reduce their damage out put by a significant amount, the well that's why guild vs guild usually pick stealth heros as their damage dealer and have like 3 or 4 other players as support heros, the point is the other team can't immobilize your damage dealer from the get go. This game is deep, there is no best heros. there is no best item, and person skill doesn't really go far once you know how the game works and have discipline not to die 10 million times and feed the other team, it all comes down to team corrolation, and voice chat is a required when you are in a clan match,there is no room for you to start typing and microing your hero in the same time. And if any of you noobs not down with what i'm saying i will accept any challenge and we shall show you how to play dota.
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Russian Federation4447 Posts
On May 16 2005 14:25 Izenra wrote:
The only thing I wanna do is to pwn my friend ass off!
I will try that Naix off. What are his ability?
First time I played, bounty hunter was always chasing me ( I was anti-mage)
Maiden ( if it's the blue shirt, blond girl mage) was freaking pwning everyone with her mass freeze spell.
I saw king loric( the undead) at 3000 hp! That insane!
But , I don't know if they are on the bottom or upper side, so What is the best for upper and bottom side?
DO NOT play Naix if you are a noob. You will get pwned to badly you'll quit.
This game is quite complicated. Go to Dota-allstars.com to get strategies and build orders. Dota build orders are just as important as starcraft build orders. Some build orders (leveling up and item strategies) can win give you the edge you need.
In my dota days, I have seen lots of sick shit. Mostly during 5.84b when mask of madness was the best item ever. 1200 damage criticals and going 24-2 with sven. Fun fun fun.
As a noob, go play ap games (dont even bother trying to play ar), and stick with king leoric. He is the easiest to play and the hardest to kill.
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On May 16 2005 14:22 Yuljan wrote:
in private games no naix will get to that level without getting very much help from his team. Naix is only godly in public with some newbs feeding him or nukers dont know how to take care of him. Also 20% dmg backthrow dunno how that armor is called can help eliminate his life leech and with his low hp he should be killable.
My cousin once died 7 times with naix in the early game. Guess what, he came back to own the entire game. All I had to do was buy him 2 ogre axes (2000 bucks, I was treant and fed him all the money) and it was over.
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then it was your opponents fault 
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Rei's post was a good description of "pro" Dota, although it was hard as shit to read. Many heroes that pwn in pubbies really suck in clan matches (ie: Naix, Luna). The game dynamic for good teams works quite different from a random pick up game.
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I do beleive though that some heroes just plain suck.
Maybe it is the player, but most of the melee base player were always getting behind.
Melee without any invisible stuff or things like that.
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Umm... Have you ever seen Sven taking out lev 20 hero with 1 bolt + 1 hit? Well I have, also after seeing Leoric deal 3k criticals with every other hit (and he did hit fast) was quite intimidating. Melee chars are really poor in the hands of unskilled players but in right hands they just pwn.
rei: You're in this TDA league or sth? We have registered there with friends but couldn't play any matches against other teams since we don't know yet how this goddamn bot works in #clan tda @ azeroth.
If you'd like to help us out or play some games pls pm me so we could set up a game sometime.
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I've seen a sven take down a whole team of heroes (well that was the time of the bug with guardian angel) and also have seen sven take down the frozen throne by himself without manta style...
In the deciding game of tournaments I've seen, it's is usually -mm -ar here so that really tests the all around knowledge of the players. In the most recent tournament, the heroes that were randomly picked were naix, leshrac, balanar, and akasha. The winning team was able to feed the naix with a heart at lvl 8 and got to complete a burize by lvl 11. That naix just mopped out the other team's naix and the rest of his teammates...
For me this is high level DOTA playing is about, -mm -ar to see the real skills of the players
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-ar can be really imbalanced though. If you get a gay team and they got perfect pusher or hero killer you cant do much.
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Doesn't you get random hero with just -mm, if I remember well you don't need -ar there.
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to Manit0u or anyone who thinks they are the shit:
we play on west usually, we did register for TDA league, using the tag DOTA-(item name from dota) and it didn't work out cause like you said the bot don't work. but we don't really care, we just usually challenge the good clans that we know.
my handle is reilovesjason on west, add me to friend list only if you are any good, because I don't want to waste my time on some noob clan that gets own in like less than 30 mins. If you can't even get the last hit on every creep infront of you for gold don't add me, if you have to go back town and heal before level 7 don't add me. if you can't kill your own creep so the other team don't get exp from that creep don't add me, and finally if you die 3 times in the first 10 mins and refuse to leave the game don't add me, because you will be just wasting my time.
PS if you want revange after we whoop you in dota and know that you have no hope to beat us in dota you are welcome to challenge me in a game of broodwar.
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On May 18 2005 10:38 rei wrote:
to Manit0u or anyone who thinks they are the shit:
we play on west usually, we did register for TDA league, using the tag DOTA-(item name from dota) and it didn't work out cause like you said the bot don't work. but we don't really care, we just usually challenge the good clans that we know.
my handle is reilovesjason on west, add me to friend list only if you are any good, because I don't want to waste my time on some noob clan that gets own in like less than 30 mins. If you can't even get the last hit on every creep infront of you for gold don't add me, if you have to go back town and heal before level 7 don't add me. if you can't kill your own creep so the other team don't get exp from that creep don't add me, and finally if you die 3 times in the first 10 mins and refuse to leave the game don't add me, because you will be just wasting my time.
PS if you want revange after we whoop you in dota and know that you have no hope to beat us in dota you are welcome to challenge me in a game of broodwar.
you have a chip on your shoulder or something??
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I think he's just trying to show "how much he knows". Everything he mentioned is pretty common knowledge.
But I'll be damned if he can pull off everything he mentioned exactly how he mentioned in every circumstance as he implies is necessary, such as "If you can't even get the last hit on every creep infront of you for gold don't add me." Shit happens man, people can't play perfect all the time.
Though, in all honesty, he is right in pretty much every concept he's mentioning. He's just really arrogant.
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it sounds like he is big time geek to me 
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On May 18 2005 11:58 Larry_David wrote:it sounds like he is big time geek to me
and you my friend is commiting the fallacy of ad hominem.
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On May 18 2005 12:05 rei wrote:Show nested quote +On May 18 2005 11:58 Larry_David wrote:it sounds like he is big time geek to me and you my friend is commiting the fallacy of ad hominem.
and now he even proved it :O
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On May 18 2005 11:37 Orlandu wrote:
I think he's just trying to show "how much he knows". Everything he mentioned is pretty common knowledge.
But I'll be damned if he can pull off everything he mentioned exactly how he mentioned in every circumstance as he implies is necessary, such as "If you can't even get the last hit on every creep infront of you for gold don't add me." Shit happens man, people can't play perfect all the time.
Though, in all honesty, he is right in pretty much every concept he's mentioning. He's just really arrogant.
Thats why you should ignore them.
EDIT: I bet most of what he is saying is just gross exaggeration of his own skills.
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Ok let's say that when I play, here how the people are :
2 are good, but always get in seperate team so it's fair.
2 suck as hell, they do whatever the fuck they want.
4 , the rest know how to play but ain't trying to work in team work.
So I don't really need to have a hero that support, because everyone do whatever the fuck they want  .
Any good 1v1 player killer hero?
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do you guys like -reverse mode ? for me its most funny mode of all
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