EPTHowever, there is a shitload of character that you can choose from and also a lot of item you can buy.
Anyone play this game? Anyway one strategy , or know which is the best character?
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Izenra
Canada679 Posts
However, there is a shitload of character that you can choose from and also a lot of item you can buy. Anyone play this game? Anyway one strategy , or know which is the best character? | ||
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
Personally, I love Leoric. Whenever I play him, the other team is lucky to get more than a kill or two on me the whole game. He's very newbie-friendly, but is a monster if you know how to use him. But Naix is seriously invincible if you know how to use him, because once he gets high-level, he's literally untouchable. It's getting there that's the problem. | ||
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Square Bear
Bahamas266 Posts
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
I have never ever seen a hero take on 4 other heroes AT THE SAME TIME and walk off like nothing happened. At a high level his natural agility is like 100+ points (excluding bonuses) so that gives him around 15 natural armor. With the bonuses and items that becomes 20 armor, so around 55% damage reduction. He's fucking sick. However the only hero that kicks his ass is Stealth Assassin. 800 damage criticals and 24% evasion will take naix down. All heroes in general are very good if you know how to use them. Some heroes are easier to use than others but it's more the player than the hero. DOTA > WAR3 its not even funny. Its not uncommon to see an entire page of UMS wiht only dota games. | ||
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Prawned
United Kingdom794 Posts
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KillerPenguin
United States516 Posts
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
On May 16 2005 10:08 Tien wrote: Naix is really imbalanced right now. I have never ever seen a hero take on 4 other heroes AT THE SAME TIME and walk off like nothing happened. At a high level his natural agility is like 100+ points (excluding bonuses) so that gives him around 15 natural armor. With the bonuses and items that becomes 20 armor, so around 55% damage reduction. He's fucking sick. However the only hero that kicks his ass is Stealth Assassin. 800 damage criticals and 24% evasion will take naix down. All heroes in general are very good if you know how to use them. Some heroes are easier to use than others but it's more the player than the hero. DOTA > WAR3 its not even funny. Its not uncommon to see an entire page of UMS wiht only dota games. Sadly, that's not an exaggeration of Naix at all =] I've seen games where I'll have this totally pimped out character, like level 20's already, and then this little Naix comes running up and kills me AND my entire team while I'm at the well. You can't even run because of his poison. I think that definitely needs some kind of a nerf, and probably his skill that works like vampiric aura, its just a little too strong late-game. | ||
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Destroyer
Czech Republic931 Posts
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waa
289 Posts
On May 16 2005 10:08 Tien wrote: DOTA > WAR3 so true | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
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Yuljan
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On May 16 2005 10:08 Tien wrote: Naix is really imbalanced right now. I have never ever seen a hero take on 4 other heroes AT THE SAME TIME and walk off like nothing happened. At a high level his natural agility is like 100+ points (excluding bonuses) so that gives him around 15 natural armor. With the bonuses and items that becomes 20 armor, so around 55% damage reduction. He's fucking sick. However the only hero that kicks his ass is Stealth Assassin. 800 damage criticals and 24% evasion will take naix down. All heroes in general are very good if you know how to use them. Some heroes are easier to use than others but it's more the player than the hero. DOTA > WAR3 its not even funny. Its not uncommon to see an entire page of UMS wiht only dota games. in private games no naix will get to that level without getting very much help from his team. Naix is only godly in public with some newbs feeding him or nukers dont know how to take care of him. Also 20% dmg backthrow dunno how that armor is called can help eliminate his life leech and with his low hp he should be killable. | ||
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Izenra
Canada679 Posts
I will try that Naix off. What are his ability? First time I played, bounty hunter was always chasing me ( I was anti-mage) Maiden ( if it's the blue shirt, blond girl mage) was freaking pwning everyone with her mass freeze spell. I saw king loric( the undead) at 3000 hp! That insane! But , I don't know if they are on the bottom or upper side, so What is the best for upper and bottom side? | ||
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KillerPenguin
United States516 Posts
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Guam3521 Posts
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Izenra
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oPtioNaLk
Korea (South)564 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17238 Posts
On May 16 2005 10:08 Tien wrote: Naix is really imbalanced right now. I have never ever seen a hero take on 4 other heroes AT THE SAME TIME and walk off like nothing happened. At a high level his natural agility is like 100+ points (excluding bonuses) so that gives him around 15 natural armor. With the bonuses and items that becomes 20 armor, so around 55% damage reduction. He's fucking sick. However the only hero that kicks his ass is Stealth Assassin. 800 damage criticals and 24% evasion will take naix down. All heroes in general are very good if you know how to use them. Some heroes are easier to use than others but it's more the player than the hero. DOTA > WAR3 its not even funny. Its not uncommon to see an entire page of UMS wiht only dota games. 800 dmg crit is poor Top 10 chars imo: 1. Venomancer (I always repick him though since he's too imba) 2. Lich (with aghanim it's pure pwnage) 3. Zeus 4. Fletcher 5. Razor 6. Leoric 7. Crystal maiden 8. Gambler (my fav char ^_^) 9. Nightstalker (at night he's able to kill absolutely everything without much sweat) 10. Vengeful spirit It's only my opinion on this chars and I like to play them all except veno and zeus (it goes far too easy with them) If anyone would like to make your oponents cry just make the game -ap, pick venomancer, go for this item that gives you windwalk (don't remember the name now) + mkb + buriza and just windwalk right where there is most oponents and launch pnova, shadowstrike and kill them all cuz they won't be able to escape you (and when things start to go bad you can always ww to safety). I hate veno :/ | ||
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s4rkish
Philippines2 Posts
Every character can own once you know the weakness of the other chars and the strength of yours. Also remember that DOTA is a team game... In 5.84c, the strongest scourge hero would definitely medusa. When a good player is controlling it, it would require the whole team to kill it. It's so powerful that in team games or in clan matches, a clan can just farm and feed medusa items and it alone will carry the team. One team popularly called the "wave team" comprises of akasha, medusa, time stopper, and magnataur. Basically, time stopper and akasha farm for medusa's items. Magnataur is there to empower medusa. When it times in team battles, time stopper time stops then magnataur goes through and rev pols and everyone launches their aoe spells. Most agi and int heroes would die through this and if anyone lives, medusa will just chop them. At late game when they afforded to buy a bkb at least, medusa would be too powerful to control since she has received the blessings of her teammates. This strat is too effective and powerful that when they held a tournament, they imposed a rule to "weaken" medusa in a way but she still is powerful For senti, it would be sven. It's the only hero that can be capable of taking down a well fed medusa singlehandedly. In 5.84c, they are the two most poweful heroes for each side. 6.0 remains to be a weird map because of the new additions but certainly it does address the things needed to be balanced like medusa and ultimate gay item "manta style." | ||
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Izenra
Canada679 Posts
Although I had a freakky good time owning player : I attack then until they have 500 hp less. They run aways, attack for 200, long range chain bolt for 300, die. The narrator was always saying ; YOU ARE GOD!! PWNED!! I killed at least 30 times, and die 3 time. Although I am better than my friend and medusa took at while to level up. | ||
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smurfingchobo
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 Can someone explain what this is all about? | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17238 Posts
There are 2 bases and the objective is to destroy your enemies main building. Each base generates some creeps from time to time that start to march at the enemy base. For cash you can buy new items and mix them into more powerful ones. The best thing there are the UT sounds like doublekill!, godlike!, ownage!, wicked sick! etc. You can play this games with couple of options, most common are: -ar : everyone gets random hero (scourge can get sentinel heroes and the same way around) -ap: everyone picks his hero -sc: each base will spawn some super creeps from time to time (with shitload of hp/dmg etc.) -mm: mirror match, everyone gets random hero and both teams have same heroes -dm: deathmatch mode, i really don't remember what it does ^_^ For more detailed info go to: http://www.dota-allstars.info/ | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On May 16 2005 14:25 Izenra wrote: The only thing I wanna do is to pwn my friend ass off! I will try that Naix off. What are his ability? First time I played, bounty hunter was always chasing me ( I was anti-mage) Maiden ( if it's the blue shirt, blond girl mage) was freaking pwning everyone with her mass freeze spell. I saw king loric( the undead) at 3000 hp! That insane! But , I don't know if they are on the bottom or upper side, so What is the best for upper and bottom side? DO NOT play Naix if you are a noob. You will get pwned to badly you'll quit. This game is quite complicated. Go to Dota-allstars.com to get strategies and build orders. Dota build orders are just as important as starcraft build orders. Some build orders (leveling up and item strategies) can win give you the edge you need. In my dota days, I have seen lots of sick shit. Mostly during 5.84b when mask of madness was the best item ever. 1200 damage criticals and going 24-2 with sven. Fun fun fun. As a noob, go play ap games (dont even bother trying to play ar), and stick with king leoric. He is the easiest to play and the hardest to kill. | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On May 16 2005 14:22 Yuljan wrote: in private games no naix will get to that level without getting very much help from his team. Naix is only godly in public with some newbs feeding him or nukers dont know how to take care of him. Also 20% dmg backthrow dunno how that armor is called can help eliminate his life leech and with his low hp he should be killable. My cousin once died 7 times with naix in the early game. Guess what, he came back to own the entire game. All I had to do was buy him 2 ogre axes (2000 bucks, I was treant and fed him all the money) and it was over. | ||
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Yuljan
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oPtioNaLk
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Izenra
Canada679 Posts
Maybe it is the player, but most of the melee base player were always getting behind. Melee without any invisible stuff or things like that. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17238 Posts
rei: You're in this TDA league or sth? We have registered there with friends but couldn't play any matches against other teams since we don't know yet how this goddamn bot works in #clan tda @ azeroth. If you'd like to help us out or play some games pls pm me so we could set up a game sometime. | ||
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s4rkish
Philippines2 Posts
In the deciding game of tournaments I've seen, it's is usually -mm -ar here so that really tests the all around knowledge of the players. In the most recent tournament, the heroes that were randomly picked were naix, leshrac, balanar, and akasha. The winning team was able to feed the naix with a heart at lvl 8 and got to complete a burize by lvl 11. That naix just mopped out the other team's naix and the rest of his teammates... For me this is high level DOTA playing is about, -mm -ar to see the real skills of the players | ||
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Yuljan
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Manit0u
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rei
United States3594 Posts
we play on west usually, we did register for TDA league, using the tag DOTA-(item name from dota) and it didn't work out cause like you said the bot don't work. but we don't really care, we just usually challenge the good clans that we know. my handle is reilovesjason on west, add me to friend list only if you are any good, because I don't want to waste my time on some noob clan that gets own in like less than 30 mins. If you can't even get the last hit on every creep infront of you for gold don't add me, if you have to go back town and heal before level 7 don't add me. if you can't kill your own creep so the other team don't get exp from that creep don't add me, and finally if you die 3 times in the first 10 mins and refuse to leave the game don't add me, because you will be just wasting my time. PS if you want revange after we whoop you in dota and know that you have no hope to beat us in dota you are welcome to challenge me in a game of broodwar. | ||
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Locked
United States4182 Posts
On May 18 2005 10:38 rei wrote: to Manit0u or anyone who thinks they are the shit: we play on west usually, we did register for TDA league, using the tag DOTA-(item name from dota) and it didn't work out cause like you said the bot don't work. but we don't really care, we just usually challenge the good clans that we know. my handle is reilovesjason on west, add me to friend list only if you are any good, because I don't want to waste my time on some noob clan that gets own in like less than 30 mins. If you can't even get the last hit on every creep infront of you for gold don't add me, if you have to go back town and heal before level 7 don't add me. if you can't kill your own creep so the other team don't get exp from that creep don't add me, and finally if you die 3 times in the first 10 mins and refuse to leave the game don't add me, because you will be just wasting my time. PS if you want revange after we whoop you in dota and know that you have no hope to beat us in dota you are welcome to challenge me in a game of broodwar. you have a chip on your shoulder or something?? | ||
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Orlandu
China2450 Posts
But I'll be damned if he can pull off everything he mentioned exactly how he mentioned in every circumstance as he implies is necessary, such as "If you can't even get the last hit on every creep infront of you for gold don't add me." Shit happens man, people can't play perfect all the time. Though, in all honesty, he is right in pretty much every concept he's mentioning. He's just really arrogant. | ||
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Larry_David
United States211 Posts
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On May 18 2005 11:58 Larry_David wrote: it sounds like he is big time geek to me and you my friend is commiting the fallacy of ad hominem. | ||
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Yuljan
2196 Posts
On May 18 2005 12:05 rei wrote: and you my friend is commiting the fallacy of ad hominem. and now he even proved it :O | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On May 18 2005 11:37 Orlandu wrote: I think he's just trying to show "how much he knows". Everything he mentioned is pretty common knowledge. But I'll be damned if he can pull off everything he mentioned exactly how he mentioned in every circumstance as he implies is necessary, such as "If you can't even get the last hit on every creep infront of you for gold don't add me." Shit happens man, people can't play perfect all the time. Though, in all honesty, he is right in pretty much every concept he's mentioning. He's just really arrogant. Thats why you should ignore them. EDIT: I bet most of what he is saying is just gross exaggeration of his own skills. | ||
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Izenra
Canada679 Posts
2 are good, but always get in seperate team so it's fair. 2 suck as hell, they do whatever the fuck they want. 4 , the rest know how to play but ain't trying to work in team work. So I don't really need to have a hero that support, because everyone do whatever the fuck they want .Any good 1v1 player killer hero? | ||
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Destroyer
Czech Republic931 Posts
for me its most funny mode of all | ||
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KillerPenguin
United States516 Posts
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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Bard
Jamaica898 Posts
I recently got into DOTA too Most popular version is 6.09b I think.Since I started to play it like 3-4 days ago, I am not a really gosu level but because I pick up things quickly. I can say I am a positive addition to the team. My favorite heroes are.. 1) Poison related heroes - These heroes can score early-mid game when everyone has relatively low hp. I play like "I will just creep, I mean no harm to you" stance and just kill creeps. When opponent gets relxaed, creeps, lowers his hp then I go poison him :p 2) Ice related heroes - I prefer Lich than Crystal Maiden. CM is more versatile and Lich is more aggressive and power related I think. Again until I get Chain Nova, I just pretend like I am newbie farmer. Once I get Chain Nova, I just spam it around Nova + Chain Nova = goodStill I can't really control well Melee characters  I need more experience to use them well.For the items, I usually go for Ring of Basilius first. That way I can give mana regen and armor bonus to heroes and creeps. If you are new to this game and afraid to try multi play, try to play AI version first. There's AI version of 5.84, which enables you to play with/against CPUs. This is quite fun too Alright~! | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17238 Posts
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
So far my favourites: Syllabear Pudge Phantom Assassin | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17238 Posts
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inkblot
United States1250 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
is tft dota 5v5 as well? i still stick with roc dota because of the balance issues with allstars | ||
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oPtioNaLk
Korea (South)564 Posts
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Well I already said I hated intel heroes.... | ||
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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StaSiS
United States147 Posts
what's more important early game is stats so get ironwood branches, nulls if you are a intel hero, gauntlets of strength for strengh heroes, etc. | ||
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United States37500 Posts
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LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
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[Random]Digen
United Kingdom195 Posts
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Bard
Jamaica898 Posts
On May 17 2005 08:05 Manit0u wrote: DotA is a mod for wc3 where you play 5on5 usually (5 as scourge and 5 as sentinel). You get your hero at the start and that's all you have. You level him up (max lev is 25) and gain cash by killing creeps and oponents. There are 2 bases and the objective is to destroy your enemies main building. Each base generates some creeps from time to time that start to march at the enemy base. For cash you can buy new items and mix them into more powerful ones. The best thing there are the UT sounds like doublekill!, godlike!, ownage!, wicked sick! etc. You can play this games with couple of options, most common are: -ar : everyone gets random hero (scourge can get sentinel heroes and the same way around) -ap: everyone picks his hero -sc: each base will spawn some super creeps from time to time (with shitload of hp/dmg etc.) -mm: mirror match, everyone gets random hero and both teams have same heroes -dm: deathmatch mode, i really don't remember what it does ^_^ For more detailed info go to: http://www.dota-allstars.info/ | ||
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Yuljan
2196 Posts
On June 30 2005 15:03 Bard wrote: (BUMP ^^) I recently got into DOTA too Most popular version is 6.09b I think.Since I started to play it like 3-4 days ago, I am not a really gosu level but because I pick up things quickly. I can say I am a positive addition to the team. My favorite heroes are.. 1) Poison related heroes - These heroes can score early-mid game when everyone has relatively low hp. I play like "I will just creep, I mean no harm to you" stance and just kill creeps. When opponent gets relxaed, creeps, lowers his hp then I go poison him :p 2) Ice related heroes - I prefer Lich than Crystal Maiden. CM is more versatile and Lich is more aggressive and power related I think. Again until I get Chain Nova, I just pretend like I am newbie farmer. Once I get Chain Nova, I just spam it around Nova + Chain Nova = goodStill I can't really control well Melee characters I need more experience to use them well.For the items, I usually go for Ring of Basilius first. That way I can give mana regen and armor bonus to heroes and creeps. If you are new to this game and afraid to try multi play, try to play AI version first. There's AI version of 5.84, which enables you to play with/against CPUs. This is quite fun too Alright~! You like exactly the same things like me when I started. Lich is easy because you dont need much control and just spam chain nova against some public gamers who dont know how to avoid the dmg Melee heros will be the strongest when you know how to control them. Its just about surviving and farming early game and killing late. Some can be used as nukers like those stunners but dont engage enemys in the beginning with melee heros. Just go in get last hit on all creeps and stay away from traps. | ||
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Bard
Jamaica898 Posts
So how do you avoid damage? Buy the Planeswalker cloack? Run Away? ^^ Tips and help will be appreciated. | ||
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Yuljan
2196 Posts
and avoiding dmg is by spreading out and running away from each others. Most public gamers just stay together and dont run away from each other. If you run you just get hit twice most of the time. | ||
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phiwha
United States158 Posts
For example... for lich, there are numerous build orders for him. Personally if I'm just pubbing, ill get boots -> soulbooster/blink dagger -> scepter -> guinsoo or refreshor orb -> skaldi. Depending on your style and their heroes you can adjust this of course. Blink dagger is one of the best items for almost any hero. For lich, its advantageous to get a solo lane (even mid alone) vs two heroes, as you can really make good use of nova spamming + chain frost. Vs some hero combos, u may need to get a ring of regen or ring of health after boots. For a clan match, I might go totally support lich/lane controller which is -> boots -> mekanism -> boots of travel -> guinsoo. Nulls are a huge waste of money, so is any mana regen item like ring of basilius. With liches dark ritual, you will NEVER be short of mana. The key with lich is, early - mid game dominance... just like any simple structure game like dota, it has somewhat of a slipper slope... kill them enough early, and theres not much they can do to come back. Outlevel them by making them heal early, and flank THEIR flanks in the river if u notice they travel together.... chain frost is auto kill if lets say you meet 2 people in the river alone. As for what Rei said about getting last hits, healing before lvl 7, killing your own creeps to deny exp, these are basic skills that you need to learn eventually... but anyone who says they get EVERY creep hit and NEVER had to go heal by 7 is lying... it all depends on the situation, and u try to make the best out of it every game. | ||
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phiwha
United States158 Posts
On July 02 2005 04:44 Bard wrote: "You like exactly the same things like me when I started. Lich is easy because you dont need much control and just spam chain nova against some public gamers who dont know how to avoid the dmg" So how do you avoid damage? Buy the Planeswalker cloack? Run Away? ^^ Tips and help will be appreciated. To avoid damage with lich, its all about being agressive - and utilizing the fact that your nova has a good range. Practice anticipating when heroes move up to stun/nuke, and nova them and dodge their spell. With your almost unlimited mana pool from dark ritual, they wont be able to keep up in a nuke exchange for long. When heroes chase you trying to nuke, anticipate when they will turn back (for example, they are getting near your tower) and turn around and nuke them. Once u get blink dagger and/or hit lvl 6, u should be actively flanking all lanes and punishing any low HP hero thats tower hugging. Scout river for powerups - a rune like haste is an automatic kill for any decent player with a hero like lich. As for playing AGAINST lich, you really have to play passive for the most part, and get ring of health or regen... when he hits lvl 6, if you are with other heroes, always stay apart, and never try to flank lich out in the open with your team mates. Chain Frost bounces 7 times -_- | ||
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phiwha
United States158 Posts
On June 30 2005 15:12 Manit0u wrote: You shouldn't go for ring of basilius. Best things to get first (although those vary for different heroes what you'll discover soon enough) are boots of speed (bought right after the game starts) and then getting perserverence (ring of health + void stone) which provides you with proper health/mana regen. After that you buy what's best for your char (aghanim for lich, crystal, zeus, refresher for luna, guinsoo for most int chars etc.) Perseverance is a solid item choice for almost any hero - especially if you plan to get refreshor or battlefury later. Dont overlook items like iron branches, saphire water, null talisman, bracers, wraith bands. They can often give you the edge early on to out level a hero or get that extra killing nuke out. The way I think of it - its an investment... if you're gonna spend the money on low level items, make good use of them, or dont buy them at all. | ||
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phiwha
United States158 Posts
On May 24 2005 08:42 rei wrote: ^.^ no challenge so far. Rei, do you guys still play igs? My clan actually signed up, but because of their retarded system, we're just waiting for the next season to start. Anyways, if you're ever on east, come to channel: clan coda. We'll give you a good game anytime. | ||
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phiwha
United States158 Posts
On May 17 2005 11:53 rei wrote: don't listen to them, they just play public games with other noobs, and no idea how to play team games. the number rule is you want go get heros that can stop the other team's hero from functioning. which means stuns, silences, shackles, polymorphs are the skills you need to own the other team. then it comes to damage out put, normally people use clinks as damage out put hero or sven for both stun and high damage, there are alot of hero that fits this job. WHY you would choose ultility hero over damage out put heros in TEAM GAMES(dota is 5v5 map)? reason is simply in 5v5 clan matches, you hardly ever see people 1vs1 pass level 6, it's all gangbang, each second you immoble the other team's damage dealers with other ultility skills you reduce their damage out put by a significant amount, the well that's why guild vs guild usually pick stealth heros as their damage dealer and have like 3 or 4 other players as support heros, the point is the other team can't immobilize your damage dealer from the get go. This game is deep, there is no best heros. there is no best item, and person skill doesn't really go far once you know how the game works and have discipline not to die 10 million times and feed the other team, it all comes down to team corrolation, and voice chat is a required when you are in a clan match,there is no room for you to start typing and microing your hero in the same time. And if any of you noobs not down with what i'm saying i will accept any challenge and we shall show you how to play dota. 100% correct. For example, people named some of the 'top heroes'... they may be good for owning noobs in pubs, but in any kind of serious match, or against a coordinated team, those ffa pub bash heroes dont cut it anymore. For example, if it was sentinel vs scourge in a clan match, some of the heroes you would see are: Sentinel: Omniknight, Maiden, Centaur, Rhasta, Sven, Treant, Enigma Scourge: Axe, Sandking, Venomancer, Lich, Magnataur, Deathprophet A lot of teams pick about 3-4 of those heroes above, and maybe pick some damage dealers, or serious pushers like clinkz, furion, razor to mop up gangbangs. | ||
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Yuljan
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StaSiS
United States147 Posts
On July 01 2005 23:36 NeoIllusions wrote: I prefer boots as first item because of greater mobility. It's much easier to snipe a hero early game when you can hit and run. Branches are a waste of gold. They add minor stats but you'll eventually have to sell them later on because they take up room. No good player will allow you to "snipe" their hero early game like that. Besides, the whole point of boots is to allow you to catch up to heroes running away, or to escape from a chasing hero. That's not going to happen early game, unless you or your opponent is really bad. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17238 Posts
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Yuljan
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snarl
Canada812 Posts
On July 02 2005 05:40 phiwha wrote: Rei, do you guys still play igs? My clan actually signed up, but because of their retarded system, we're just waiting for the next season to start. Anyways, if you're ever on east, come to channel: clan coda. We'll give you a good game anytime. mind if i drop by? getting sick of pubs | ||
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SwedishHero
Sweden869 Posts
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Kimmural
Canada1111 Posts
On July 02 2005 16:57 SwedishHero wrote: what is dot? Do you mean DOTA? It means Defence of the Ancients (i think) | ||
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phiwha
United States158 Posts
On July 02 2005 08:32 Yuljan wrote: clinkz is no pusher at all and use edit :O I said pusher/damage dealer ... and clinkz can be a great pusher with maelstrom, which personally I would always buy over stygian desolator. | ||
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oPtioNaLk
Korea (South)564 Posts
On July 02 2005 10:54 StaSiS wrote: No good player will allow you to "snipe" their hero early game like that. Besides, the whole point of boots is to allow you to catch up to heroes running away, or to escape from a chasing hero. That's not going to happen early game, unless you or your opponent is really bad. I think by "snipe" he meant harass. And if you think you can avoid all forms of harassment early-mid game you are totally wrong. In some cases harassment and forcing to heal can be more efficient than getting a kill in terms of denying exp (especially around lvls 1-5 where walking to and back from the fountain takes longer than dying and walking back). I'd say boots/ring of regen are probably the best items to begin with. | ||
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StaSiS
United States147 Posts
And I would take a kill over forcing someone to heal any day. Yes, they will probably get less xp if they have to go back and heal, but I also get more xp from their death and I get the money. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17238 Posts
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phiwha
United States158 Posts
On July 03 2005 07:59 Manit0u wrote: btw. can i drop by to this # @ azeroth of yours? I'm tired of pubbies too. oh, and we have a dota clan too but couldn't get any games so far because of the stupid arrangement things on #clan TDA there T_T sure, you're welcome anytime. Btw, to get into clan tda, you have to get an 'icon' (25 wins in ladder). | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17238 Posts
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Ramirez
France1 Post
Where can I buy a void stone or a ring of health? I don't find any in the 2 shop and the 2 vendors don't have any. | ||
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Bard
Jamaica898 Posts
On July 03 2005 17:58 Ramirez wrote: I'm a total neebie and I have an embarassing question: Where can I buy a void stone or a ring of health? I don't find any in the 2 shop and the 2 vendors don't have any. Hehe I was like you so don't be embarassed. That vendor is not in the base, you have to travel around little bit. It's hard to explain with word so why don't you run the game in single-custom play and type IseeDeadPeople. It will remove all fog from the map and you will find out those vendors who sell super items. | ||
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Bard
Jamaica898 Posts
As always the game started 5v5 then 1 left.. 1 left.. 1 left.. 1 left. So we played 3v4 for while. Since one of them was really strong and they rushed up to base tower. I thought the game was going to be ended. So I said gg but enemies replied 'the game is not end yet' I guess they wanted to play more :p So we kept playing. They had better items, better kills and better hero usage overall but we pushed more and we had more tower/building kills. Suddenly one of us left so it became 2v4. We kept playing a bit and we managed to siege their buildings but suddenly my only teammate left too. So it became eventually 1v4. I decided to do final rush, my main character Butcher (noob items + I sucked -_-)was attacking the east lane and I send Panda hero(better equipped) to the middle lane. Well my hero got killed and I declared gg. They were pushing top and bottom now. I looked Panda and surprisingly he pushed pretty good, him and creeps were rushed deep into the base. So I controled Panda and killed 2-3 enemy heroes in their base ^^ and started to banging the tree. When they realized they should've gone back.. it was too late. One of them called me noob :p for backdooring. So basically I won 1v4 at the end ^_^ my hero sucked but the object is destroying Tree right? It lasted almost 2 hours but it was fun overall | ||
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oPtioNaLk
Korea (South)564 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
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