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Izenra
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada679 Posts
May 15 2005 23:06 GMT
#1
Eh so I went to this Internet cafe with friend and they were all talking about DOTA. We ended up playing 8 straight hour a this warcraft 3 UMS. God this is fun!

However, there is a shitload of character that you can choose from and also a lot of item you can buy.

Anyone play this game? Anyway one strategy , or know which is the best character?
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-15 23:23:07
May 15 2005 23:21 GMT
#2
I wouldn't say there is a best character, but Fletcher, Maiden, Leoric, Jah'rakal, Centaur Warchief, Drow Ranger, Sniper, Naix, Zeus and probably a few others are all pretty good if you know how to use them.

Personally, I love Leoric. Whenever I play him, the other team is lucky to get more than a kill or two on me the whole game. He's very newbie-friendly, but is a monster if you know how to use him.

But Naix is seriously invincible if you know how to use him, because once he gets high-level, he's literally untouchable. It's getting there that's the problem.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
Square Bear
Profile Joined February 2004
Bahamas266 Posts
May 16 2005 00:27 GMT
#3
Bounty Hunter is one of my favorites. I fear him more than I do Fletcher. And Tinker is just so fun to kill heroes early game.
If the spirit moves ya. Let me groove ya.
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
May 16 2005 01:08 GMT
#4
Naix is really imbalanced right now.

I have never ever seen a hero take on 4 other heroes AT THE SAME TIME and walk off like nothing happened. At a high level his natural agility is like 100+ points (excluding bonuses) so that gives him around 15 natural armor. With the bonuses and items that becomes 20 armor, so around 55% damage reduction. He's fucking sick.

However the only hero that kicks his ass is Stealth Assassin. 800 damage criticals and 24% evasion will take naix down.

All heroes in general are very good if you know how to use them. Some heroes are easier to use than others but it's more the player than the hero.

DOTA > WAR3

its not even funny. Its not uncommon to see an entire page of UMS wiht only dota games.
We decide our own destiny
Prawned
Profile Joined August 2004
United Kingdom794 Posts
May 16 2005 01:44 GMT
#5
I never understood the hype about this map. I played it a few times and it was ok. I don't get how people can keep playing this map over and over and over. Is there anything I'm missing?
KillerPenguin
Profile Joined June 2004
United States516 Posts
May 16 2005 04:53 GMT
#6
If you only played it a few times than you probably sucked. This game is awesome. Particularly because there are so many different strategies. I've stopped playing sc because of DOTA. There are deff some chars that are better than others, particularly end game chars that get great at the end like naix, but a lot of it depends on how good you micro/use spells, what items you get to benefit the type of character you have, and knowledge of what the opposing characters can do to you. Personal favorite items are dagon, helm of dominator, and mkb with lich and sand king as fav characters.
http://www.escapeintolife.com/
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
May 16 2005 04:54 GMT
#7
On May 16 2005 10:08 Tien wrote:
Naix is really imbalanced right now.

I have never ever seen a hero take on 4 other heroes AT THE SAME TIME and walk off like nothing happened. At a high level his natural agility is like 100+ points (excluding bonuses) so that gives him around 15 natural armor. With the bonuses and items that becomes 20 armor, so around 55% damage reduction. He's fucking sick.

However the only hero that kicks his ass is Stealth Assassin. 800 damage criticals and 24% evasion will take naix down.

All heroes in general are very good if you know how to use them. Some heroes are easier to use than others but it's more the player than the hero.

DOTA > WAR3

its not even funny. Its not uncommon to see an entire page of UMS wiht only dota games.


Sadly, that's not an exaggeration of Naix at all =]

I've seen games where I'll have this totally pimped out character, like level 20's already, and then this little Naix comes running up and kills me AND my entire team while I'm at the well.

You can't even run because of his poison. I think that definitely needs some kind of a nerf, and probably his skill that works like vampiric aura, its just a little too strong late-game.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic931 Posts
May 16 2005 05:07 GMT
#8
well i loved most 5.84c
never too old for starcraft :)
waa
Profile Joined March 2005
289 Posts
May 16 2005 05:14 GMT
#9
On May 16 2005 10:08 Tien wrote:
DOTA > WAR3


so true
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
May 16 2005 05:20 GMT
#10
stop playing allstars! play a balanced map! dota 3.7 / dota at edition on ROC
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
May 16 2005 05:22 GMT
#11
On May 16 2005 10:08 Tien wrote:
Naix is really imbalanced right now.

I have never ever seen a hero take on 4 other heroes AT THE SAME TIME and walk off like nothing happened. At a high level his natural agility is like 100+ points (excluding bonuses) so that gives him around 15 natural armor. With the bonuses and items that becomes 20 armor, so around 55% damage reduction. He's fucking sick.

However the only hero that kicks his ass is Stealth Assassin. 800 damage criticals and 24% evasion will take naix down.

All heroes in general are very good if you know how to use them. Some heroes are easier to use than others but it's more the player than the hero.

DOTA > WAR3

its not even funny. Its not uncommon to see an entire page of UMS wiht only dota games.


in private games no naix will get to that level without getting very much help from his team. Naix is only godly in public with some newbs feeding him or nukers dont know how to take care of him. Also 20% dmg backthrow dunno how that armor is called can help eliminate his life leech and with his low hp he should be killable.
Izenra
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada679 Posts
May 16 2005 05:25 GMT
#12
The only thing I wanna do is to pwn my friend ass off!

I will try that Naix off. What are his ability?

First time I played, bounty hunter was always chasing me ( I was anti-mage)

Maiden ( if it's the blue shirt, blond girl mage) was freaking pwning everyone with her mass freeze spell.

I saw king loric( the undead) at 3000 hp! That insane!


But , I don't know if they are on the bottom or upper side, so What is the best for upper and bottom side?
KillerPenguin
Profile Joined June 2004
United States516 Posts
May 16 2005 06:24 GMT
#13
almost all games are ap or ar. ap u can pick from the other side. ar u will get random heroes from the other side. The reason leoric and naix are good are the vamp aura that gives them hp to about 40% of their attack. It can be stopped cold with a few nukes. 3rd lvl demon witch and lina do 1k damage specials.
http://www.escapeintolife.com/
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
May 16 2005 07:07 GMT
#14
So its basicly a RTS game within a RTS?
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
Izenra
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada679 Posts
May 16 2005 08:27 GMT
#15
RPG within RTS
oPtioNaLk
Profile Joined September 2004
Korea (South)564 Posts
May 16 2005 09:47 GMT
#16
Actually with the new version of DOTA, Naix isn't so great anymore. Blademail > Naix.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17238 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-16 16:25:43
May 16 2005 16:19 GMT
#17
On May 16 2005 10:08 Tien wrote:
Naix is really imbalanced right now.

I have never ever seen a hero take on 4 other heroes AT THE SAME TIME and walk off like nothing happened. At a high level his natural agility is like 100+ points (excluding bonuses) so that gives him around 15 natural armor. With the bonuses and items that becomes 20 armor, so around 55% damage reduction. He's fucking sick.

However the only hero that kicks his ass is Stealth Assassin. 800 damage criticals and 24% evasion will take naix down.

All heroes in general are very good if you know how to use them. Some heroes are easier to use than others but it's more the player than the hero.

DOTA > WAR3

its not even funny. Its not uncommon to see an entire page of UMS wiht only dota games.


800 dmg crit is poor

Top 10 chars imo:

1. Venomancer (I always repick him though since he's too imba)
2. Lich (with aghanim it's pure pwnage)
3. Zeus
4. Fletcher
5. Razor
6. Leoric
7. Crystal maiden
8. Gambler (my fav char ^_^)
9. Nightstalker (at night he's able to kill absolutely everything without much sweat)
10. Vengeful spirit

It's only my opinion on this chars and I like to play them all except veno and zeus (it goes far too easy with them)

If anyone would like to make your oponents cry just make the game -ap, pick venomancer, go for this item that gives you windwalk (don't remember the name now) + mkb + buriza and just windwalk right where there is most oponents and launch pnova, shadowstrike and kill them all cuz they won't be able to escape you (and when things start to go bad you can always ww to safety).
I hate veno :/
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
s4rkish
Profile Joined May 2005
Philippines2 Posts
May 16 2005 18:23 GMT
#18
version 5.84c remains to be the most popular map in the inet cafe where I'm playing...

Every character can own once you know the weakness of the other chars and the strength of yours. Also remember that DOTA is a team game...

In 5.84c, the strongest scourge hero would definitely medusa. When a good player is controlling it, it would require the whole team to kill it. It's so powerful that in team games or in clan matches, a clan can just farm and feed medusa items and it alone will carry the team. One team popularly called the "wave team" comprises of akasha, medusa, time stopper, and magnataur. Basically, time stopper and akasha farm for medusa's items. Magnataur is there to empower medusa. When it times in team battles, time stopper time stops then magnataur goes through and rev pols and everyone launches their aoe spells. Most agi and int heroes would die through this and if anyone lives, medusa will just chop them. At late game when they afforded to buy a bkb at least, medusa would be too powerful to control since she has received the blessings of her teammates. This strat is too effective and powerful that when they held a tournament, they imposed a rule to "weaken" medusa in a way but she still is powerful

For senti, it would be sven. It's the only hero that can be capable of taking down a well fed medusa singlehandedly.

In 5.84c, they are the two most poweful heroes for each side. 6.0 remains to be a weird map because of the new additions but certainly it does address the things needed to be balanced like medusa and ultimate gay item "manta style."
stfu k
Izenra
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada679 Posts
May 16 2005 22:09 GMT
#19
I played medusa , I became powerful, but the freaking maiden was always lowering my hp to 500, to I had to get back.

Although I had a freakky good time owning player : I attack then until they have 500 hp less. They run aways, attack for 200, long range chain bolt for 300, die.

The narrator was always saying ; YOU ARE GOD!! PWNED!!

I killed at least 30 times, and die 3 time.

Although I am better than my friend and medusa took at while to level up.
smurfingchobo
Profile Joined April 2004
833 Posts
May 16 2005 22:15 GMT
#20
I don't really follow War3 or anything related to it, but this "Dota" thing sounds fun

Can someone explain what this is all about?
Teach me PvZ~
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