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Fallacy
United States227 Posts
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Blade Fox
United States215 Posts
On October 07 2011 00:22 ZeroCartin wrote: I am downloading and told all my friends. We are super psyched about this!! :DD That's great to hear! Hopefully a few veterans check it out, it may be old but it's unique that's why I still am enjoying it even after 4 years of not touching it haha | ||
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ZeroCartin
Costa Rica2390 Posts
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
Playin a mage named Arthann | ||
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
moved from Iro to animaro and stayed there till it collapsed(RIP debbie)\ then i bounced around from server to server making my mark then moving on. unfortunately the Ro scene today is nothing compared to the old days. personally i feel renewal has striped away alot of the magic that made Ro what it was. before renewal there would be LOTS of different builds that were all viable in their own right. now alot of them have become null and void because it doesnt matter if your build lets you have that extra 10 strength to get that attack bonus. if you have the better weapon you do more damage..... i miss Ro more then anything. but if i came back to it i think it would ruin alot of the good memories i have of that game. i hope one day that when Ro2 comes out. it can capture that magic that gave Ro the legacy it had. | ||
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BnK
United States538 Posts
well my server didn't nerve EDP sigh. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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TyrantPotato
Australia1541 Posts
On October 08 2011 18:25 Tachion wrote: Did they ever fix all the botting, or is that still ridiculously rampant like back in the day? ymir (the p2p server) doesnt have many bots and the economy is driven by the players. however since three servers were merged into one. the amount of top tier items that flood this server is ALOT. population around 700 peak 950~ yggdrasil is the newest server. more bots then ymir but not that bad. since its a new server the prices of everything are inflated quite a bit. cant remember if you have to pay to play this server, i think its free but not sure. population is around 850 peaking at 1050 then ther eis valkyrie. which is the bt ridden server. the entire economy (well 80% of it) is run by bots. sure alot get banned, but they get replaced before you can even tell they're gone. about 1/3 of the server is bots/merchants. but with a population of 2750 peaking at around 3400 in the day. even with a bot economy its still a good choice if you want a large community to play with. ah. reminising again. must stay away from Ro T.T | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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Khi
Germany188 Posts
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BrTarolg
United Kingdom3574 Posts
On October 08 2011 18:00 BnK wrote: I remember when I was playing LK it's so hard to get my build right for PvP, while sinx's would just get +7 infi and EDP OHKO me anyway :/ well my server didn't nerve EDP sigh. lol edp was never OP Teamwork is OP in RO I guess you could say that in high level RO, LK was the most useless class because they cant do enough damage, and whilst they can survive anything they are usually a waste of a party slot We had one guy who was skilled at LK, but he eventually just switched to pally because he had a tao gunka card Sinx's seem OP because bad players generally don't have enough game knowledge/gear to deal with them. We actually phased out of sinx's simply because they wern't good enough. A decently geared + buffed sinx would be able to do a raw of 90k damage EDP, which would get reduced to 60k through linknerf, which then gets reduced pretty much to about 10k in WoE given barebone equips, and then gets FURTHER reduced to about 6k when you are properly buffed/geared Sinx's were basically great at taking out de-geared and de-buffed players, and this is even including the fact we ran stuff like ring of nibleheim etc. Compare this to our hwiz's, that had stormgusts of 120k DPS when properly geared, or our asura champs, which had a 200k asura (which will onehit almost anything except for pallies really) Grimtooth was amazing though because it was status+ranged+AoE+immune to animation stun, and does more DPS than sonic blow Eventually however we just started running 14 sharpshooters and 4 AD creo's. Thing is it means your no longer restricted by range on your DPS cap. Even though each sharpshoot does a reduced of about 3k, taking 45k reduced DPS is totally impossible to out-pot because you will eventually run out of berries from weightcap Oh and yeah, if you can't oneshot people, then theres no point in running EDP, because then all it takes is one berry or a couple of potions and you've outpotted it | ||
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BnK
United States538 Posts
so yeah it's server problem not the class | ||
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mrgoochio
United States557 Posts
On October 08 2011 17:43 TyrantPotato wrote: i played Ro back in the days before trans. moved from Iro to animaro and stayed there till it collapsed(RIP debbie)\ then i bounced around from server to server making my mark then moving on. unfortunately the Ro scene today is nothing compared to the old days. personally i feel renewal has striped away alot of the magic that made Ro what it was. before renewal there would be LOTS of different builds that were all viable in their own right. now alot of them have become null and void because it doesnt matter if your build lets you have that extra 10 strength to get that attack bonus. if you have the better weapon you do more damage..... i miss Ro more then anything. but if i came back to it i think it would ruin alot of the good memories i have of that game. i hope one day that when Ro2 comes out. it can capture that magic that gave Ro the legacy it had. Lol RO2 came out years ago. It was shit and was scrapped before it even got outa beta | ||
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Vestrel
Canada271 Posts
On October 08 2011 20:35 mrgoochio wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 08 2011 17:43 TyrantPotato wrote: i played Ro back in the days before trans. moved from Iro to animaro and stayed there till it collapsed(RIP debbie)\ then i bounced around from server to server making my mark then moving on. unfortunately the Ro scene today is nothing compared to the old days. personally i feel renewal has striped away alot of the magic that made Ro what it was. before renewal there would be LOTS of different builds that were all viable in their own right. now alot of them have become null and void because it doesnt matter if your build lets you have that extra 10 strength to get that attack bonus. if you have the better weapon you do more damage..... i miss Ro more then anything. but if i came back to it i think it would ruin alot of the good memories i have of that game. i hope one day that when Ro2 comes out. it can capture that magic that gave Ro the legacy it had. Lol RO2 came out years ago. It was shit and was scrapped before it even got outa beta I was disappointed when I saw screenshots/gameplay videos for RO2: Gate of the World beta, but I'm still hoping for Legend of the Second to be ok :/ | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
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Blade Fox
United States215 Posts
A few good sites for those who are trying it out: http://ragial.com/market This site is great it shows all the items currently on sale on whatever server you choose using the drop down on the right. It shows you if it's overpriced or underpriced too so you can find deals. It's got a nice search function too if you're a newbie and dont know if you have something expensive to sell. http://irowiki.org/wiki/Main_Page This site is the epicenter of up to date information too, | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On October 08 2011 18:34 TyrantPotato wrote: ymir (the p2p server) doesnt have many bots and the economy is driven by the players. however since three servers were merged into one. the amount of top tier items that flood this server is ALOT. population around 700 peak 950~ yggdrasil is the newest server. more bots then ymir but not that bad. since its a new server the prices of everything are inflated quite a bit. cant remember if you have to pay to play this server, i think its free but not sure. population is around 850 peaking at 1050 then ther eis valkyrie. which is the bt ridden server. the entire economy (well 80% of it) is run by bots. sure alot get banned, but they get replaced before you can even tell they're gone. about 1/3 of the server is bots/merchants. but with a population of 2750 peaking at around 3400 in the day. even with a bot economy its still a good choice if you want a large community to play with. ah. reminising again. must stay away from Ro T.T you have a link by chance? i googled, searched the usual sites (ratemyserver, xtremetop100 etc.) but i cant find them .... all i find is some shitty HR server that is called valkyrie.. | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On October 08 2011 19:23 BrTarolg wrote: lol edp was never OP Teamwork is OP in RO I guess you could say that in high level RO, LK was the most useless class because they cant do enough damage, and whilst they can survive anything they are usually a waste of a party slot We had one guy who was skilled at LK, but he eventually just switched to pally because he had a tao gunka card Sinx's seem OP because bad players generally don't have enough game knowledge/gear to deal with them. We actually phased out of sinx's simply because they wern't good enough. A decently geared + buffed sinx would be able to do a raw of 90k damage EDP, which would get reduced to 60k through linknerf, which then gets reduced pretty much to about 10k in WoE given barebone equips, and then gets FURTHER reduced to about 6k when you are properly buffed/geared Sinx's were basically great at taking out de-geared and de-buffed players, and this is even including the fact we ran stuff like ring of nibleheim etc. Compare this to our hwiz's, that had stormgusts of 120k DPS when properly geared, or our asura champs, which had a 200k asura (which will onehit almost anything except for pallies really) Grimtooth was amazing though because it was status+ranged+AoE+immune to animation stun, and does more DPS than sonic blow Eventually however we just started running 14 sharpshooters and 4 AD creo's. Thing is it means your no longer restricted by range on your DPS cap. Even though each sharpshoot does a reduced of about 3k, taking 45k reduced DPS is totally impossible to out-pot because you will eventually run out of berries from weightcap Oh and yeah, if you can't oneshot people, then theres no point in running EDP, because then all it takes is one berry or a couple of potions and you've outpotted it EDP isn't OP in WoE due to the -40% skill damage, the fact that the frontline is always devo'd, and also the precast between the LPs, which makes it impossible for random SinXs to come in and SB you. Anyway, Champs are better to dive and do OHKO nukes than SinXs. SinX in modern high level WoEs are reduced to being emp breakers and repair/assault on the stone things (mental blank). Most guilds have decent profs and champs who will not let you Grimtooth their guild and just HD you out or ruwach snap asura snap back to LP. Anyway high level modern WoE presupposes that everyone is using autoscripts/macros, have got optimal gear (other than boss cards) including equips, cards and consumables like boxes, food, speed pots and other buffs. Given the evolution of WoE, individual skill has become pretty unimportant compared with guild teamplay, leadership, having the right classes, having the right third party programs and scripts, and very importantly, having a fast computer and low ping (faster spam with AHK yo). The golden age of WoE when people played for fun, theorycrafting was still primitive and not everyone had a devo/all status immunities, has long passed. On the topic of LKs, well, they are pretty much useless in the modern metagame. They can't tank, they can't burst, they have no utility. They can only bumrush your LP and hope they don't get focused beforehand. Having said that though, I dislike the sharpshoot sniper guild comp because it's too focused on kiting and a strong LK comp (coincidentally) can easily dive and rape it. There's just not enough single target burst with the sharpshoot strat. Instead, I actually prefer FA snipers over it since they can do a lot of single target dps on a creo or hwiz without reductions, due to aspd song, agi stats, zerk pitch and bragi of course. You'd be surprised how fast creos and hwiz drop (since they've gotten so glass cannony in current metagame) if your prof can catch them with a dispel. TLDR: modern trans WoE is boring for players who wanna rape face; it's gotten very tactical and team-based. Also LKs are probably the only underpowered job in the current metagame, and sharpshoot strat is a gimmicky thing that somehow took hold in pinoy servers but is actually very dodgy and easy to counte (offensive LP and bumrush (possibly with LK even) too OP). | ||
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Blade Fox
United States215 Posts
On October 09 2011 23:44 teddyoojo wrote: you have a link by chance? i googled, searched the usual sites (ratemyserver, xtremetop100 etc.) but i cant find them .... all i find is some shitty HR server that is called valkyrie.. As I posted in the first thread maybe I didnt link properly, all those servers he listed are the 'new' renamed servers for official Ragnarok Servers not private servers. http://www.playragnarok.com/ Ymir is all the old servers merged. That means if you played when "Chaos" "Loki" "Iris" and "Sakray" were the main servers they were ALL merged to 'Ymir' Ymir is the server I play on, you can only make character if you buy VIP but if you had characters on Chaos/Loki/Iris/Sakray you will have all of them merged on to Ymir now. Yggdrasil is a new server that opened this year, hosted officially by gravity too. It just opened recently but anyone can make characters there. Valkyrie is totally free and is an official server too. However it's ridden with bots and spam bots and is absolutely packed out of all the servers. It's always got 3000-4000 people online at all times. If you go click on this banner it takes you straight to a registration page that lets you access these servers. Also it helps me a little bit as it will be a refer a friend type bonus. ![[image loading]](http://img.warpportal.com/banner/wp/fr/bn3_ro.jpg) or if you're not interested in helping me out: http://www.playragnarok.com/ Enjoy! | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
btw i started on yggdrasil, but its REALLY laggy.. is that normal or is it my side? ( I DO NOT THINK THAT) | ||
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