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Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
September 06 2011 20:04 GMT
#81
I actually don't know why they would do this, HoN is nowhere near as popular as LoL both competitively and casually, and DotA 2 is almost out. Just seems weird timing.
srsly
Presidenten
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden777 Posts
September 06 2011 20:05 GMT
#82
On September 07 2011 04:53 AndChe wrote:
omg! HoN??...

Add LoL it's better.


HoN is waaaaay better for competitive gaming, IMO.
LoL is more beginner friendly and because of that (and Riot's aggressive marketing), it has a larger player base. Hence, it has a larger audience when it comes to spectating games etc, so yeah, maybe LoL would be better in terms of bringing in money for the tournament organizer, but HoN is far superior when it comes to gameplay.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 06 2011 20:06 GMT
#83
On September 07 2011 03:53 RajaF wrote:
Well, sorry if it's old news. I could not find anything related to it.

I guess then it's news that this is a CNBC article. This is as mainstream media as it gets.


they copy pasted a press release onto their website, I wouldn't get too excited about that.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
September 06 2011 20:06 GMT
#84
Whilst I'm happy for the players of HoN and the developers, I feel that it HoN's competitive scene doesn't have much of a foot to stand on. I was at Gamescom in Cologne, and the difference between the audience sizes of LoL and HoN were enormous. Where maybe a maximum of 50 people were watching HoN, at least a thousand were watching the mainstage finals, along with at least 300 for the semis/3rd place match.

It's a staggering difference, and even DotA2's crowd was multiple sizes bigger than HoN's. It might be a really good competitive game to play, but there are several problems.
S2 is even worse of a developer for the competitive scene than Riot, the community is even worse than LoL's (which is already multitudes worse than SC2's community), and it's not a very accessible game for people who want to get into it. Things are not very clear for a first time viewer, and a first time viewer will get easily bored because of it (I did, watched a match at the HoN booth). LoL has a very clear graphical style, which makes everything that happens on screen a bit easier to understand.

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Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
September 06 2011 20:07 GMT
#85
I would have prefered them to wait for DotA 2 but still why not.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
RajaF
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada530 Posts
September 06 2011 20:08 GMT
#86
On September 07 2011 05:06 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 03:53 RajaF wrote:
Well, sorry if it's old news. I could not find anything related to it.

I guess then it's news that this is a CNBC article. This is as mainstream media as it gets.


they copy pasted a press release onto their website, I wouldn't get too excited about that.


It's better than nothing man. I mean, it's CNBC which means that even if 20% of their audience clicks on the link SC2 gets an extra couple millions of views.
Schnullerbacke13
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1199 Posts
September 06 2011 20:08 GMT
#87
idn, hon seems so boring to watch for me ..
21 is half the truth
P0ckets
Profile Joined January 2011
United States430 Posts
September 06 2011 20:10 GMT
#88
Dumb, IMO, these moba games and it;s current trend of popularity will die off as soon as the money dries up. As a spectator sport it is hard to follow due to it's complexity and due to the multiplayer aspect it is terrible since you miss the majority of what happens unless there is an epicenter of action. which only happens every so often in the game.
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
September 06 2011 20:10 GMT
#89
This is a terrible idea because hon is not a good enough game to do it with. Its a bad investment. Now lets say that it was Dota 2 I would have a different opinion.
if you can believe you can concieve
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
September 06 2011 20:12 GMT
#90
What worries me the most is that there are a lot of MOBA games competing for the #1 spot and I don't know which one it will be but I doubt it will be HON. I can see either LoL or DoTA 2 taking the crown but as for HoN not so much.
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
September 06 2011 20:13 GMT
#91
On September 07 2011 05:12 Aegeis wrote:
What worries me the most is that there are a lot of MOBA games competing for the #1 spot and I don't know which one it will be but I doubt it will be HON. I can see either LoL or DoTA 2 taking the crown but as for HoN not so much.

I agree... but it's disappointing because dota 2 seems to just be a copy of dota1 =/
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
September 06 2011 20:17 GMT
#92
Well I guess to survive, they need to expand. Honestly I don't like it and I won't support it. But I also won't try to murder it, it is an ESPORT comparable to Starcraft 2.
ponyo.848
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 06 2011 20:19 GMT
#93
Well, kind of glad that they seem to have learned a little bit from sc2 in season 1. Now they first hand out some money to the teams through some showmatches, so that they can afford the flight to the grand finals.

The question remains why they cannot do this in sc2 as well... <.<
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
September 06 2011 20:19 GMT
#94
On September 07 2011 05:13 Vei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 05:12 Aegeis wrote:
What worries me the most is that there are a lot of MOBA games competing for the #1 spot and I don't know which one it will be but I doubt it will be HON. I can see either LoL or DoTA 2 taking the crown but as for HoN not so much.

I agree... but it's disappointing because dota 2 seems to just be a copy of dota1 =/


Don't have a source to back me up, but pretty certain it's just dota1 with it's own engine instead of being inside wc3.
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
September 06 2011 20:20 GMT
#95
Kinda meh news to me. If it gets them more viewers and helps them to expand then I guess it's ok for them, but I personally ain't gonna watch it, even tho I prefer hon over LoL. Lets just hope they make the switch to dota 2 when it comes out.
Zomodok
Profile Joined September 2010
United States41 Posts
September 06 2011 20:22 GMT
#96
I kinda chuckled at the "LoL takes more skill" comment and the bunch of LoL's talking as if HoN is dead.

HoN is pretty much an exact DotA clone. It relies on players skill and a knowledge of the game to know which hero benefits from which item. It doesn't rely on idiotic "Summoner talent trees" or a lack of killing creeps like LoL does. The only reason that LoL is as popular as it is, was due to a huge ad campaign and the game being free* (limited heroes)

So you have a bunch of young kids who can't afford to buy real games playing a free game and finding it's actually kind of fun, while all of the original DotA players moved to HoN where denying was still considered a "feature" and everything rested more on the player and their knowledge.

Like a poster above said, HoN isn't "dead", it just doesn't get the same amount of numbers that LoL does, and since the F2P system was added, actually seen a rise in people playing it.

But what do I know, this is just typical gaming forum "discussion" where people make up facts and spew nonsense and then get upset when called on it and start an idiotic flame war.

See; BF3/MW3, PS3/360, Any Game ever/Any other game ever.

FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
September 06 2011 20:23 GMT
#97
On September 07 2011 05:19 vicariouscheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 05:13 Vei wrote:
On September 07 2011 05:12 Aegeis wrote:
What worries me the most is that there are a lot of MOBA games competing for the #1 spot and I don't know which one it will be but I doubt it will be HON. I can see either LoL or DoTA 2 taking the crown but as for HoN not so much.

I agree... but it's disappointing because dota 2 seems to just be a copy of dota1 =/


Don't have a source to back me up, but pretty certain it's just dota1 with it's own engine instead of being inside wc3.


You hit the nail on the head.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 06 2011 20:25 GMT
#98
More money for E-Sports. Fantastic.

Happy thoughts! Happy thoughts!
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Tomfour
Profile Joined September 2010
United States173 Posts
September 06 2011 20:25 GMT
#99
Well they still refer to themselves as the NASL? Although S just stands for Star, I don't really see how that pertains to HoN in any really significant way. It would be like Starcraft being part of some tournament circuit called NAHL, the North American Heroes League(or something similar, I don't feel like putting that much thought into something that nobody is probably going to see). Which although you could craft some sort of correlation, it wouldn't be all that relevant.
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
September 06 2011 20:25 GMT
#100
What a strange move. I don't follow the moba scene but LoL has a much bigger community and Dota 2 seems like it'll be huge as well. HoN just appears to be the lowest common denominator in terms of viewership. o_O
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