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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
September 06 2011 21:06 GMT
#121
No matter where you name either LOL or HoN, you will get ppl argue and constantly bash the other side.
The funny thing is, this is actually hurting the game since there are ppl who simply don't wanna be a part of that kind of community and stay off the games because of that reason.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
September 06 2011 21:07 GMT
#122
On September 07 2011 06:06 Assirra wrote:
No matter where you name either LOL or HoN, you will get ppl argue and constantly bash the other side.
The funny thing is, this is actually hurting the game since there are ppl who simply don't wanna be a part of that kind of community and stay off the games because of that reason.

Agreed...it would be nice if people could unite like the fighting game community does...sad...
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
September 06 2011 21:13 GMT
#123
Hilarious amount of people in this thread have no idea about HoN's competitive scene, and it's getting added to IPL and MLG as well as the 7 figure HoNtour so...after LoL's disaster at Raleigh hopefully we stop seeing that awful competitive game in tournaments and zhoN reigns supreme at least until Dota2 comes out.
Axero
Profile Joined September 2011
United States307 Posts
September 06 2011 21:13 GMT
#124
On September 07 2011 06:07 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 06:06 Assirra wrote:
No matter where you name either LOL or HoN, you will get ppl argue and constantly bash the other side.
The funny thing is, this is actually hurting the game since there are ppl who simply don't wanna be a part of that kind of community and stay off the games because of that reason.

Agreed...it would be nice if people could unite like the fighting game community does...sad...


Hoping the DotA 2 community improves from past communities of the same genre. I don't think we're ever going to see LoL/HoN/DotA players uniting like other communities though, unfortunately. But, it's a good reason for people new to the games to come to TL.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 06 2011 21:14 GMT
#125
On September 07 2011 03:52 crms wrote:
HoN > LoL

but seems silly to add this with dota 2 around the corner. I hope they don't have any sort of exclusive contract that is for too long. HoN is going to be wiped off the earth when Dota 2 is released.



it seems silly to test the waters using a popular, existing title? seems sensible to me. dota2's relative success is a gamble, just like any game (except SC2 lol, that was a guarantee), leagues like MLG and NASL adding titles like this will give them some indication of the genre's popularity, and get their staff comfortable with running a moba tournament
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
September 06 2011 21:16 GMT
#126
Nice to see NASL pick up HoN since it's a great game. I personally would rather see HoN than LoL since LoL is kinda boring to play and watch (to me). Lets see how long this will last since DotA 2 beta is suppose to start around fall of this year.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 21:23:58
September 06 2011 21:20 GMT
#127
I dont get this move. Right now HoN is nothing compared to LoL in terms of playernumbers and audience and when DotA 2 comes out, HoN is just going to die. Hopefully the NASL gets good money for this. GL with the season.
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RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
September 06 2011 21:21 GMT
#128
On September 07 2011 06:14 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 03:52 crms wrote:
HoN > LoL

but seems silly to add this with dota 2 around the corner. I hope they don't have any sort of exclusive contract that is for too long. HoN is going to be wiped off the earth when Dota 2 is released.



it seems silly to test the waters using a popular, existing title? seems sensible to me. dota2's relative success is a gamble, just like any game (except SC2 lol, that was a guarantee), leagues like MLG and NASL adding titles like this will give them some indication of the genre's popularity, and get their staff comfortable with running a moba tournament



Dota2s relative success is a gamble, but SC2s was guaranteed? I think you're way off on that one.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
September 06 2011 21:25 GMT
#129
What the fuck....

WHY?

I mean, yeah I know they want to expand, but why HoN? Why not something more similar to Starcraft like WC3 or something?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
September 06 2011 21:36 GMT
#130
On September 07 2011 05:06 Doctorbeat wrote:
Whilst I'm happy for the players of HoN and the developers, I feel that it HoN's competitive scene doesn't have much of a foot to stand on. I was at Gamescom in Cologne, and the difference between the audience sizes of LoL and HoN were enormous. Where maybe a maximum of 50 people were watching HoN, at least a thousand were watching the mainstage finals, along with at least 300 for the semis/3rd place match.

It's a staggering difference, and even DotA2's crowd was multiple sizes bigger than HoN's. It might be a really good competitive game to play, but there are several problems.
S2 is even worse of a developer for the competitive scene than Riot, the community is even worse than LoL's (which is already multitudes worse than SC2's community), and it's not a very accessible game for people who want to get into it. Things are not very clear for a first time viewer, and a first time viewer will get easily bored because of it (I did, watched a match at the HoN booth). LoL has a very clear graphical style, which makes everything that happens on screen a bit easier to understand.



Well if we're going off pure numbers, TL should probably drop SC2 and become a Call of Duty website. It's way more competitive of a game if we're judging it by how many fans it has.

Also commenting on the "graphical styles" of either game is just completely opinion. Just because you've played one a lot and took a glance at another doesn't give you a credible source of saying which one is easier to watch.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
September 06 2011 21:37 GMT
#131
On September 07 2011 06:25 57 Corvette wrote:
What the fuck....

WHY?

I mean, yeah I know they want to expand, but why HoN? Why not something more similar to Starcraft like WC3 or something?

The WC3 scene outside of China is practically dead. SC2 is the only popular RTS right now, while DotA games are really popular right now.
Rbd
Profile Joined July 2011
19 Posts
September 06 2011 21:37 GMT
#132
Seems silly to me since HoN is essentially a carbon copy of a much more established and active competitive game, and will get crushed when they newest carbon copy of the same game is released. HoN is dead, although if S2 are putting the money forward NASL aren't going to lose anything by running it.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 06 2011 21:41 GMT
#133
On September 07 2011 06:21 RumZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 06:14 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On September 07 2011 03:52 crms wrote:
HoN > LoL

but seems silly to add this with dota 2 around the corner. I hope they don't have any sort of exclusive contract that is for too long. HoN is going to be wiped off the earth when Dota 2 is released.



it seems silly to test the waters using a popular, existing title? seems sensible to me. dota2's relative success is a gamble, just like any game (except SC2 lol, that was a guarantee), leagues like MLG and NASL adding titles like this will give them some indication of the genre's popularity, and get their staff comfortable with running a moba tournament



Dota2s relative success is a gamble, but SC2s was guaranteed? I think you're way off on that one.


no, no, a relative success within their league, not the game will sell a bazillion copies. context.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
3DGlaDOS
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany607 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 21:52:29
September 06 2011 21:49 GMT
#134
I'm glad they picked HoN after I had to watch LoL at IEM.
S2 just made such an awesome game, I don't wanna bash LoL.
Good step, maybe HoN still can grow after they were forced to make it f2p-ish because of LoL/DOTA2.
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elementz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States281 Posts
September 06 2011 22:06 GMT
#135
On September 07 2011 05:10 P0ckets wrote:
Dumb, IMO, these moba games and it;s current trend of popularity will die off as soon as the money dries up. As a spectator sport it is hard to follow due to it's complexity and due to the multiplayer aspect it is terrible since you miss the majority of what happens unless there is an epicenter of action. which only happens every so often in the game.



God most people here talk out of their ass for something they have no Idea about, DotA has been a MOD(yes a MOD not its stand-alone game) for WC3 and gets millions of downloads on playdota.com whenever a new patch was released, with more millions in China that play on private VPN, yet it still hasn't died as competitive esport or game, the attention on it was about as much as it was on BW really none existent because it was so old (China still has a hard on for it like Korea for BW--a DotA team was bought for 6million dollars in China). As LoL success has shown it is a very good genre of game (you like LoL or not people like the genre), money for the tournaments by the companies is coming out of their promotion budget and these companies spend a lot on promotion, a tournament for 1mil is a lot better than the ad I am looking at right now for LoL (yes as I am typing this there is a LoL add on TL--I have my adblock disabled on TL <3), heck blizzard did the same they still to this date sponsor GOMTV for GSL, however SC2 thanks to that was embraced (same for LoL-and HoN on a smaller scale--with tournaments like IEM/ESL DH including them in their LAN), has Riot/S2 helped these companies decide by covering the risks for this investment, yes they have and maybe more than just the "risks" but the genre--I hate calling it MOBA since I am a DotA player --is here to stay and DotA2 will be the pinnacle and with Riot and Valve throwing promotion money to esports I have nothing to complain about.

Valve maybe does the same thing for CS:GO, and puts up a 1mil tournament for it, that will be amazing and Activizion putting a 1mil CoD tourney is also cool, even though I hate CoD and consoles (can't wait for CS:GO !!!!!!!! the games that can handle the heat will stay as esports other games will disappear as esports after the promotion money is gone, even though it doesn't have to stop, since these games have on going profit model as suppose to buy once model, DotA2 will probably be like TF2, buy to play with hats and later on maybe f2p with more hats (also with steamworks and being able to stream directly on dota2.com with build in functionality in the client for easy stream set up, where valve takes a bit of the pie and pays you for your work as well like justin.tv).


Bottom line, DotA has lived on its own without any help from Blizzard/Valve/insertpublisherhere and with the help of a publisher and refined graphics it can blow up even bigger considering it is more social game than SC2, most of the time with my friends we play DotA instead of SC2 because we want to play together and we hate 4v4--any thing other than 1v1 sucks considering the game is balanced around it and everything else is unbalanced.
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Okiesmokie
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada379 Posts
September 06 2011 22:11 GMT
#136
On September 07 2011 04:12 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 04:05 zeru wrote:
On September 07 2011 04:02 JinDesu wrote:
If they add it, they should change their name lol

...why?


Because with the addition of HON, it's not longer just a "Star League"

I find it pretty sad that even NASL doesn't realise that the "Star" in the Korean Star Leagues means Starcraft. Incontrol was talking about it before and saying how NASL wasn't just going to be an average starcraft league, but a star league instead. I had to facepalm at that.
CooDu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia899 Posts
September 06 2011 22:18 GMT
#137
HoN feels more competitive to me. I'd say it would have to be one of the biggest tournaments for the game now. Great news
Just a simple guy, going wherever this journey takes me.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
September 06 2011 22:23 GMT
#138
HoN? Bit of a strange choice, I thought the HoN scene was declining because of DotA 2. I am not saying it shouldn't be considered but with LoL and DotA 2 out it seems an odd choice. I hope it helps HoN maintain it's eSports status.
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
September 06 2011 22:23 GMT
#139
Wow big move from nasl! gl
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
September 06 2011 22:25 GMT
#140
Pretty awesome that they chose to do this, as cool as DotA 2 looks HoN gave me so many good times for the past 2 years I will honestly be happy to see it continue to prosper even with DotA 2 out.
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