EPTThe funny thing is, this is actually hurting the game since there are ppl who simply don't wanna be a part of that kind of community and stay off the games because of that reason.
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
The funny thing is, this is actually hurting the game since there are ppl who simply don't wanna be a part of that kind of community and stay off the games because of that reason. | ||
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On September 07 2011 06:06 Assirra wrote: No matter where you name either LOL or HoN, you will get ppl argue and constantly bash the other side. The funny thing is, this is actually hurting the game since there are ppl who simply don't wanna be a part of that kind of community and stay off the games because of that reason. Agreed...it would be nice if people could unite like the fighting game community does...sad... | ||
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Ruscour
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Axero
United States307 Posts
On September 07 2011 06:07 Shiragaku wrote: Agreed...it would be nice if people could unite like the fighting game community does...sad... Hoping the DotA 2 community improves from past communities of the same genre. I don't think we're ever going to see LoL/HoN/DotA players uniting like other communities though, unfortunately. But, it's a good reason for people new to the games to come to TL. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On September 07 2011 03:52 crms wrote: HoN > LoL but seems silly to add this with dota 2 around the corner. I hope they don't have any sort of exclusive contract that is for too long. HoN is going to be wiped off the earth when Dota 2 is released. it seems silly to test the waters using a popular, existing title? seems sensible to me. dota2's relative success is a gamble, just like any game (except SC2 lol, that was a guarantee), leagues like MLG and NASL adding titles like this will give them some indication of the genre's popularity, and get their staff comfortable with running a moba tournament | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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RumZ
United States956 Posts
On September 07 2011 06:14 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: it seems silly to test the waters using a popular, existing title? seems sensible to me. dota2's relative success is a gamble, just like any game (except SC2 lol, that was a guarantee), leagues like MLG and NASL adding titles like this will give them some indication of the genre's popularity, and get their staff comfortable with running a moba tournament Dota2s relative success is a gamble, but SC2s was guaranteed? I think you're way off on that one. | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
WHY? I mean, yeah I know they want to expand, but why HoN? Why not something more similar to Starcraft like WC3 or something? | ||
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
On September 07 2011 05:06 Doctorbeat wrote: Whilst I'm happy for the players of HoN and the developers, I feel that it HoN's competitive scene doesn't have much of a foot to stand on. I was at Gamescom in Cologne, and the difference between the audience sizes of LoL and HoN were enormous. Where maybe a maximum of 50 people were watching HoN, at least a thousand were watching the mainstage finals, along with at least 300 for the semis/3rd place match. It's a staggering difference, and even DotA2's crowd was multiple sizes bigger than HoN's. It might be a really good competitive game to play, but there are several problems. S2 is even worse of a developer for the competitive scene than Riot, the community is even worse than LoL's (which is already multitudes worse than SC2's community), and it's not a very accessible game for people who want to get into it. Things are not very clear for a first time viewer, and a first time viewer will get easily bored because of it (I did, watched a match at the HoN booth). LoL has a very clear graphical style, which makes everything that happens on screen a bit easier to understand. Well if we're going off pure numbers, TL should probably drop SC2 and become a Call of Duty website. It's way more competitive of a game if we're judging it by how many fans it has. Also commenting on the "graphical styles" of either game is just completely opinion. Just because you've played one a lot and took a glance at another doesn't give you a credible source of saying which one is easier to watch. | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On September 07 2011 06:25 57 Corvette wrote: What the fuck.... WHY? I mean, yeah I know they want to expand, but why HoN? Why not something more similar to Starcraft like WC3 or something? The WC3 scene outside of China is practically dead. SC2 is the only popular RTS right now, while DotA games are really popular right now. | ||
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Rbd
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On September 07 2011 06:21 RumZ wrote: Dota2s relative success is a gamble, but SC2s was guaranteed? I think you're way off on that one. no, no, a relative success within their league, not the game will sell a bazillion copies. context. | ||
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3DGlaDOS
Germany607 Posts
S2 just made such an awesome game, I don't wanna bash LoL. Good step, maybe HoN still can grow after they were forced to make it f2p-ish because of LoL/DOTA2. | ||
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elementz
United States281 Posts
On September 07 2011 05:10 P0ckets wrote: Dumb, IMO, these moba games and it;s current trend of popularity will die off as soon as the money dries up. As a spectator sport it is hard to follow due to it's complexity and due to the multiplayer aspect it is terrible since you miss the majority of what happens unless there is an epicenter of action. which only happens every so often in the game. God most people here talk out of their ass for something they have no Idea about, DotA has been a MOD(yes a MOD not its stand-alone game) for WC3 and gets millions of downloads on playdota.com whenever a new patch was released, with more millions in China that play on private VPN, yet it still hasn't died as competitive esport or game, the attention on it was about as much as it was on BW really none existent because it was so old (China still has a hard on for it like Korea for BW--a DotA team was bought for 6million dollars in China). As LoL success has shown it is a very good genre of game (you like LoL or not people like the genre), money for the tournaments by the companies is coming out of their promotion budget and these companies spend a lot on promotion, a tournament for 1mil is a lot better than the ad I am looking at right now for LoL (yes as I am typing this there is a LoL add on TL--I have my adblock disabled on TL <3), heck blizzard did the same they still to this date sponsor GOMTV for GSL, however SC2 thanks to that was embraced (same for LoL-and HoN on a smaller scale--with tournaments like IEM/ESL DH including them in their LAN), has Riot/S2 helped these companies decide by covering the risks for this investment, yes they have and maybe more than just the "risks" but the genre--I hate calling it MOBA since I am a DotA player  --is here to stay and DotA2 will be the pinnacle and with Riot and Valve throwing promotion money to esports I have nothing to complain about.Valve maybe does the same thing for CS:GO, and puts up a 1mil tournament for it, that will be amazing and Activizion putting a 1mil CoD tourney is also cool, even though I hate CoD and consoles (can't wait for CS:GO !!!!!!!!  the games that can handle the heat will stay as esports other games will disappear as esports after the promotion money is gone, even though it doesn't have to stop, since these games have on going profit model as suppose to buy once model, DotA2 will probably be like TF2, buy to play with hats and later on maybe f2p with more hats (also with steamworks and being able to stream directly on dota2.com with build in functionality in the client for easy stream set up, where valve takes a bit of the pie and pays you for your work as well like justin.tv).Bottom line, DotA has lived on its own without any help from Blizzard/Valve/insertpublisherhere and with the help of a publisher and refined graphics it can blow up even bigger considering it is more social game than SC2, most of the time with my friends we play DotA instead of SC2 because we want to play together and we hate 4v4--any thing other than 1v1 sucks considering the game is balanced around it and everything else is unbalanced. | ||
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Okiesmokie
Canada379 Posts
On September 07 2011 04:12 JinDesu wrote: Because with the addition of HON, it's not longer just a "Star League" I find it pretty sad that even NASL doesn't realise that the "Star" in the Korean Star Leagues means Starcraft. Incontrol was talking about it before and saying how NASL wasn't just going to be an average starcraft league, but a star league instead. I had to facepalm at that. | ||
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CooDu
Australia899 Posts
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WArped
United Kingdom4845 Posts
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TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
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United States7226 Posts
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