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lyrlian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands257 Posts
September 06 2011 23:58 GMT
#161
Why HON instead of LoL? It's like chosing red alert 3 tournament over SC2. LoL is more popular, has more players, has more EVERYTHING!! HoN Must have given NASL a shit ton of money or something.
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AusBox
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia214 Posts
September 06 2011 23:59 GMT
#162
So it's a Starcraft league without Koreans and they add a game that is soon to be replaced.

What the fuck?
Vul
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States685 Posts
September 07 2011 00:00 GMT
#163
On September 07 2011 08:55 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 08:34 Aurdon wrote:
NASL makes strange choices. They should solidify they're SC2 brand before they move into new titles. They had a very shaky season one and season two had so much drama before the season even started. I would hope they smoothed over everything before branching out.

Then to choose HoN(which doesn't have the numbers or hype that LoL or Dota2) is a questionable choice for your next title.

I don't understand their motivations for this.

There hasn't been a LoL tournament not sponsored by Riot and I'm sure you're aware of what happened at Dreamhack (or was it Gamescom, I forget now) and MLG. HoN's numbers are increasing, it's getting added to MLG and IPL, and it's where every decent player (at least in NA) is playing right now.

Dota2 isn't a factor because it isn't released. HoN is the best choice right now.


It's a promotional title, which means that the HoN people are paying NASL to do this. I would assume that's their motivation.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 00:04:20
September 07 2011 00:01 GMT
#164
On September 07 2011 08:58 lyrlian wrote:
Why HON instead of LoL? It's like chosing red alert 3 tournament over SC2. LoL is more popular, has more players, has more EVERYTHING!! HoN Must have given NASL a shit ton of money or something.


No, that's not what it's like at all. LoL doesn't have everything, unless you really think popularity is everything.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
September 07 2011 00:10 GMT
#165
I thought this was old news? I heard about it ages ago O.O. Either way this is just paving the way for Dota 2 following outside of china >:D. All for it :D
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
September 07 2011 00:19 GMT
#166
A "Starleague" airing a boring non-spectator-sport game called heroes of newerth? Heroes of Newerth American Starleague? What is this nonsense?
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
September 07 2011 00:22 GMT
#167
I don't see how it's hard to comprehend that NASL added hon because S2 is paying for it...MLG added LoL because Riot paid them more than S2 for the spot too. It has nothing to do with what the better game is or which game takes more skill or has more skilled players.

We're just seeing more of them at tournaments now because they have to worry about losing market share to dota2 as well as the fact that Riot has been so much more successful business wise that they can basically go for the kill on hon.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
September 07 2011 00:23 GMT
#168
On September 07 2011 09:19 MichaelDonovan wrote:
A "Starleague" airing a boring non-spectator-sport game called heroes of newerth? Heroes of Newerth American Starleague? What is this nonsense?

I dunno, personally I enjoy watching HoN more than SC2 much of the time. I think it's a great fit for an eSport, and hyped as I was for DotA 2, I went right back to playing/watching HoN along w/ SC2.
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Ignight
Profile Joined April 2011
United States14 Posts
September 07 2011 00:25 GMT
#169
It's all about money.
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TerraTron
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada137 Posts
September 07 2011 00:26 GMT
#170
On September 07 2011 09:23 Pokebunny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 09:19 MichaelDonovan wrote:
A "Starleague" airing a boring non-spectator-sport game called heroes of newerth? Heroes of Newerth American Starleague? What is this nonsense?

I dunno, personally I enjoy watching HoN more than SC2 much of the time. I think it's a great fit for an eSport, and hyped as I was for DotA 2, I went right back to playing/watching HoN along w/ SC2.


I agree, DotA 2 seems to be a worse spectator sport when I was watching the stream for the tourny, didnt feel interesting even though I knew the heroes and what they did from Dota1. I don't see people saying it should incorporate LoL though, as I see lots of Sc2 players enjoying HoN more then LoL.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
September 07 2011 00:33 GMT
#171
So, I'm not very into the MOBA scene, but which one has the better future in ESPORTS? HoN? DotA 2? LoL? From what I've seen, the latter 2 draws in a lot of viewers, but I have no clue on HoN. Which do you think has the brightest future, and is it possible for all 3 or even 2 to co-exist without dividing the viewers and being in direct competition?
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Vonstroke
Profile Joined November 2010
5 Posts
September 07 2011 00:38 GMT
#172
On September 07 2011 09:33 Telcontar wrote:
So, I'm not very into the MOBA scene, but which one has the better future in ESPORTS? HoN? DotA 2? LoL? From what I've seen, the latter 2 draws in a lot of viewers, but I have no clue on HoN. Which do you think has the brightest future, and is it possible for all 3 or even 2 to co-exist without dividing the viewers and being in direct competition?


The only game that has a real future in eSports is Dota 2. Reason being is that Dota 2 champions will always be considered to have more skill than the top LoL team. Case closed.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 07 2011 00:44 GMT
#173
Why do these threads always make my head hurt?

Every other post is a HoN v. DotA v. LoL fanboy flame post regardless of how subtle they try to be.

Kinda like the post above me.

This is good news for S2 and HoN. I've played HoN during beta and it was a pretty fun game. Although whether or not this is a smart long-term move by NASL will have to be seen. A lot of people are already saying that DotA2 will spell the end for HoN because the two games are too similar. Whether or not that's true will be seen in the next year, but good luck to NASL I suppose.
ReturnStroke
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States801 Posts
September 07 2011 00:56 GMT
#174
I didn't even know they were looking for other games, I guess the MOBA popularity can't be ignored.
Tarias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands480 Posts
September 07 2011 00:58 GMT
#175
I think this is a great! I haven't played HoN in ages, but I remember the fact that it's a little more fast-paced and gank oriented made it fun to watch back in the day
Go big, or go home!
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
September 07 2011 01:07 GMT
#176
On September 07 2011 03:48 Risen wrote:
Holy shit that's crazy :O

Still, I hope they swap from hon to dota2 when it comes out.


This. I feel like HoN is on its last leg. I'm anticipating a lot of HoN players switching to dota 2 when it comes out, and even some LoL players. I don't see much of a future for hon
=)=
kslghost
Profile Joined June 2011
246 Posts
September 07 2011 01:15 GMT
#177
Comparing the competitive viability of games by its popularity is flawed at best. The Sims is like the second most popular PC title, do you think because of that they should start having competitions? I talked to a friend who had never heard of HoN but played LoL - why are they playing it? Because it's free and it's casual.

Anyways, having 40k go to a tourney versus some crappy online ads is something we should support in eSports.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
September 07 2011 01:21 GMT
#178
On September 07 2011 08:34 Aurdon wrote:
NASL makes strange choices. They should solidify they're SC2 brand before they move into new titles. They had a very shaky season one and season two had so much drama before the season even started. I would hope they smoothed over everything before branching out.

Then to choose HoN(which doesn't have the numbers or hype that LoL or Dota2) is a questionable choice for your next title.

I don't understand their motivations for this.


Well, even though LoL is more popular, HoN is more skill-based, at least in comparison to Dota. Dota2 is simply not out yet, and we don't know WHEN it will be, so you can't really jump on it until valve goes with the official release, OR if they had a contract with valve bla bla, too complicated IMO.

So between Dota(1), LoL and HoN, HoN seems like the appropriate choice, due to the fact that it's a new-er game than dota, and more competitive than LoL.

And yes, I played LoL as well. It's good, but it's the minor differences that make it more newb-friendly that also make it more e-sports unworthy.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
September 07 2011 01:28 GMT
#179
On September 07 2011 08:58 lyrlian wrote:
Why HON instead of LoL? It's like chosing red alert 3 tournament over SC2. LoL is more popular, has more players, has more EVERYTHING!! HoN Must have given NASL a shit ton of money or something.


Why choose SC2 over Call of Duty? CoD is more popular, has more players, and has more EVERYTHING! NASL should probably drop SC2 in favor of CoD as well because it's obviously way better of a game.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
September 07 2011 01:51 GMT
#180
This is why they chose StarLeague instead of Starcraft League. They kept in mind for future games beyond Starcraft.
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