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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
January 10 2015 02:29 GMT
#17101
Fuck this game. Got Gold Nova 3 with a ~10 game win streak, draw one game, lose one (just now, nobody was using mic at all, still close game) and I get deranked again. This matchmaking system needs a fucking sanity check.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 03:17:41
January 10 2015 03:17 GMT
#17102
http://www.hltv.org/news/13943-myrevenge-to-sue-ex-team

Is it actually illegal to throw matches? o_O imo I'd be all up for teams suing matchfixers.
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 10 2015 03:20 GMT
#17103
I'm no expert on german laws but if the organization can win in court, it'll set a good precedent for the rest of possible thrown matches
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
January 10 2015 03:26 GMT
#17104
What's an easy way to boost stattrak kills?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
January 10 2015 03:29 GMT
#17105
Go to an achievement/idle server and start poppin' heads.
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way2mash4u
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany183 Posts
January 10 2015 03:43 GMT
#17106
On January 10 2015 11:29 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Fuck this game. Got Gold Nova 3 with a ~10 game win streak, draw one game, lose one (just now, nobody was using mic at all, still close game) and I get deranked again. This matchmaking system needs a fucking sanity check.


I'm on a 11-2-0 streak on SEM. Gonna leave them bitches behind me. Fuck sake.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 03:53:06
January 10 2015 03:52 GMT
#17107
Ranking system seems perfectly logical to me in that regard.

If the ELO cut for GN3 is 1500 and you drew one then lost one and suddenly fell down to 1490, obviously you'd derank. Someone linked an article about it like a month ago that went into quite a bit of detail.
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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
January 10 2015 03:59 GMT
#17108
On January 10 2015 12:52 Souma wrote:
Ranking system seems perfectly logical to me in that regard.

If the ELO cut for GN3 is 1500 and you drew one then lost one and suddenly fell down to 1490, obviously you'd derank. Someone linked an article about it like a month ago that went into quite a bit of detail.


Yeah but having to go on a 10-game win streak to rank up, then draw one, lose on close game to derank is just BS. It's demotivational and absolutely unfair. If it was a clear ELO system like that, then why do I have to win so much more to rank up. I just won a game, does it rank me up again? Nope.

Hell I guess I just shouldn't soloqueue anymore, since I'm on EU which is suicide, nothing but russian-speaking trolls...
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
January 10 2015 04:08 GMT
#17109
Because they take other factors like round wins/losses and MVPs into account as well. If you won 10 games in a row but they were mostly close then that's why it took forever.
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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
January 10 2015 04:15 GMT
#17110
They weren't, some of them were 16-0 sweeps and I was top-fragging in a good chunk of them. I think the matchmaking/promotion algorithm is broken for lower level of play (there have been several DMG players reporting in on /r/GlobalOffensive that they found it extremely hard to break out of silver on smurf accounts despite obviously dominating for example) but of course I could just as well learn to play better, try harder and carry more.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 10 2015 04:20 GMT
#17111
my take is that don't play for the rank, play for the improvment of skills. Besides, if you want to play real csgo, matchmaking is a terrible place to play.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
January 10 2015 04:20 GMT
#17112
Eh, me and some others I know have the opposite problem. Can't keep a smurf low rank at all.
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NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 04:26:09
January 10 2015 04:25 GMT
#17113
On January 10 2015 13:20 amazingxkcd wrote:
my take is that don't play for the rank, play for the improvment of skills. Besides, if you want to play real csgo, matchmaking is a terrible place to play.


Yeah that's a good attitude to have. Will adopt it!

BTW I wonder how much of an effect the common language on NA has in regards to the difficulty playing on the server. I know you can have Mexicans/Brazilians etc. not speaking English on NA but on EU it's literally a hell hole atm. As I said, nobody communicates even if they have mics because everybody speaks a different language. When I look at American streamers it always seems so much nicer, you can still have douchebags but at least you can talk to them. Whenever I queue I just get Russians over and over again.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
January 10 2015 04:32 GMT
#17114
The only time I get people who don't speak English is when I queue really late and all the Brazilians come out to roost.

Otherwise... haven't had an issue with it lately, so that's pretty cool.
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 10 2015 04:36 GMT
#17115
Matchmaking isnt bad on NA servers (besides the constant poor performance of servers) as everyone speaks english. there's rarely any mexicans/brazilians (i only met like 2 who were terrible aha) since they're terrible players in general. But if you are playing with the intent to get a rank up so that you can improve, that's the wrong attitude as you don't actually learn anything. If you want to rank up, you first need to get better where you so that your improvements in skills will naturally give you the rank ups. It's how i went from being nova 2 all the way to badge over the course of a couple of months. I first get better where i am, then i'll rank up as i am ready for the next tier of rank(s).

Also, when I solo queue in matchmaking, my focus is almost never to win the game, it's to work on things that i notice from my scrims/matches that i need to work on (for example, i need to work on staying alive when i hold a place solo or at least get really good at delaying pushing Ts so that my team can rotate). This kind of things you can do in matchmaking since you don't need anyone to help you out and you can use the matchmaking game to also practice smokes and flashes, etc. It's why I almost never get mad at terrible players trolls because it's matchmaking, there's no reward or benefit of having a special rank (also explains why I play matchmaking really loosely since i'm not worried about others but rather what i'm doing and what i need to work on). Then, with whatever i worked on, i can bring it to my team practices and can refine it further for when it matters.

All of the above advice works if you find a team to join or start one, and start playing in leagues (cevo/esea open divisions, etc). Also, if you feel burnt or frustrated from CSGO, just take a break. No need to destroy your love of the game for something as silly as stress of a matchmaking game (No CSGO leagues have a rank requirement and no one cares about matchmaking ranks, but rather your actual skills and what you bring to the table)
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
NihiLStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 04:45:57
January 10 2015 04:45 GMT
#17116
That makes a lot of sense. Looking at it this way, I really need to find a team to play with (I know several teams and play with them occasionally but none of them are 'competitive') and I don't really know why I expected to do well when solo-queueing at 5 in the morning. Of course at this time, the Russians are in full force on EU (and I'm not exactly at the peak of my skill either) :p
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 10 2015 04:47 GMT
#17117
Just pug a lot onj cevo/esea/faceit, build up a good RWS/EFF score then start posting in recruitment forums. You'll find a good team sooner or later
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
January 10 2015 05:54 GMT
#17118
On January 10 2015 11:29 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Fuck this game. Got Gold Nova 3 with a ~10 game win streak, draw one game, lose one (just now, nobody was using mic at all, still close game) and I get deranked again. This matchmaking system needs a fucking sanity check.


I've lost about 10 in a row and still GN2. Man deranking is a bitch.
Feel free to add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagnusAskeland/
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 06:56:10
January 10 2015 06:26 GMT
#17119
You people need to stop whining about ranking and deranking, what the fuck does the rank matter? What should matter is the matchmaking system's ability to put you in games that are around your level, and it fails fucking miserably at that. 80%+ of my games are complete stomps one way or the other. The losing team has on average 4-5 rounds. It's pathetic. At least 1-3 players per game are smurfs who should obviously be a few ranks above us.

When I derank it doesn't matter because either it's normalizing or you'll bitchslap most of the next few teams you'll play against and at some point you'll get smashed 16-2 and then you'll win 16-4 and none of it makes any god damn sense.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
January 10 2015 11:46 GMT
#17120
On January 10 2015 15:26 Djzapz wrote:
You people need to stop whining about ranking and deranking, what the fuck does the rank matter? What should matter is the matchmaking system's ability to put you in games that are around your level, and it fails fucking miserably at that. 80%+ of my games are complete stomps one way or the other. The losing team has on average 4-5 rounds. It's pathetic. At least 1-3 players per game are smurfs who should obviously be a few ranks above us.

When I derank it doesn't matter because either it's normalizing or you'll bitchslap most of the next few teams you'll play against and at some point you'll get smashed 16-2 and then you'll win 16-4 and none of it makes any god damn sense.


I've always had a pretty good experience solo queuing... Had maybe one cheater in 65 games...
Very few stomps, a LOOOOT of 16-13 or 16-14 even 15-15
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